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freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 06/01/2020 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 amazing to see, isn't it... those that want to quote scripture twist what is so clearly stated into their own belief system... If it is so clear maybe you want to explain what she is trying to show? That the 144K are part of Israel? That is a given. What is the point here? So are you saying the 144K are the priesthood reintroducing the temple and the temple laws and feasts? I believe the 2 witness proclaim the gospel of the kingdom, (the King is coming) the priesthood picks right back up the moment this dispensation of grace is over (rapture) ... law returns, the temple and the fulfillment of GODS prophesy toward Israel ... this entire dispensation of grace was a complete mystery until Jesus, from heaven, revealed it to Paul... GOD created the heaven and the earth... ALL the promises to Israel are earthly... "thy kingdom come, thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven... all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly... "But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ" Christ IS NOT divided... same Christ, revealing a way for all peoples of the earth to experience salvation since the nation of Israel rejected the priesthood... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 06/01/2020 10:01 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
He is Risen
User ID: 74869070 United States 06/01/2020 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, they're wrong actually if you look at the different translations and the Latin and Greek words behind the word rapture'. The word 'rapture' is not listed in the English bible. But it is listed in the Latin Vulgate bible, written by Jerome in the early 400's AD. The word there is ‘rapiemur‘, 'raeptius' or 'rapturo' , which translated into English means 'rapture'. It is found here in the English bible: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be *caught up* together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. In English bibles, ‘rapiemur‘, 'raeptius' or 'rapturo' is transliterated into 'caught up'. That happens sometimes during the translation process to try to communicate the point more familiarly. The original Thessalonian manuscripts however were written in Greek. There were actually no 'English' words at all in the original bibles, including the word 'bible' itself. And the original Greek word for 'rapture' is listed in English script as 'harpazo', which means 'to rapture up into the air', or to 'snatch away'. It was this original Greek term 'harpazo' that Jerome later translated into Latin as ‘rapiemur‘, 'raptus' or 'raeptius', which was later translated into English as 'rapture'. These terms all mean the same thing: 'to be caught up'. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to www.raptureready.com (secure)] So the rapture is very much a written part of the bible. The only thing being contested is the timing of the rapture. “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” - Joseph Stalin How can I be saved? [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] |
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User ID: 77237285 United States 06/01/2020 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 thess "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition." the departing, I believe, is the rapture and it has to come before the anti-christ is revealed... freedomsnotfree1 |
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freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 06/01/2020 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am from Paradise.. such a thing does not apply to me. What was possible was the axis shift during which the entire planet would be evacuated... anyone who would board ship during the one to two hours available because of the sudden volcanism.. would be lifted. The rapture of Christians only is stupid. And not possible at all. Enoch and Elijah...rapture is nothing new... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 06/01/2020 09:48 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
He is Risen
User ID: 74869070 United States 06/01/2020 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of these raptures have happened already: 1. Enoch was raptured. 2. Elijah was raptured. 3. Yahshua(Jesus) was raptured. 4. Those who were resurrected at the same time as Yahshua were raptured. And in the future too: 5. The Christians of the Church Age (both living and dead) will be raptured. 6. The Tribulation Saints who die before Yahshua's 2nd Coming at Armageddon will be raptured, or at least resurrected. 7. Those who die during Yahshua's Millennial Kingdom will be raptured. The bible is full of raptures, if one takes the time to study them. Sorry Candace, God does not fly around in a UFO. There is only One Son: Yahshua. Your book of urantia is a fraud. "All is One is All" I believe is blasphemy as well. Instead of trusting in your UFO religious text, try trusting in God, and trust in His Word. “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” - Joseph Stalin How can I be saved? [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] |
Baloney
User ID: 75923721 United States 06/01/2020 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | baloney! and no, the rapture/resurrection event does not apply to those ones lost in the urantia cult. urantians are left behind to serve satan of nebadon's coming antichrist. |
Baloney
