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Forum Administrator 12/21/2020 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are FOMOing into GBTC right now. GBTC is selling at quite a premium to BTC right now. It is a great way for people who are unwilling/unable to grasp how to use a crypto exchange, but GBTC also can crash harder. <---- Means that is you are patient, and have a substantial pair, good profits are to be had. Not seeing the same FOMOing into BTC on the crypto exchanges. Make certain to place stops in profit on anything you have in the markets right now. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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User ID: 76112615 United States 12/21/2020 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone remember the 12 month forbearance??? Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT It ends in March....if you can't prove you have a job and can pay 3 consecutive months of mortgage millions of foreclosures start.....and nothing is going to stop it... Are they going to give another 12 months??? Banks will be fucked they keep this shit up..... Enjoy it while it lasts....oh BTW do not forget year end sales.....investors taking profits while it's good.... Thought they stopped end of dec? |
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midijeep
User ID: 77765720 United States 12/21/2020 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at home prices. Home values are through the roof. I live in a poor & economically depressed ghost town compared to the rest of the country and my home value has doubled in the last 5 years. Most of that value increase has occurred over the last 2 years. It’s a sweeping generalization to say “the market” is crashing. Housing market, if it’s any reflection on anything, sure as shit isn’t crashing. Quoting: Starrycard My grandmother made a fortune (in the millions) in the stock market in the late 1940’s all the way up until the 2000’s not by selling everything off at the hint of social unrest, but by diversifying her stocks and bonds and investing in things that gather the most interest and hanging on tight through the rough times. Hold onto hard assets. Pinch pennies and drive simple, non-flashy but well-built cars. Learn a skilled trade. Neither of my grandparents ever went to college or had anything more than blue collar factory-type jobs and now that they’re both gone, the entire family-children and grandchildren have a comfortable future for life because of not bailing from the financial markets out of fear. You’re a slave, so if you can find a way to hang on and function within their market system and maybe have a little success, by all means. The elite and all major corporations basically shape our social and political policies through well-funded think tanks with the brightest minds that then decide what propaganda to socially influence us in order to better control and enslave us. Money is worshipped like god here, it’s it’s own religion. A slave is best when it has no mother, no child, no intimate heart connection with anything but the superficial self and the screen. They survive off of our heavily taxed labor, so crashing markets would also crash their system of control in many cases. This is their economy and their agendas so crashing anything would really only hurt them. We already are fully doomed and enslaved by willingly paying them 35% tax on all of our income (labor.) Think back to the 90’s, do you remember there being this many gay little kids and high schoolers? I remember the 90’s and we had maybe 2-3 gays in our entire high school. Little kids, it was unheard of. That is not a normal progression of things-it’s the result of social programming (log into online banking and look at the couples in ALL of the ads) not only to depopulate us but to destroy our families and any chance we have of generational wealth and success. They are designing the perfect slave. Think about the words “human rights” and how they’ve been perverted to only mean things like the right to kill your unborn child, the right to replace entire ethnic populations, the right to prostitute yourself, the right to be a drug addict. It’s all designed to make the perfect slave. Sorry about the rant but they aren’t going to hurt themselves and their legacies just to harm us little guys. They can’t control us if they can’t make money off of us. Dude, they over value your property to collect more taxes. It's a ruse! Doesn't matter what country you live in, it is a ploy to collect taxes and take control of your property. You really don't own your property. Pay off your property in full and then not pay your taxes and see what happens. Last Edited by midijeep on 12/21/2020 12:44 PM God comes First |
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User ID: 78131498 United States 12/21/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... Not a chance. I bought some cheap delta 5 puts on S&P at $3000. Could be the lotto ticket of my lifetime. But yeah, market internals say a major crash is imminent. The put/call ratio is at the lowest level EVER. But who knows for sure? Maybe the ridiculous inflation caused by tossing trillions around like candy will outpace the crash? Either way, the spending power of everyone not "in" on the scam is about to be decimated. Last Edited by Depluribus Unum on 12/21/2020 12:48 PM From many, covfefe |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77662986 United States 12/21/2020 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are FOMOing into GBTC right now. GBTC is selling at quite a premium to BTC right now. It is a great way for people who are unwilling/unable to grasp how to use a crypto exchange, but GBTC also can crash harder. <---- Means that is you are patient, and have a substantial pair, good profits are to be had. Not seeing the same FOMOing into BTC on the crypto exchanges. Make certain to place stops in profit on anything you have in the markets right now. Thank you LJS, I love my GBTC stock, all thanks to GLP. Between GBTC and FCEL I don't know which one I like better, again all thanks to you guys. |
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Truth be known
