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a User ID: 307256 Slovenia 10/05/2007 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The document, known as the Chinon parchment, reveals that the Templars had an initiation ceremony which involved "spitting on the cross", "denying Jesus" and kissing the lower back, navel and mouth of the man proposing them. Quoting: cabaretvolterrorThe Templars explained to Pope Clement that the initiation mimicked the humiliation that knights could suffer if they fell into the hands of the Saracens, while the kissing ceremony was a sign of their total obedience. The Pope concluded that the entrance ritual was not truly blasphemous, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 307580 Australia 10/05/2007 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy." [The Lost Keys To Freemasonry, Manly P. Hall, published by the Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, 1976, p. 48; Emphasis added] "To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.) Well Well Well Pope 111, The FALSE PROPHET, Rat Nazi Zinger, gives his blessings to Lucifer's boys.. i think i am gunna fucken PUKE |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 307580 Australia 10/05/2007 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "And if one is to believe what the Bible does tell us, (whether partial or not), then BILLIONs will die around the WORLD, not just IRAQ. And from what the PTB's have done and planned, it seems the Bible will not be far off the mark. Now next question, is it the PTB's rigging world events to MATCH Bible prophecy, or is it just happening that way?" "Read about ALBERT PIKE, (* 33rd degree Satan worshiping freemason *last five words are added by me ), and his statements on a one world government, and the NEEDED three world wars for the Illuminated ones to take control, the THIRD world war, (yet to become) is to, according to ol ALBERT, to ELIMINATE the JEWISH AND ARAB issue once and for all.. food for thought folks.. see where we are, and what is going down... ol ALBERT seems to be spot on. His words of the aftermath reflect what the Bible tells us also. The survivors of the third world war WILL WISE UP AND BEGIN TO WORSHIP LUCIFER, or they will be eliminated. ( killed, murdered, beheaded, etc.) Does this NOT sound like Revelation, or Apocalypse?" "Up to you all, I do not try to make one believe what I believe. Nor do I, discount the entire Bible because of some historical oddities, or adgendas by a King in England, or wherever. It STILL has truths within it. One will get an answer to prayer if it is prayed in earnest, with the right intentions. you might NOT like the answer you get though..lol. I do believe that God somehow protected the CORE MESSAGE He intended to get out to the people in His book, or is it King James book? LOL" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 281673 United States 10/05/2007 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Snip Quoting: Anonymous Coward 307580"And if one is to believe what the Bible does tell us, (whether partial or not), then BILLIONs will die around the WORLD, not just IRAQ. And from what the PTB's have done and planned, it seems the Bible will not be far off the mark. Now next question, is it the PTB's rigging world events to MATCH Bible prophecy, or is it just happening that way?" "Read about ALBERT PIKE, (* 33rd degree Satan worshiping freemason *last five words are added by me ), and his statements on a one world government, and the NEEDED three world wars for the Illuminated ones to take control, the THIRD world war, (yet to become) is to, according to ol ALBERT, to ELIMINATE the JEWISH AND ARAB issue once and for all.. food for thought folks.. see where we are, and what is going down... ol ALBERT seems to be spot on. His words of the aftermath reflect what the Bible tells us also. The survivors of the third world war WILL WISE UP AND BEGIN TO WORSHIP LUCIFER, or they will be eliminated. ( killed, murdered, beheaded, etc.) Does this NOT sound like Revelation, or Apocalypse?" "Up to you all, I do not try to make one believe what I believe. Nor do I, discount the entire Bible because of some historical oddities, or adgendas by a King in England, or wherever. It STILL has truths within it. One will get an answer to prayer if it is prayed in earnest, with the right intentions. you might NOT like the answer you get though..lol. I do believe that God somehow protected the CORE MESSAGE He intended to get out to the people in His book, or is it King James book? LOL" LOL this release has NOTHING to do with organized religion and it's structure, and has everything to do with trying to keep control over, and seem OK with, what is about to happen to them. They just tried to get in there first so as not to seem off guard in November. GOD never is and never was about ANY ONE organized religion...when those fall, PEACE can happen....and the old men of power will no longer be able to control us with FEAR. