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Read John 10:16 - Does Jesus Suggest Other Worlds Exist?

 
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Read John 10:16 - Does Jesus Suggest Other Worlds Exist?
While reading John 10... It dawned on me that possibly Jesus might be suggesting that others exist in the universe..


Read all of John 10 in different translations.. Then look at verse 16.. I'm not sure, but it poses thought for sure.

NIV Translation:
14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

KJV Translation:
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
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He was referring to the Gentiles.
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He was referring to the Gentiles.
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Yes.. and yet is it also possible the are even more sheep pens?
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"I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen"

He's speaking of the lost Israelites who were not present at the "sheep pen" of Israel but lived elsewhere.
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While reading John 10... It dawned on me that possibly Jesus might be suggesting that others exist in the universe..


Read all of John 10 in different translations.. Then look at verse 16.. I'm not sure, but it poses thought for sure.

NIV Translation:
14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

KJV Translation:
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
 Quoting: abeliever



kind of shows you how easily it is to change words with all the revisions done to the Bible over all the years


pen = fold.

Imagine what other words have been shifted to other seemingly unrelated words that sound like they make sense when you swap them in a sentence
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The New Earth will be the universe and angels will have moved to their promised new heaven. Over eternity we make it a version of Eden.
Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
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While reading John 10... It dawned on me that possibly Jesus might be suggesting that others exist in the universe..


Read all of John 10 in different translations.. Then look at verse 16.. I'm not sure, but it poses thought for sure.

NIV Translation:
14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

KJV Translation:
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
 Quoting: abeliever


Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

This webpage

[link to www.amazingfacts.org (secure)]

"Bible" + "other worlds"

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

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Interesting in that Jehova's Witness believe there are Non-Christian/Witness who are chosen as well. So, perhaps that interpretation applies?
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John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


could be that there are many places we are not privy to
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This does.

Hebrews 1:2
Has in these last days spoken to us by His Son,
whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the Worlds;(plural)
 Psalm33:3                              Sing unto 'Him' a 'New Song'. Play 'SKILLFULLY' with a 'LOUD NOISE'.  
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Interesting in that Jehovah's Witness believe there are Non-Christian/Witness who are chosen as well. So, perhaps that interpretation applies?
 Quoting: pool


This former JW does a Bible study of the "other sheep" and sees that it is simply the Gentiles.

Here's various videos about "other sheep".

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


This video is by a former Jehovah's Witness. He comes to the conclusion that the "other sheep" are the Gentiles.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



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John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


could be that there are many places we are not privy to
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77634735


Your spirit is the mansion, and it needs to be prepared to hear his voice.
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While reading John 10... It dawned on me that possibly Jesus might be suggesting that others exist in the universe..


Read all of John 10 in different translations.. Then look at verse 16.. I'm not sure, but it poses thought for sure.

NIV Translation:
14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

KJV Translation:
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
 Quoting: abeliever


"My Father's House has many Mansions."

Some interpretations use the word Dimensions instead of Mansions.
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John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

could be that there are many places we are not privy to
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77634735


Your spirit is the mansion, and it needs to be prepared to hear his voice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77941283


Some folks & even theologians claim that God stopped speaking to folks at the end of the Apostolic age.

I disagree with that - and there are literally millions who would also disagree.

Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start...

Thread: Testimonies of Miracles Angels etc...proof of God / Yahuah & Son Jesus / Yeshua

The Father - who said to call Him Jehovah - told me to quit drinking 4 years ago. I did - and it proved to be accurate as my income during the next 3 years took a severe downturn.

Thread: Are You A "Recalled" Christian / Believer Of Father God & His Son Jesus?
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John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

could be that there are many places we are not privy to
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77634735


Your spirit is the mansion, and it needs to be prepared to hear his voice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77941283


Some folks & even theologians claim that God stopped speaking to folks at the end of the Apostolic age.

I disagree with that - and there are literally millions who would also disagree.

Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start...

Thread: Testimonies of Miracles Angels etc...proof of God / Yahuah & Son Jesus / Yeshua

The Father - who said to call Him Jehovah - told me to quit drinking 4 years ago. I did - and it proved to be accurate as my income during the next 3 years took a severe downturn.

Thread: Are You A "Recalled" Christian / Believer Of Father God & His Son Jesus?
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So God speaks to you huh?
That explains many things about your ridiculous ramblings.
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Re: Read John 10:16 - Does Jesus Suggest Other Worlds Exist?
Some folks & even theologians claim that God stopped speaking to folks at the end of the Apostolic age.

I disagree with that - and there are literally millions who would also disagree.

Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start...

Thread: Testimonies of Miracles Angels etc...proof of God / Yahuah & Son Jesus / Yeshua

The Father - who said to call Him Jehovah - told me to quit drinking 4 years ago. I did - and it proved to be accurate as my income during the next 3 years took a severe downturn.

Thread: Are You A "Recalled" Christian / Believer Of Father God & His Son Jesus?
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So God speaks to you huh?
That explains many things about your ridiculous ramblings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74604857


I'm surely NOT the only one - there are multi-millions MORE of us.

And since you can't even comprehend what happens in our various lives - it doesn't surprise me that you are in DENIAL of the truth of God and His Son.

I can only pray the either one of them will give you the "Paul treatment".

boom

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Re: Read John 10:16 - Does Jesus Suggest Other Worlds Exist?
He was referring to the Gentiles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73043062



Yes.. and yet is it also possible the are even more sheep pens?
 Quoting: abeliever


No





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