User ID: 75923721 United States 06/01/2020 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | baloney. Jesus, the only begotten son of GOD is NOT back since 1954 and has NOT been hanging around on any phony urantian spaceship that only you and members of your cult get beamed up to. you've beeen educated on this many, many times. and no, his millennial reign did NOT start 16 months ago. |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 06/01/2020 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ……….....………………………… Quoting: Judethz Many of you know instinctively by now that our morally bankrupt Western society's are crumbling around us because of our greed and depravity. All this is but the beginning of sorrows. What counts is the salvation of your soul, we are only upon this earth for a little while. Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. and what about all the other sorrows of this world. What about the 20 million dead in the battle for Greater Israel since 911? What about the world wars? What about Vietnam? and these are recent so to speak... what about the US civil war... what about the civil wars in many other countries.... surely all of these are massive sorrows and my list is short. Now somebody removed a post in this thread... I made around the silly 144,000 stuff. Some Christians... think only those will be raptured away.. yet they lived 12,000 years ago already. But if you believe that.. how come there are well over 1 billion Christians who all believe they will be raptured by virtual of being members of a religion Jesus never started? Dark shits started it. And lots of dark shits are in it NOW keeping you all mind controlled to fake shit. Why would the GAWD you believe in take only Christians and not other "faiths" ? It does not work this way in the cosmos... You do not know who you even be.. but those who are indwelled by the Father .. any human.. has jack shit to do with organized religions... ye are only begotten sons of the Father if you be seekers from the heart. Faith is from the heart.. You are saved by your Faith from the heart... YOU CHOOSE eternal life or not. You don't even comprehend yet eternal life and what Heaven is.... you want rapture to walk across the clouds with Jesus.. not going to happen.. and you want that for trillions of years? Eternal life is forever. In the days after Jesus was crucified... folks thought he would return in their lifetimes.. but he did teach his close followers who still did not comprehend he would be back in around 2000 years. Your churches do not teach you to REASON... They do not teach you to grow up your spirit and your knowledge and they do not teach you how to walk AS CHRIST on this world. So many of you are stuck in your bible that is loaded with BS... and you attend churches loaded with BS.. you do not comprehend the universe and its intelligence even. Some of you think this is "GAWDS" only planet. This is the time the man of earth will grow into HUman.. HIGHER UNIVERSE man and its evolutionary... you are in cosmic energies now that mandate this in fact.. But your evolution has been slowed by the fact of all the controlled religions created by dark shits.. and all of them are... and this includes a lot of new age bullshit too. You are to grow OUT OF BULLSHIT. Its nasty. satan has a firm grip on your beliefs freedomsnotfree1 |
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Achduke7
User ID: 75806598 United States 06/01/2020 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 If it is so clear maybe you want to explain what she is trying to show? That the 144K are part of Israel? That is a given. What is the point here? So are you saying the 144K are the priesthood reintroducing the temple and the temple laws and feasts? I believe the 2 witness proclaim the gospel of the kingdom, (the King is coming) the priesthood picks right back up the moment this dispensation of grace is over (rapture) ... law returns, the temple and the fulfillment of GODS prophesy toward Israel ... this entire dispensation of grace was a complete mystery until Jesus, from heaven, revealed it to Paul... GOD created the heaven and the earth... ALL the promises to Israel are earthly... "thy kingdom come, thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven... all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly... "But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ" Christ IS NOT divided... same Christ, revealing a way for all peoples of the earth to experience salvation since the nation of Israel rejected the priesthood... In revelation there is no physical temple. Also in Rev 20:6 it looks like the priesthood is not reinstituted until the millennium after the 1st resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. Rev 21:22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 06/01/2020 10:39 AM Achduke |
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freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 06/01/2020 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So are you saying the 144K are the priesthood reintroducing the temple and the temple laws and feasts? I believe the 2 witness proclaim the gospel of the kingdom, (the King is coming) the priesthood picks right back up the moment this dispensation of grace is over (rapture) ... law returns, the temple and the fulfillment of GODS prophesy toward Israel ... this entire dispensation of grace was a complete mystery until Jesus, from heaven, revealed it to Paul... GOD created the heaven and the earth... ALL the promises to Israel are earthly... "thy kingdom come, thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven... all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly... "But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ" Christ IS NOT divided... same Christ, revealing a way for all peoples of the earth to experience salvation since the nation of Israel rejected the priesthood... In revelation there is no physical temple. Also in Rev 20:6 it looks like the priesthood is not reinstituted until the millennium after the 1st resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. Rev 21:22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. ...of course there is... what do you think the antichrist desecrates 3.5 years into tribulation... the Sanhedrin already have the plans and a pure red heifer has been born, first time in 2000 years, for the cleansing... that's what I believe... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 06/01/2020 11:29 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