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 308223 United States 10/05/2007 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that matters had gone so far, the personal safety of King Philip the Fair lay in the utter destruction of the Knights Templar. In May 1308, he had such control of the Church that the Pope withdrew his suspension of the powers of the Inquisition in France and ordered an examination into all charges against the Templars. Knights were thrown into damp cells and cold dungeons where many died from exposure. Hundreds of them were tortured, and many confessed guilt to escape the rack. Sixty-seven were burned at the stake in France. A nightmare of horror spread over Europe. By now, Jacques DeMolay was almost 70 years old. Wrecked by a lifetime of battles and hardships, brokenhearted at what seemed to him a monstrous ingratitude on the part of his countrymen, betrayed by King Philip and Pope Clement V, both of whom he had considered to be friends, he was in no condition to endure the dungeon and torture chamber. DeMolay was brought before several royal and papal commissions and urged to renounce the Order. On March 2, 1310, he demanded a trial by Clement himself, arguing that since the Templars were under the Pope’s own care, the Pope alone had the right to try them. It was his only defense. In April 1311, Pope Clement, now completely defeated in any effort he may have made to defend the Order, came into a formal agreement with Philip and issued an official announcement, a Papal Bull, condemning the Templars. On April 3, 1312, with Philip sitting at his right, Pope Clement preached a sermon condemning the Order. That same month, he issued an order transferring Templar property into other hands. A great portion went to the various sovereigns, with Philip claiming the lion’s share. The Order was destroyed, its houses were closed, its land was distributed, and its treasuries were expropriated. DeMolay Becomes A Martyr On December 22, 1313, more than six years after the first arrest of the Knights Templar, Pope Clement commissioned a number of judges to determine the fate of DeMolay and three of his knights: Godfrey de Goneville, Guy of Auvergne, and Hughes de Peralde. These commissioners of doom built a public platform and a pulpit in front of the cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris. Surrounded by a throng of people, the four men were brought out early on the morning of March 11, 1314. A bishop preached a long, rambling sermon about the great things happening in that day and age, and then the commissioners read a number of documents, among them a report of DeMolay’s interrogation six years before in which he made a forced confession under torture. The commissioners proclaimed the men’s sentence: life in prison. Two of the knights accepted their sentence without question, but not Jacques DeMolay who, after hearing his false confession, stood and denounced it along with the other charges against the Knights Templar. Guy of Auvergne stood with him. According to the legal customs of the day, this was a retraction of confession and punishable by death. Word was immediately sent to Philip, and, ignoring all due process of law, he ordered the two prisoners burned at the stake that very evening on the small island of Seine. At sunset, DeMolay and Guy were taken to the stake. The accounts of what happened next are confusing, but every detail seems to confirm that DeMolay was firm and brave in his final hour. When the soldiers came to tie his hands, he said in a strong, loud, and clear voice: “Gentlemen, let me join my hands a little and make my prayer to God. It is truly time for it, for I am going to die immediately. God knows that I have not deserved my torture. Misfortune will soon come to those who have condemned us. God will avenge our death upon our enemies. I die with that conviction. For you, gentlemen, turn, I pray you, my face toward the Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus Christ.” “Then,” said Godfrey de Paris, the poet, a witness of the scene, “they granted him his request, and death took him so sweetly in that attitude, so that all marvelled at it.” Within the year, Pope Clement V died, abandoned by his own friends. Indeed, his body lay unburied for some time. Shortly thereafter, as if pursued by the same furies, Philip died a violent death. His three brothers also died soon thereafter, thus ending the branch of Philip’s family on the French dynasty. Historians differ violently upon the validity of the charges against the Knights Templar of medieval Europe. The most thorough examination was made by American historian Henry Charles Lea who concluded that, while a few individual Templars may have been guilty of crime or theft, the Order itself was guiltless. And though Jacques DeMolay may have weakened under torture and made a false confession, his deep conviction of his innocence strengthened him at the stake, allowing the old warrior to die like the hero he truly was. The charges of murder and theft, not to mention those of witchcraft and devil worship, made against the Knights Templars of yesteryear should remind Freemasons of today that the forces of falsehood and greed are never far away. Indeed, much of those evil rumors and charges made against DeMolay and his knights should ring familiar in the ear of the thoughtful Freemason. To counteract such charges today, we should open our Lodges, Temples, and other Masonic buildings and allow modern society to witness our unselfish deeds for the benefit of others. Only by so doing, can we prevent another day of infamy, one that occurred almost 1,000 years ago, when Jacques DeMolay, Martyr of Masonic chivalry and namesake of the International Order of DeMolay for young men, perished amid the flames.{" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 308244 United Kingdom 10/05/2007 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10/13 Anniversary Symbolism -------------------------------- 10/13/2007 = 700th Anniversary Of The Destruction Of The Knights Templar on October 13th, 1307. The successors of the Knights Templar are the Freemasons and the U.S. was founded by the Freemasons. Numerology ----------------- 10/13/2007 = 1+0+1+3+2+0+0+7 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5 9/11/2001 = 9+1+1+2+0+0+1 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5 Time Windows -------------------- 10/13/2007 is 2222 Days after 9/11/2001 2222 = 1111 + 1111 --> 11:11 & 11:11 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 522 United States 10/05/2007 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A spokesman for Militi Templi Scotia, the Scottish Knights Templar admitted to the Sunday Post, 'We are currently involved in an attempt to remove control of the holy sites from the Israeli government. We believe they should be administered by the United Nations and are working with the UN and NATO to achieve that goal.'" *who is set to rule over Jerusalem by UN mandate? the pope~ this the beginning, well contituation of a big story. |
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User ID: 299977 United Kingdom 10/05/2007 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Originally Jerusalem was meant to be looked after by the UN and to be honest if it is to ever become a holy city it does require heritage status that is taken seriously. As far as the Vatican and this paper, my soul tells me something bigger is coming and this is to prepare the way..... i love satan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 284299 United States 10/05/2007 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy." [The Lost Keys To Freemasonry, Manly P. Hall, published by the Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, 1976, p. 48; Emphasis added] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 307580"To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.) Well Well Well Pope 111, The FALSE PROPHET, Rat Nazi Zinger, gives his blessings to Lucifer's boys.. i think i am gunna fucken PUKE Are there any links available for those quotes? This is a good thing. Now, they're revealing just who and what they are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 306739 United States 10/05/2007 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10/13 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 308244Anniversary Symbolism -------------------------------- 10/13/2007 = 700th Anniversary Of The Destruction Of The Knights Templar on October 13th, 1307. The successors of the Knights Templar are the Freemasons and the U.S. was founded by the Freemasons. Numerology ----------------- 10/13/2007 = 1+0+1+3+2+0+0+7 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5 9/11/2001 = 9+1+1+2+0+0+1 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5 Time Windows -------------------- 10/13/2007 is 2222 Days after 9/11/2001 2222 = 1111 + 1111 --> 11:11 & 11:11 not 11:11 & 11:11 it's 11/11 11:11 1914.. the end of wwi |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 522 United States 10/05/2007 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Originally Jerusalem was meant to be looked after by the UN and to be honest if it is to ever become a holy city it does require heritage status that is taken seriously. Quoting: Lotus FeetAs far as the Vatican and this paper, my soul tells me something bigger is coming and this is to prepare the way..... yes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 284299 United States 10/05/2007 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On Jan. 4, 2001, Colin Grant published a full front page expose of the scandal in the Glasgow Sunday Post. He revealed that the Knights Templar, as descendents the Davidic line believe they have a right to reclaim the Temple Mount as their rightful heritage: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522"A spokesman for Militi Templi Scotia, the Scottish Knights Templar admitted to the Sunday Post, 'We are currently involved in an attempt to remove control of the holy sites from the Israeli government. We believe they should be administered by the United Nations and are working with the UN and NATO to achieve that goal.'" *who is set to rule over Jerusalem by UN mandate? the pope~ this the beginning, well contituation of a big story. Where is it written that the pope rules according to UN mandate? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 308223 United States 10/05/2007 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy." [The Lost Keys To Freemasonry, Manly P. Hall, published by the Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, 1976, p. 48; Emphasis added] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284299"To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.) Well Well Well Pope 111, The FALSE PROPHET, Rat Nazi Zinger, gives his blessings to Lucifer's boys.. i think i am gunna fucken PUKE Are there any links available for those quotes? This is a good thing. Now, they're revealing just who and what they are. i get banned alot for posting links..i dont understand.... :ohwell: "jaques demolet" was my search term and maybe " homosexual" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 