Saul Good User ID: 79449831 United States 12/21/2020 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't sell when it's crashing, buy more! There'll be some great deals at low low prices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78067774 Bingo. If you want to succeed, you do the opposite of the masses. If everyone runs from the Dow, I’ll be running to it. But what if it doesn't come back up ? Theres a reason zuckerburg just sold off millions upon millions in his Facebook stock,.. Then the music stops and you better hope you have a chair. Other than that scenario, money will have worth. There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway |
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Saul Good User ID: 79449831 United States 12/21/2020 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't sell when it's crashing, buy more! There'll be some great deals at low low prices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78067774 Bingo. If you want to succeed, you do the opposite of the masses. If everyone runs from the Dow, I’ll be running to it. “Be fearful when others are greedy. Be greedy when others are fearful.” -- Warren Buffett “The time of maximum pessimism is the best time to buy and the time of maximum optimism is the best time to sell” -- John Templeton Absolutely love it! There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway |
JohnnyBravo123
User ID: 75669337 United States 12/21/2020 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just going to say I believe we have a little while before the market goes down. IMO, based on how it looks, we have across the board asset inflation. Also, IMO, it is because the dollar is weak and is getting weaker, the interest rate to 0%, and the massive creation of dollar supply. The relative strength of the dollar has dropped around a 12% since March. The banks are on a free ride for the next two years with the 0% rate to borrow. The M2 from DEC 2019 to DEC 2020 has increased by 26%. If the dollar weakens assets prices go up in relative terms. If the Interest rate goes down asset prices go up in relative terms. If the money supply increases asset prices go up in relative terms. Every time they create dollars the dollars existing get diluted so what you have saved up in dollars theoretically becomes less valuable. The increase in supply has just been absurd. I do agree it is only a matter of time before this pops; but I do think we are there yet. I initially thought based on patterns that (around 4 months ago) we had until Feb-Mar. Though this 0%, stock buybacks, and the M2 changes... I am not sure anymore. What I do know is, and I hate to bring politics in this IF POTUS, House, and Senate all turn Blue... we are all fucked in the long term. That said if you believe it is going to happen you might want to look into getting some puts in certain stocks and calls in others. Example.. Biden appointing Michael McCabe to the EPA!!! What a fucking joke. McCabe is essentially a lobbyist for the chemical industry. He more or less represented DuPont during their PFOA contamination. (If you are not familiar look it up it is pretty interesting. They also made a movie about it called Dark Waters.) Now from appointment to date DuPont stock has gone up 11% in 30 days. The above is not investment advice it's just my views and opinions on what is going on with the markets as a whole. MSM said hold my beer and watch this.... MS America drank the beer and did not watch... and here we are. |
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User ID: 73861664 United States 12/21/2020 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... lololololololololololololooololololololololololololoolol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52568260 United States 12/21/2020 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... It will crash because of a lack of trust in Biden's business abilities, like what happened with Obama. The stock market soared with Trump because of people's confidence in Trump's business abilities. Trump protected America because of his love for his progeny. Biden has no love for his progeny, which he abused and drove to drug addictions, and he will do the same for all Americans. Get ready for depression and mass drug abuse. Dark days are ahead for most city dwellers. "Let the sin begin!" |
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Saul Good User ID: 79449831 United States 12/21/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just going to say I believe we have a little while before the market goes down. IMO, based on how it looks, we have across the board asset inflation. Quoting: JohnnyBravo123 Also, IMO, it is because the dollar is weak and is getting weaker, the interest rate to 0%, and the massive creation of dollar supply. The relative strength of the dollar has dropped around a 12% since March. The banks are on a free ride for the next two years with the 0% rate to borrow. The M2 from DEC 2019 to DEC 2020 has increased by 26%. If the dollar weakens assets prices go up in relative terms. If the Interest rate goes down asset prices go up in relative terms. If the money supply increases asset prices go up in relative terms. Every time they create dollars the dollars existing get diluted so what you have saved up in dollars theoretically becomes less valuable. The increase in supply has just been absurd. I do agree it is only a matter of time before this pops; but I do think we are there yet. I initially thought based on patterns that (around 4 months ago) we had until Feb-Mar. Though this 0%, stock buybacks, and the M2 changes... I am not sure anymore. What I do know is, and I hate to bring politics in this IF POTUS, House, and Senate all turn Blue... we are all fucked in the long term. That said if you believe it is going to happen you might want to look into getting some puts in certain stocks and calls in others. Example.. Biden appointing Michael McCabe to the EPA!!! What a fucking joke. McCabe is essentially a lobbyist for the chemical industry. He more or less represented DuPont during their PFOA contamination. (If you are not familiar look it up it is pretty interesting. They also made a movie about it called Dark Waters.) Now