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By Malcolm Moore in Rome
Last Updated: 2:08am BST 05/10/2007

The mysteries of the Order of the Knights Templar could soon be laid bare after the Vatican announced the release of a crucial document which has not been seen for almost 700 years.
# Guardians of the Grail


Knight Templar
Knights Templar are rumoured to guard the Holy Grail

A new book, Processus contra Templarios, will be published by the Vatican's Secret Archive on Oct 25, and promises to restore the reputation of the Templars, whose leaders were burned as heretics when the order was dissolved in 1314.

The Knights Templar were a powerful and secretive group of warrior monks during the Middle Ages. Their secrecy has given birth to endless legends, including one that they guard the Holy Grail.

Recently, they have been featured in films including The Da Vinci Code and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

The Order was founded by Hugues de Payns, a French knight, after the First Crusade of 1099 to protect pilgrims on the road to Jerusalem. Its headquarters was the captured Al-Aqsa mosque on the Temple Mount, which lent the Templars their name.

But when Jerusalem fell to Muslim rule in 1244, rumours surfaced that the knights were heretics who worshipped idols in a secret initiation ceremony.
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In 1307, King Philip IV "the Fair" of France, in desperate need of funds, ordered the arrest and torture of all Templars. After confessing various sins their leader, Jacques de Molay, was burnt at the stake.

Pope Clement V then dissolved the order and issued arrest warrants for all remaining members. Ever since, the Templars have been thought of as heretics.

The new book is based on a scrap of parchment discovered in the Vatican's secret archives in 2001 by Professor Barbara Frale. The long-lost document is a record of the trial of the Templars before Pope Clement, and ends with a papal absolution from all heresies.

Prof Frale said: "I could not believe it when I found it. The paper was put in the wrong archive in the 17th century."

The document, known as the Chinon parchment, reveals that the Templars had an initiation ceremony which involved "spitting on the cross", "denying Jesus" and kissing the lower back, navel and mouth of the man proposing them.

The Templars explained to Pope Clement that the initiation mimicked the humiliation that knights could suffer if they fell into the hands of the Saracens, while the kissing ceremony was a sign of their total obedience.

The Pope concluded that the entrance ritual was not truly blasphemous, as alleged by King Philip when he had the knights arrested. However, he was forced to dissolve the Order to keep peace with France and prevent a schism in the church.

"This is proof that the Templars were not heretics," said Prof Frale. "The Pope was obliged to ask pardon from the knights.

"For 700 years we have believed that the Templars died as cursed men, and this absolves them."

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Interesting timing too.

I would love a few months in the secret archives to see what all they are hiding in there.

What have they got that people need to see??
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The document, known as the Chinon parchment, reveals that the Templars had an initiation ceremony which involved "spitting on the cross", "denying Jesus" and kissing the lower back, navel and mouth of the man proposing them.

The Templars explained to Pope Clement that the initiation mimicked the humiliation that knights could suffer if they fell into the hands of the Saracens, while the kissing ceremony was a sign of their total obedience.

The Pope concluded that the entrance ritual was not truly blasphemous,
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"When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy." [The Lost Keys To Freemasonry, Manly P. Hall, published by the Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, 1976, p. 48; Emphasis added]




"To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.)



Well Well Well


Pope 111, The FALSE PROPHET, Rat Nazi Zinger, gives his blessings to Lucifer's boys..

i think i am gunna fucken PUKE
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Ah, thanks for posting this...please see my thread "are they being blackmailed" last page...to see why the timing of this release could be very interesting.
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"Read about ALBERT PIKE, (* 33rd degree Satan worshiping freemason *last five words are added by me ), and his statements on a one world government, and the NEEDED three world wars for the Illuminated ones to take control, the THIRD world war, (yet to become) is to, according to ol ALBERT, to ELIMINATE the JEWISH AND ARAB issue once and for all.. food for thought folks.. see where we are, and what is going down... ol ALBERT seems to be spot on.
His words of the aftermath reflect what the Bible tells us also. The survivors of the third world war WILL WISE UP AND BEGIN TO WORSHIP LUCIFER, or they will be eliminated. ( killed, murdered, beheaded, etc.) Does this NOT sound like Revelation, or Apocalypse?"