522 United States 10/05/2007 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On Jan. 4, 2001, Colin Grant published a full front page expose of the scandal in the Glasgow Sunday Post. He revealed that the Knights Templar, as descendents the Davidic line believe they have a right to reclaim the Temple Mount as their rightful heritage: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284299"A spokesman for Militi Templi Scotia, the Scottish Knights Templar admitted to the Sunday Post, 'We are currently involved in an attempt to remove control of the holy sites from the Israeli government. We believe they should be administered by the United Nations and are working with the UN and NATO to achieve that goal.'" *who is set to rule over Jerusalem by UN mandate? the pope~ this the beginning, well contituation of a big story. Where is it written that the pope rules according to UN mandate? i'll find the news articles, this has been written about in the mainstream news for several years. often when they have me peace talks. i mean world leaders, openly, not conspiracy theory. this being done in the open. however the roslyn institute, cloning- just miles from the chapel, etc many threads may be coming together. highlander was just posting how many of the groups are not to be found online anymore... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 281673 United States 10/05/2007 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 284299 United States 10/05/2007 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281673What links? Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 281673 United States 10/05/2007 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284299What links? Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on. YOu can find all the information on this your brain can take in on the LAST PAGE of User ID: 288913 PM Re: !!!!!!!!!!!Are the House and Senate BEING BLACKMAILED? DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!! If you are able to read it and take it all in, you will KNOW why the Vatican is letting THIS slip in OCTOBER. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 522 United States 10/05/2007 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281673What links? Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on. YOu can find all the information on this your brain can take in on the LAST PAGE of User ID: 288913 PM Re: !!!!!!!!!!!Are the House and Senate BEING BLACKMAILED? DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!! If you are able to read it and take it all in, you will KNOW why the Vatican is letting THIS slip in OCTOBER. bring down the church...? no, the real church is underground. the false oneS are front and center. soon there will be a special authority. and 'world peace' what this is leading to is soooooooooooooooo much bigger than america or what we do here. what are you referring to? please don't keep us in suspence :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 281673 United States 10/05/2007 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522What links? Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on. YOu can find all the information on this your brain can take in on the LAST PAGE of User ID: 288913 PM Re: !!!!!!!!!!!Are the House and Senate BEING BLACKMAILED? DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!! If you are able to read it and take it all in, you will KNOW why the Vatican is letting THIS slip in OCTOBER. bring down the church...? no, the real church is underground. the false oneS are front and center. soon there will be a special authority. and 'world peace' what this is leading to is soooooooooooooooo much bigger than america or what we do here. what are you referring to? please don't keep us in suspence :) Please see my thread for links to the information. I cannot spoon feed it to you. 6th post down. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Also for people following the story in OPs initial post, here's some more info [link to www.theinsider.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 522 United States 10/05/2007 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 673, your condesending attitude is wearing thin. let us help each other with the puzzle...? ok? :) after reading your thread, i see nothing tying blackwater, etc to this...? tons of pmo's for awhile now, under dems too. it's common knowledge that people like wesley clark, ex-supreme commander of all nato forces takes his ultimate marching orders from rome. what's new? i tend to think you are the one who waits with baited breath, while tptb 'expose' the supposed body of yeshua~ yes? ;) is that it? great movie about that one-'the body' with bandarres i have been into this since i was 12 and i'm not going to tell you my age :) so spell it out~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 522 United States 10/05/2007 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just reread your post on the other thread. not all followers of yeshua believe the same, the world is so much more complex than that. some of us know rabbis are married, etc. and that the reasons for cloning, global extreme dna searches, mass extermination of certain bloodlines, etc. and not what that movie says. think days of noah... they have cloned him. the question is - will they present 'it' dead or alive - at first??? avalon... |