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User ID: 69637911 United States 06/01/2020 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 So are you saying the 144K are the priesthood reintroducing the temple and the temple laws and feasts? I believe the 2 witness proclaim the gospel of the kingdom, (the King is coming) the priesthood picks right back up the moment this dispensation of grace is over (rapture) ... law returns, the temple and the fulfillment of GODS prophesy toward Israel ... this entire dispensation of grace was a complete mystery until Jesus, from heaven, revealed it to Paul... GOD created the heaven and the earth... ALL the promises to Israel are earthly... "thy kingdom come, thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven... all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly... "But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ" Christ IS NOT divided... same Christ, revealing a way for all peoples of the earth to experience salvation since the nation of Israel rejected the priesthood... In revelation there is no physical temple. Also in Rev 20:6 it looks like the priesthood is not reinstituted until the millennium after the 1st resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. Rev 21:22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. ...of course there is... what do you think the antichrist desecrates 3.5 years into tribulation... the Sanhedrin already have the plans and a pure red heifer has been born, first time in 2000 years, for the cleansing... that's what I believe... Did God grant them permission to just build a temple on their own? Where does it say the antichrist/man of sin desecrates the temple? The temple of God is man. Why do you think there is no temple in Revelation? God dwells with man and man is the temple. 2 Thes 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Last Edited by Achduke7 on 06/01/2020 11:38 AM Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71088931 United States 06/01/2020 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need Jesus, He died for you. Time is short, look around, they needed chaos in order for the antichrist to make order out of this mess. Jesus died and rose again and He promises to take us to be with Him. Be ready, there will be no time to get ready, He is coming back soon. |
Judethz
(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 06/01/2020 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did God grant them permission to just build a temple on their own? Quoting: Achduke7 Where does it say the antichrist/man of sin desecrates the temple? The temple of God is man. Why do you think there is no temple in Revelation? God dwells with man and man is the temple. 2 Thes 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? No this will be the false temple built for the Last Days. Note: Posting this similie does not imply endorsement. |
Monkeybluebird
User ID: 78838016 United States 06/01/2020 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need Jesus, He died for you. Time is short, look around, they needed chaos in order for the antichrist to make order out of this mess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71088931 Jesus died and rose again and He promises to take us to be with Him. Be ready, there will be no time to get ready, He is coming back soon. You need Jesus, He died for you. Time is short, look around, they needed chaos in order for the antichrist to make order out of this mess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71088931 Jesus died and rose again and He promises to take us to be with Him. Be ready, there will be no time to get ready, He is coming back soon. Amen . praise the lord Monkeybluebird |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78247744 United States 06/01/2020 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 3:10 - New English Translation (2005) 10. Because you have kept my admonition to endure steadfastly, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come on the whole world to test those who live on the earth. this gathering happens soon but it is not the 1st resurrection that does not happen until Rev 18 |
He is Risen
User ID: 74869070 United States 06/01/2020 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 I believe the 2 witness proclaim the gospel of the kingdom, (the King is coming) the priesthood picks right back up the moment this dispensation of grace is over (rapture) ... law returns, the temple and the fulfillment of GODS prophesy toward Israel ... this entire dispensation of grace was a complete mystery until Jesus, from heaven, revealed it to Paul... GOD created the heaven and the earth... ALL the promises to Israel are earthly... "thy kingdom come, thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven... all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly... "But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ" Christ IS NOT divided... same Christ, revealing a way for all peoples of the earth to experience salvation since the nation of Israel rejected the priesthood... In revelation there is no physical temple. Also in Rev 20:6 it looks like the priesthood is not reinstituted until the millennium after the 1st resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. Rev 21:22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. ...of course there is... what do you think the antichrist desecrates 3.5 years into tribulation... the Sanhedrin already have the plans and a pure red heifer has been born, first time in 2000 years, for the cleansing... that's what I believe... Did God grant them permission to just build a temple on their own? Where does it say the antichrist/man of sin desecrates the temple? The temple of God is man. Why do you think there is no temple in Revelation? God dwells with man and man is the temple. 