"Up to you all, I do not try to make one believe what I believe. Nor do I, discount the entire Bible because of some historical oddities, or adgendas by a King in England, or wherever. It STILL has truths within it. One will get an answer to prayer if it is prayed in earnest, with the right intentions. you might NOT like the answer you get though..lol. I do believe that God somehow protected the CORE MESSAGE He intended to get out to the people in His book, or is it King James book? LOL"
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It's odd how so little info comes up on this search term..: "Jacques DeMolay", in google.
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"And if one is to believe what the Bible does tell us, (whether partial or not), then BILLIONs will die around the WORLD, not just IRAQ. And from what the PTB's have done and planned, it seems the Bible will not be far off the mark. Now next question, is it the PTB's rigging world events to MATCH Bible prophecy, or is it just happening that way?"



"Read about ALBERT PIKE, (* 33rd degree Satan worshiping freemason *last five words are added by me ), and his statements on a one world government, and the NEEDED three world wars for the Illuminated ones to take control, the THIRD world war, (yet to become) is to, according to ol ALBERT, to ELIMINATE the JEWISH AND ARAB issue once and for all.. food for thought folks.. see where we are, and what is going down... ol ALBERT seems to be spot on.
His words of the aftermath reflect what the Bible tells us also. The survivors of the third world war WILL WISE UP AND BEGIN TO WORSHIP LUCIFER, or they will be eliminated. ( killed, murdered, beheaded, etc.) Does this NOT sound like Revelation, or Apocalypse?"



"Up to you all, I do not try to make one believe what I believe. Nor do I, discount the entire Bible because of some historical oddities, or adgendas by a King in England, or wherever. It STILL has truths within it. One will get an answer to prayer if it is prayed in earnest, with the right intentions. you might NOT like the answer you get though..lol. I do believe that God somehow protected the CORE MESSAGE He intended to get out to the people in His book, or is it King James book? LOL"
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LOL this release has NOTHING to do with organized religion and it's structure, and has everything to do with trying to keep control over, and seem OK with, what is about to happen to them. They just tried to get in there first so as not to seem off guard in November.

GOD never is and never was about ANY ONE organized religion...when those fall, PEACE can happen....and the old men of power will no longer be able to control us with FEAR.
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"The Nightmare Of Horror
Now that matters had gone so far, the personal safety of King Philip the Fair lay in the utter destruction of the Knights Templar. In May 1308, he had such control of the Church that the Pope withdrew his suspension of the powers of the Inquisition in France and ordered an examination into all charges against the Templars.

Knights were thrown into damp cells and cold dungeons where many died from exposure. Hundreds of them were tortured, and many confessed guilt to escape the rack. Sixty-seven were burned at the stake in France. A nightmare of horror spread over Europe.

By now, Jacques DeMolay was almost 70 years old. Wrecked by a lifetime of battles and hardships, brokenhearted at what seemed to him a monstrous ingratitude on the part of his countrymen, betrayed by King Philip and Pope Clement V, both of whom he had considered to be friends, he was in no condition to endure the dungeon and torture chamber.

DeMolay was brought before several royal and papal commissions and urged to renounce the Order. On March 2, 1310, he demanded a trial by Clement himself, arguing that since the Templars were under the Pope’s own care, the Pope alone had the right to try them. It was his only defense.

In April 1311, Pope Clement, now completely defeated in any effort he may have made to defend the Order, came into a formal agreement with Philip and issued an official announcement, a Papal Bull, condemning the Templars. On April 3, 1312, with Philip sitting at his right, Pope Clement preached a sermon condemning the Order. That same month, he issued an order transferring Templar property into other hands. A great portion went to the various sovereigns, with Philip claiming the lion’s share. The Order was destroyed, its houses were closed, its land was distributed, and its treasuries were expropriated.

