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Everything is deterministic. Free will is only an illusion.

 
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Everything is deterministic. Free will is only an illusion.
For those who don't know:

Any event that has ever occurred, and any choice you've ever made, was 100% predetermined.

Everything can be traced back to a previous cause, and the root cause of everything is God, who is the beginning (and the end - existing outside space and time).

You were always going to be who you are. Life was always going to play out this way.

You have no choice but to perpetually be yourself, and in doing so the illusion of free choice manifests. You act under your own predetermined volition.

Keep in mind - this does not excuse your actions.

Being able to discern right and wrong, and even knowing the Truth, means we are sufficiently warned and instructed how to live. As such, we have no excuse!


Just saying..

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Re: Everything is deterministic. Free will is only an illusion.
But people, or algorithm/ai cannot determine exactly 100% what you are going to do without knowing your exact chemical balance at any given time.
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Re: Everything is deterministic. Free will is only an illusion.
But people, or algorithm/ai cannot determine exactly 100% what you are going to do without knowing your exact chemical balance at any given time.
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One has to have 100% of all the information to determine the next event(s) with 100% accuracy.
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Re: Everything is deterministic. Free will is only an illusion.
But people, or algorithm/ai cannot determine exactly 100% what you are going to do without knowing your exact chemical balance at any given time.
 Quoting: John Locke


One has to have 100% of all the information to determine the next event(s) with 100% accuracy.
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The comment above is true. If we did know everything in the universe at this precise moment, we would know what is going to happen in the next moment. However, with our poor understanding of all of the information, we have to stumble along and just call it free will.
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Re: Everything is deterministic. Free will is only an illusion.
For those who don't know:

Any event that has ever occurred, and any choice you've ever made, was 100% predetermined.

Everything can be traced back to a previous cause, and the root cause of everything is God, who is the beginning (and the end - existing outside space and time).

You were always going to be who you are. Life was always going to play out this way.

You have no choice but to perpetually be yourself, and in doing so the illusion of free choice manifests. You act under your own predetermined volition.

Keep in mind - this does not excuse your actions.

Being able to discern right and wrong, and even knowing the Truth, means we are sufficiently warned and instructed how to live. As such, we have no excuse!


Just saying..
 Quoting: PLUR Police


Yes and no.

All possible alternatives or choices already exist. Therefore you do have free will to choose which one you will EXPERIENCE. Yes all possible choices are out there, but the ones you experience are up to you.

Therefore your statement is not entirely true. Life is not 100% pre-determined, it is up to you to decide which life you wish to experience, while they all exist at the same time. Time is an illusion, all that existed and will exist is already there, you just chose which one you want to live.
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Re: Everything is deterministic. Free will is only an illusion.
For those who don't know:

Any event that has ever occurred, and any choice you've ever made, was 100% predetermined.

Everything can be traced back to a previous cause, and the root cause of everything is God, who is the beginning (and the end - existing outside space and time).

You were always going to be who you are. Life was always going to play out this way.

You have no choice but to perpetually be yourself, and in doing so the illusion of free choice manifests. You act under your own predetermined volition.

Keep in mind - this does not excuse your actions.

Being able to discern right and wrong, and even knowing the Truth, means we are sufficiently warned and instructed how to live. As such, we have no excuse!


Just saying..
 Quoting: PLUR Police


Yes and no.

All possible alternatives or choices already exist. Therefore you do have free will to choose which one you will EXPERIENCE. Yes all possible choices are out there, but the ones you experience are up to you.

Therefore your statement is not entirely true. Life is not 100% pre-determined, it is up to you to decide which life you wish to experience, while they all exist at the same time. Time is an illusion, all that existed and will exist is already there, you just chose which one you want to live.
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But your 'choice' itself is predetermined. Something has caused you to make each individual thought and action. With 100% of the information, one could determine your entire existence beforehand.

God started the chain of events and therefore must know everything that comes after.

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