2 Thes 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Since when does modern Israel do what God wants them to do? They will build the Temple on their own. And God will allow them to do so because He has told us it will happen. The Antichrist's desecration of the temple is in Daniel. The temple referred to in Daniel and in it's corresponding place in Revelation is a physical temple, one that people can walk inside of, and one that the Antichrist will set up his own talking image inside of. There is no reason to try to allegoricize the temple here. The temple on the temple mount in Jerusalem does exist in Revelation. Israel is in rebellion to God right now, and have been so for almost 2000 years. They will build the temple again because that is what then want to do. Your verse there 2 Thess 2:4 proves the point: He who opposes and exalts himself is the Antichrist. What does he do? He will set himself up as if her were God. And he will sit in the temple of God. He will not sit inside his own body. Neither will the Holy Spirit dwell in his body, as his body is not the temple of God. So if the Antichrist's body is not the temple of God, what will he then sit in? The Antichrist will sit in a physical temple of God. Will God receive this temple and their sacrifices? No, of course not. Will this stop the Hebrews from building it? No, that will not stop them. They are deluded into thinking they will be doing the proper thing, when in fact they will be blaspheming God instead. It seems you may be conflating 1 Corinthians 3:16 with 2 Thess 2:4. Since Yahshua(Jesus) died for our sins and was resurrected, and we are saved, now our bodies are the REAL temples of God. Things have changed since the cross. The Hebrews unfortunately do not understand this. They do not understand the bible's dispensations. They are still trying to live in the dispensation of the Old Testament instead of the new dispensation of the New Testament. They will build a replica of the Old Testament's last temple when they should be proclaiming their real Messiah. And if they did so, they would learn what the temple of God really is now. But their eyes are still veiled for now. So you could say that the Antichrist will sit in a fake physical temple of God that will sit on the temple mount, at or near where the last physical temple sat. The Antichrist doesn't care that it will be fake. He just wants it built so that he can desecrate it and demand to be worshiped in it. That will not be pleasing to God either, but yet it will happen. How do I know? Because the bible says so. “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” - Joseph Stalin How can I be saved? [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 06/01/2020 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 I believe the 2 witness proclaim the gospel of the kingdom, (the King is coming) the priesthood picks right back up the moment this dispensation of grace is over (rapture) ... law returns, the temple and the fulfillment of GODS prophesy toward Israel ... this entire dispensation of grace was a complete mystery until Jesus, from heaven, revealed it to Paul... GOD created the heaven and the earth... ALL the promises to Israel are earthly... "thy kingdom come, thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven... all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly... "But our conversation is in heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, even the Lord Jesus Christ" Christ IS NOT divided... same Christ, revealing a way for all peoples of the earth to experience salvation since the nation of Israel rejected the priesthood... In revelation there is no physical temple. Also in Rev 20:6 it looks like the priesthood is not reinstituted until the millennium after the 1st resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. Rev 21:22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. ...of course there is... what do you think the antichrist desecrates 3.5 years into tribulation... the Sanhedrin already have the plans and a pure red heifer has been born, first time in 2000 years, for the cleansing... that's what I believe... Did God grant them permission to just build a temple on their own? Where does it say the antichrist/man of sin desecrates the temple? The temple of God is man. Why do you think there is no temple in Revelation? God dwells with man and man is the temple. 2 Thes 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Perfect...you just quoted it in 2 thes 2:4 ... That's future events during those 7 years after the body of Christ has been raptured... the Sandhedrin already have the temple plans and the pure red heifer, first one born in 2000 years, has been born ... the priesthood went to temple, under the law... the body of Christ IS the temple and under grace... see the difference? If you mix Jesus's teaching to Israel with the later revelations he gave Paul, it creates huge confusion... separate those messages and the whole word of GOD opens like a flower... ONLY Paul addresses the body of Christ (Christians) do a search on bible gateway... he never addresses his followers as part of the priesthood... and Peter NEVER addresses his followers as part of the body of Christ... 1Peter2:9 "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal Priesthood, an holy nation, a people set at liberty, that ye should show forth the virtues of him that hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light, just my thoughts... freedomsnotfree1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77809834 Canada 06/01/2020 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a different take on the Rapture: 1. Only 1 in 4 will be raptued that is 25% going up 75% will be left behind. (parable of the sower math)(Matthew 13:18-23) AND 2. Only those who continually perform Good Works will qualify to go up. (Titus 1:16) ( [link to www.openbible.info (secure)] AND 3. Only those who have Communion on a regular bases will qualify to go up. (John 6:54) So as you can see...quite a few fake, subverted, disobedient, professing do nothing christians will be left behind to be TESTED. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51720357 South Africa 06/01/2020 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the mindset is bewildering to me,, so, there is millions of people, who believe, they are as righteous as Elijah and Enoch, and are all en masse, just going to float off and dodge the days of punishment ? its like right there... Luk 21:22 “Because these are days of vengeance, to fill all that have been written. and then xD luke 17, the very chapter they use, has this last verse,, like WHERE they gonna get raptured too? Luk 17:37 And they answering, said to Him, “Where, Master?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures shall be gathered together.” Footnote: cSee Mat_24:28. dude, if vultures are circling you, yer fkn dead man. go read Bible. less hearsay |
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