DeMolay Becomes A Martyr
On December 22, 1313, more than six years after the first arrest of the Knights Templar, Pope Clement commissioned a number of judges to determine the fate of DeMolay and three of his knights: Godfrey de Goneville, Guy of Auvergne, and Hughes de Peralde. These commissioners of doom built a public platform and a pulpit in front of the cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris. Surrounded by a throng of people, the four men were brought out early on the morning of March 11, 1314. A bishop preached a long, rambling sermon about the great things happening in that day and age, and then the commissioners read a number of documents, among them a report of DeMolay’s interrogation six years before in which he made a forced confession under torture.

The commissioners proclaimed the men’s sentence: life in prison. Two of the knights accepted their sentence without question, but not Jacques DeMolay who, after hearing his false confession, stood and denounced it along with the other charges against the Knights Templar. Guy of Auvergne stood with him. According to the legal customs of the day, this was a retraction of confession and punishable by death. Word was immediately sent to Philip, and, ignoring all due process of law, he ordered the two prisoners burned at the stake that very evening on the small island of Seine.

At sunset, DeMolay and Guy were taken to the stake. The accounts of what happened next are confusing, but every detail seems to confirm that DeMolay was firm and brave in his final hour. When the soldiers came to tie his hands, he said in a strong, loud, and clear voice: “Gentlemen, let me join my hands a little and make my prayer to God. It is truly time for it, for I am going to die immediately. God knows that I have not deserved my torture. Misfortune will soon come to those who have condemned us. God will avenge our death upon our enemies. I die with that conviction. For you, gentlemen, turn, I pray you, my face toward the Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus Christ.”

“Then,” said Godfrey de Paris, the poet, a witness of the scene, “they granted him his request, and death took him so sweetly in that attitude, so that all marvelled at it.”

Within the year, Pope Clement V died, abandoned by his own friends. Indeed, his body lay unburied for some time. Shortly thereafter, as if pursued by the same furies, Philip died a violent death. His three brothers also died soon thereafter, thus ending the branch of Philip’s family on the French dynasty.

Historians differ violently upon the validity of the charges against the Knights Templar of medieval Europe. The most thorough examination was made by American historian Henry Charles Lea who concluded that, while a few individual Templars may have been guilty of crime or theft, the Order itself was guiltless. And though Jacques DeMolay may have weakened under torture and made a false confession, his deep conviction of his innocence strengthened him at the stake, allowing the old warrior to die like the hero he truly was.

The charges of murder and theft, not to mention those of witchcraft and devil worship, made against the Knights Templars of yesteryear should remind Freemasons of today that the forces of falsehood and greed are never far away. Indeed, much of those evil rumors and charges made against DeMolay and his knights should ring familiar in the ear of the thoughtful Freemason.

To counteract such charges today, we should open our Lodges, Temples, and other Masonic buildings and allow modern society to witness our unselfish deeds for the benefit of others. Only by so doing, can we prevent another day of infamy, one that occurred almost 1,000 years ago, when Jacques DeMolay, Martyr of Masonic chivalry and namesake of the International Order of DeMolay for young men, perished amid the flames.{"
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they are bring back the Knights ...

what for ?????
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they are bring back the Knights ...

what for ?????
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Good question
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10/13
Anniversary Symbolism
--------------------------------
10/13/2007 = 700th Anniversary Of The Destruction Of The Knights Templar on October 13th, 1307.

The successors of the Knights Templar are the Freemasons and the U.S. was founded by the Freemasons.

Numerology
-----------------
10/13/2007 = 1+0+1+3+2+0+0+7 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5

9/11/2001 = 9+1+1+2+0+0+1 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5

Time Windows
--------------------
10/13/2007 is 2222 Days after 9/11/2001

2222 = 1111 + 1111 --> 11:11 & 11:11
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~they each have 'something' the other wants, but both need all
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On Jan. 4, 2001, Colin Grant published a full front page expose of the scandal in the Glasgow Sunday Post. He revealed that the Knights Templar, as descendents the Davidic line believe they have a right to reclaim the Temple Mount as their rightful heritage:

"A spokesman for Militi Templi Scotia, the Scottish Knights Templar admitted to the Sunday Post, 'We are currently involved in an attempt to remove control of the holy sites from the Israeli government. We believe they should be administered by the United Nations and are working with the UN and NATO to achieve that goal.'"


