Challenge to atheists and evolutionists to find 3 things *Challenge is now open to all*

Prove your version of the truth is true

What a bunch of shit questions.

You are disqualified from the challenge. Question mark. Yes, you are.

I shouldn't be, 'cause I don't believe in a God.

Edit: Meant to quote the OP quoting me.

Last Edited by Lord Vishnu on 12/05/2019 12:28 AM

OP is a Satanist like most/nearly all/basically all/ virtually every Christian

Satan is the God of Order. Order is slow motion. Order is time. Order is stagnation order is idleness, order is zero thermal output, order is data conforming to the path of least resistance for recording machine.

Entropy is the return to omnipresence. Order is synonamous with a prison cell. You pastor sucking choir fucking pregame church ticket idiots need to stop paying fucking games and quit dragging out OUR hell with YOUR stupidity: You worship Satan because your too fucking dumb.

But you believe in invisible question marks which aren't there, so you do have faith. You're disqualified.

Just because you are too retarded to understand doesn't mean that everyone else is.

Understand what?

'I'm being challenged! And I can't answer! I don't like that! I'm angry! What can I do? Ah! I will give the thread 1 star and leave!'
-atheist and evolutionist

You cant prove anything you are saying either. . .

Why ask atheist anything? You believe good on you now I request you and others leave us alone! I don't bark or question you why you believe so don't question me either!

No-one knows why we are here mean time I have a life to live!

I can disprove any claim otherwise, that is my claim. So offer it up or take the Loss, and believe in God, and get the Win.

I've seen lots of threads from unbelievers challenging Christians over the years, and I wasn't offended.

Op is brainwashed and can't think for himself.

Don't bully the op.

I'm glad you we not offended me either! We're all on this spinning rock in space some of us believe one story why others don't. All I can do is witness the day to day and I'll find out when I get to the finish line what's next!

All good, I wish we'd all head toward peace vs constant fighting over everything!

The freckle on my nuts.


A dice roll.


Me getting a full house in poker.


Most atheists I know don't think EVERYTHING is random. They accept that there are natural laws that govern the universe. They just aren't convinced that there's an omnipotent, omniscient being that wants us to cut our foreskins off and sacrifice goats. You have evidence for this?

If we could look at the history of your nuts we could certainly understand why the freckle(s) appeared there. I don't feel like researching why freckles are, but I believe scientists probably have a good enough explanation that you would accept.

If we could setup high speed cameras we could use mathematical algorithms to determine the trajectory of the bounces and spins of dice to understand clearly why the numbers they landed on were logical. It could be predicted in fact.

If we could look at the history of the card deck and knew where all the cards are and see that a dealer put so much pressure on the deck when shuffling and how fast causing the cards to align in the deck where they were and that because someone else asked for a card and is why you didn't get a certain other card but got the cards you got we could see that it makes sense and is logical why you got a full house.

We don't need to know the intimate history of all things in order to understand there is a reason for everything which rejects chance and randomness as actual properties of creation as opposed to being only perspectives of our ignorance.

I'm talking about that specific freckle. What's its purpose?

So you're saying that every single thing that occurs is deterministic. Does God decide every single dice roll, coin toss and every poker hand?

What's the reason for freckles. I heard that they are places where the body stores toxins. Find out what scientists have found about freckles and apply the reason to it on your balls.

I believe everything is God's doing except our choice to go against his will. Since we have free will, God didn't determine what the dice roll outcome would be, you did, but by his laws of physics. Had you not rolled them then his laws would not be applied to them in that sense of their determined outcome.

Obey God and live. That is a determined outcome. Disobey God and die the double death. That also is a determined outcome.

Also if there is one freckle on your sack it's probably a wart. Were you rewarded from fornication?!

So God intentionally placed the freckle there for a purpose... but you don't know what it is. Evidence please.

I don't determine what the dice roll is. That's absurd. If God doesn't determine what it is, and it's just a product of natural laws interacting without intelligent intervention, then that makes it random. That's what people mean when they say random.

Meiosis is the process whereby genes are shuffled during reproduction. This is why siblings look different to each other. Because there appears to be no intended outcome, and the outcome can not be predicted, we call this random.

You want evidence that I currently don't know the purpose of freckles? Here is one actually true purpose for that freckle.. to be talking and talked about right here right now. You cannot deny that fact in truth.


The force you apply to the die and how it rolls off your hand and at what angles and by what vectors of physical laws and what it hits and how, things I'm not an expert in, determine the outcome. You affected the die, so your input is factored into the equation.

Natural laws ARE intelligent intervention. For reference of the contrary see the videos in the op for an example. There's no logical reason a spaceship would turn into a yarn ball, if random chaos truly existed.

Just because you, we, I don't understand something doesn't make it random. "Random" is only a matter of perspective but not an actual truth of reality.

You're saying God placed the freckle there so that this conversation could happen? So you know the mind of God? I've never spoken to a prophet before.

Forget the freckle. go outside and find a naturally occuring hole in the ground. What's its purpose? You can't possibly demonstrate that it has one, all you can do is assert that you know God put it there. Without evidence. It's kind of arrogant.

I don't believe in 'random chaos' as you describe it. And neither do practically all atheists. Atheists believe in natural laws... they just don't claim to know that it was created by Yahweh, or Zeus or any of the other gods humans have worshiped.

Are you claiming that you do know? How?

Yes. God placed it there to be talked about now, at the very least of its purpose. That is why it's impossible to name something without purpose, even the hole in the ground. If not to talk about then to observe. Who's denying that there is a reason it is there? Not me. Not you. So the hole in the ground that is stumbled upon "randomly" wasn't randomly stumbled upon neither does it exist for and because of no reason, and neither does the universe itself.

I can comprehend a little of the mind of God, he is not hiding from me or anyone. Of course all that is currently is an infinitesimal fraction of infinite possibility. I don't want to be God, it seems too hard and too boring. I prefer being me, simple and ignorant of many things.

You do believe in random chaos if and because you assert that some things have no purpose and are illogically existent.

I do know that the universe was created by a supreme intelligent power because I have talked with it and I know him and he is not a liar.

All you have done is presuppose that everything that exists has a purpose. You have no evidence of that. You say everything has a purpose. Someone else says everything doesn't have a purpose. Why should I believe you?

No, I never said anything is 'illogicaly existent.' You're misrepresenting me. I -like most normal people- use the word random to describe a lottery or a dice roll, because the outcome is not intelligently determined, nor determined by predictable circumstances. I accept that natural laws exist. Science is only possible because the universe behaves in a predictable manner.

You don't know what I or God believes. I don't believe in your concept of random chaos. I see no reason to think that a hole in the ground, or an oil stain on the road was placed there for a purpose. You can provide no reason to believe that it was.

Likewise, atheists see no reason to presuppose that Yahweh exists.

I have been watching this A-hole shill spreading his christian nonsense propaganda. We know what you shills are doing. You are trying to change one of the best conspiracy forums online to a christian website. Why dont you mods ban this shill??

You can't name 1 thing without a purpose, so my point stands. I'm not here to convince you of anything, that's not my job. Name 1 thing without purpose. If you can, you only think you can, in the same way that you think outcomes are not intelligently determined by predictable circumstances. It's a weak perception and assertion. Your own reasoning is lacking logic.

The oil stain on the road exists because a car leaked oil. That's cause and effect. Its purpose is obeying the laws of physics which keep everything in order thereby keeping the universe predictable instead of there being random chaos. How many more purposes do you want me to give? Isn't 2 enough?

No... that really is something else...

Last Edited by Lord Vishnu on 12/05/2019 06:39 AM