from appointment to date DuPont stock has gone up 11% in 30 days. The above is not investment advice it's just my views and opinions on what is going on with the markets as a whole. Great analysis. One main factor that’s never been seen before. The great conjunction of technology, free data and a pandemic. Kids now have trading accounts buying fractions of a share. Out of work masses trying to hedge savings by investing in dividend paying stocks. Entire factions that have been barred entry into the market due to physical location, government bans, culture, education and economic levels. I could see a future where many millions will make a living in working for the markets. If only we can change the legal definition of a corporation and give them the same responsibilities as any human has. There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 12/21/2020 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... Markets arent going to tank because of that, they are tanking because long term lockdowns are now happening in lots of places and its killing businesses and supply chains. Widespread business closures, unemployment, and loan defaults are on the immediate horizon. Has zero to do with election fraud or other such bullshit. |
Ken is my real name
User ID: 23645277 United States 12/21/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... Sell? No friggin way I'm buying TSNT dips to add to my pile when I Can! Ken My personal thoughts & posts are mine alone. I Love God, Jesus, good people, and the U.S.A. the way the Framers signed the Constitution and Bill of Rights. In my real world life I don't have a problem with standing up to those with solid evidence of corruption from either side, of any issue or place. Many are they in this world that need to be rooted out. That makes me a target to be destroyed by very powerful people, I understand this. At some point we have to stand up for what is right before God. I have done this, lived this way, and will continue to do so till they finish me off or I croak of natural causes. |
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Saul Good User ID: 79449831 United States 12/21/2020 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... It will crash because of a lack of trust in Biden's business abilities, like what happened with Obama. The stock market soared with Trump because of people's confidence in Trump's business abilities. Trump protected America because of his love for his progeny. Biden has no love for his progeny, which he abused and drove to drug addictions, and he will do the same for all Americans. Get ready for depression and mass drug abuse. Dark days are ahead for most city dwellers. "Let the sin begin!" Yes and no. The markets tend to do well when congress is divided. As long as the federal lawmakers have their attention diverted, the kids will play. That’s why it’s so important that the Georgia senate race goes to the GOP. It’s not so much Trump, as he used his microphone to play the market for his buddies. He knew at the beginning of his administration that the dollar was strong. So he said it was TOO STRONG and did what he could do to get it back from 101% to 97% which actually makes yours mine worth less but helped our allies buy more weapons from us. He’s shrewd in that sense for sure. That and destroying Obama’s legacy on financial reform. Throw in lower corporate tax rate and boom! It’ll explode. Didn’t take a genius. But that explosion has and will have consequences like anything else that goes too fast. As far as cities go, a lot are already dark and filled with drug abuse. There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79792333 Ireland 12/21/2020 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... CHINA CHINA CHINA!!! i am glad you are here, the chinese pooped in the hall |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79792333 Ireland 12/21/2020 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference.... Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT Remember the Biden-China news??? Helping Biden STEAL the election???? [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military.... It is going to be biblical..... so now you are giving financial advice.... based on the 1-60 losses the trump legal team has in trying to overturn the election smart move i am sure the election will be overturned any day now....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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JohnnyBravo123
User ID: 75669337 United States 12/21/2020 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great analysis. One main factor that’s never been seen before. The great conjunction of technology, free data and a pandemic. Kids now have trading accounts buying fractions of a share. Out of work masses trying to hedge savings by investing in dividend paying stocks. Entire factions that have been barred entry into the market due to physical location, government bans, culture, education and economic levels. I could see a future where many millions will make a living in working for the markets. If only we can change the legal definition of a corporation and give them the same responsibilities as any human has. Quoting: Truth be known I have to agree with you about the higher number of individuals actively participating in the market. When you have $0 upfront trade costs and can trade 1 share or less at a time... A few cents extra does not matter to the person buying in low quantity but the block trades from before it did matter. That will artificially increase the price over time. The market is more liquid because of those participants and despite popular belief, the more liquid a market is the more volatility it will experience when demand changes. From crowded trades to disregard of fundamentals, to trend following, to extremely exacerbated price changes with liquidity changes. Also, IMO as far as asset prices the amount of assets on margin accounts does not help nor does the derivative market. As far as corporations I am not sure what you mean. MSM said hold my beer and watch this.... MS America drank the beer and did not watch... and here we are. |
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