*who is set to rule over Jerusalem by UN mandate?

the pope~

this the beginning, well contituation of a big story.
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Originally Jerusalem was meant to be looked after by the UN and to be honest if it is to ever become a holy city it does require heritage status that is taken seriously.

As far as the Vatican and this paper, my soul tells me something bigger is coming and this is to prepare the way.....
i love satan
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"When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy." [The Lost Keys To Freemasonry, Manly P. Hall, published by the Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, 1976, p. 48; Emphasis added]




"To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.)



Well Well Well


Pope 111, The FALSE PROPHET, Rat Nazi Zinger, gives his blessings to Lucifer's boys..

i think i am gunna fucken PUKE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 307580


Are there any links available for those quotes?

This is a good thing. Now, they're revealing just who and what they are.
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10/13
Anniversary Symbolism
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10/13/2007 = 700th Anniversary Of The Destruction Of The Knights Templar on October 13th, 1307.

The successors of the Knights Templar are the Freemasons and the U.S. was founded by the Freemasons.

Numerology
-----------------
10/13/2007 = 1+0+1+3+2+0+0+7 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5

9/11/2001 = 9+1+1+2+0+0+1 = 14 --> 1+4 = 5

Time Windows
--------------------
10/13/2007 is 2222 Days after 9/11/2001

2222 = 1111 + 1111 --> 11:11 & 11:11
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not 11:11 & 11:11

it's 11/11 11:11

1914.. the end of wwi
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Originally Jerusalem was meant to be looked after by the UN and to be honest if it is to ever become a holy city it does require heritage status that is taken seriously.

As far as the Vatican and this paper, my soul tells me something bigger is coming and this is to prepare the way.....
 Quoting: Lotus Feet



yes.
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On Jan. 4, 2001, Colin Grant published a full front page expose of the scandal in the Glasgow Sunday Post. He revealed that the Knights Templar, as descendents the Davidic line believe they have a right to reclaim the Temple Mount as their rightful heritage:

"A spokesman for Militi Templi Scotia, the Scottish Knights Templar admitted to the Sunday Post, 'We are currently involved in an attempt to remove control of the holy sites from the Israeli government. We believe they should be administered by the United Nations and are working with the UN and NATO to achieve that goal.'"


*who is set to rule over Jerusalem by UN mandate?

the pope~

this the beginning, well contituation of a big story.
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Where is it written that the pope rules according to UN mandate?
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"When a Mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy." [The Lost Keys To Freemasonry, Manly P. Hall, published by the Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, 1976, p. 48; Emphasis added]




"To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: 'the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN Doctrine. If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (Jesus)... calumniate (spread false and harmful statements about) him?...Yes Lucifer is God..."(Albert Pike, A.C. De La Rive, La Femme et l'Enfant dans la Franc-Maqonnene Universelle, page 588.)



Well Well Well


Pope 111, The FALSE PROPHET, Rat Nazi Zinger, gives his blessings to Lucifer's boys..

i think i am gunna fucken PUKE


Are there any links available for those quotes?

This is a good thing. Now, they're revealing just who and what they are.
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i get banned alot for posting links..i dont understand....
:ohwell:

"jaques demolet" was my search term and maybe "
homosexual"
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On Jan. 4, 2001, Colin Grant published a full front page expose of the scandal in the Glasgow Sunday Post. He revealed that the Knights Templar, as descendents the Davidic line believe they have a right to reclaim the Temple Mount as their rightful heritage:

"A spokesman for Militi Templi Scotia, the Scottish Knights Templar admitted to the Sunday Post, 'We are currently involved in an attempt to remove control of the holy sites from the Israeli government. We believe they should be administered by the United Nations and are working with the UN and NATO to achieve that goal.'"


*who is set to rule over Jerusalem by UN mandate?

the pope~

this the beginning, well contituation of a big story.


Where is it written that the pope rules according to UN mandate?
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i'll find the news articles, this has been written about in the mainstream news for several years. often when they have me peace talks. i mean world leaders, openly, not conspiracy theory. this being done in the open.

however the roslyn institute, cloning- just miles from the chapel, etc many threads may be coming together.

highlander was just posting how many of the groups are not to be found online anymore...
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Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike.
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Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike.
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What links?

Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on.
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On Jan. 4, 2001, Colin Grant published a full front page expose of the scandal in the Glasgow Sunday Post. He revealed that the Knights Templar, as descendents the Davidic line believe they have a right to reclaim the Temple Mount as their rightful heritage:

"A spokesman for Militi Templi Scotia, the Scottish Knights Templar admitted to the Sunday Post, 'We are currently involved in an attempt to remove control of the holy sites from the Israeli government. We believe they should be administered by the United Nations and are working with the UN and NATO to achieve that goal.'"


*who is set to rule over Jerusalem by UN mandate?

the pope~

this the beginning, well contituation of a big story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522



b i n g o
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Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike.



What links?

Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on.
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YOu can find all the information on this your brain can take in on the LAST PAGE of


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If you are able to read it and take it all in, you will KNOW why the Vatican is letting THIS slip in OCTOBER.
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Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike.



What links?

Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on.



YOu can find all the information on this your brain can take in on the LAST PAGE of


User ID: 288913
PM Re: !!!!!!!!!!!Are the House and Senate BEING BLACKMAILED? DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!

If you are able to read it and take it all in, you will KNOW why the Vatican is letting THIS slip in OCTOBER.
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bring down the church...? no, the real church is underground. the false oneS are front and center.
soon there will be a special authority. and 'world peace'

what this is leading to is soooooooooooooooo much bigger than america or what we do here. what are you referring to? please don't keep us in suspence :)
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Ya'll are SO missing the forest for the trees here, but that does not surprise me. I posted links to the BIG secret that is going to be exposed in November *not aliens...lol this is going to bring down the church as you know it...and they just made a pre-emptive strike.



What links?

Don't be cryptic people! Show us the info. I'd like to pass it on.



YOu can find all the information on this your brain can take in on the LAST PAGE of


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If you are able to read it and take it all in, you will KNOW why the Vatican is letting THIS slip in OCTOBER.



bring down the church...? no, the real church is underground. the false oneS are front and center.
soon there will be a special authority. and 'world peace'

what this is leading to is soooooooooooooooo much bigger than america or what we do here. what are you referring to? please don't keep us in suspence :)
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Please see my thread for links to the information. I cannot spoon feed it to you. 6th post down.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Also for people following the story in OPs initial post, here's some more info

[link to www.theinsider.org]
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Re: Vatican paper set to clear Knights Templar
673, your condesending attitude is wearing thin. let us help each other with the puzzle...? ok? :)
after reading your thread, i see nothing tying blackwater, etc to this...? tons of pmo's for awhile now, under dems too.

it's common knowledge that people like wesley clark, ex-supreme commander of all nato forces takes his ultimate marching orders from rome. what's new?


i tend to think you are the one who waits with baited breath, while tptb 'expose' the supposed body of yeshua~ yes? ;) is that it?

great movie about that one-'the body' with bandarres


i have been into this since i was 12 and i'm not going to tell you my age :)

so spell it out~
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10/05/2007 05:24 PM
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Re: Vatican paper set to clear Knights Templar
just reread your post on the other thread. not all followers of yeshua believe the same, the world is so much more complex than that. some of us know rabbis are married, etc. and that the reasons for cloning, global extreme dna searches, mass extermination of certain bloodlines, etc. and not what that movie says. think days of noah...

they have cloned him. the question is - will they present 'it' dead or alive - at first???

avalon...





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