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UK Foreign Office denies claiming nerve agent from Russia

 
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Russia wanted a probe and the fucking "uk" denied it!

Q.e.d.
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Could be a faction of Russia government but nonetheless, if Russian government lost tracking and lost leftover supplies of this dangerous chemical, they are still responsible!. This also makes me think if they the Russian government lost track of this chemical, does that mean they could also lose track of deadly biological agents and/or nuclear that could be used for a nuclear weapon?
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Would be interesting if in some ways you're as much of a classical slimeball liberal or leftist as a lot of elite Russians were during its era as the Soviet Union. And still are in post-Soviet Russia.

Ironies abound in 2018.




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I have said from the beginning that it was not Russia. Well, I said that Putin himself did not order this assassination.

Interesting that they are now back-peddling. Bunch of fricking morons.

I do wonder if a faction within Russia stole the agent and then used it trying to start a war. That actually concerns the hell out of me. I was never worried about Putin. He is too busy making billions off of Russia. He doesn't want to upset that apple cart
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^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s a good possibility on that..

Some section of the Russian kgb mafia government had the chemical and using it to blame the main Russian government of Putin.

Very good on that proposal.

Idol1
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"Making Billions off Russia"... I switched off then
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Mostly undisclosed
See panama papers
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The ONLY bizarre behaviour so far has been exhibited by the UK.

They have flaunted standard protocols at every level and in every way and continue to do so, which is actually getting quite funny now.
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That's why the possibility subversive leftists in Russia are behind the plot is less likely than it being cooked up by UK's own libtards. People in either country whose idea of being honest and ethical is Hillary laughing while saying, "we came, we saw, he died."




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It is of course simply not possible to definitively proof who manufactured this from any chemical analysis, especially as Russia is not co-operating in any way with the UK to establish who did this - which kind of tells anyone straight away that they actually did do it.

Why did the Ruskies do it? - maybe they figured this spy or the UK broke some sort of agreement as to Skripals activities post release.

Maybe it was a KGB faction that resented his release and wanted to embarrass Putin.


Either way it is typical Russian KGB thug gangster 'don't give a fuck' behavior.
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Eh in what way can Russia not co- operate? They have offered their help in the investigation ( which was turned down), they have given evidence(backed up by the OPCW) that their Chemical weapons have been destroyed.

What else can they do?

Russia didn't do this, the narrative is falling apart.
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this.

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04/04/2018 03:36 PM
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Look its obvious some Russian element was involved and with all the intel provided there is no way the amount of countries involved would have backed the UK on a hunch.

Russia has also been playing silly games of smoke and mirrors but it cannot argue what the independent findings from the Chemical Warfare chaps in the Hague provide......they signed up to it for good ness sake.

I expect an impass with Russia in full denial but with the UK having evidence that on the balance of probabilities it was Russia but who in Russia or the Russian state is another matter which cannot/wont be proved.

So it'll be back to Bond Films with Russian Baddies and the like. It's 1985 all over again.
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It is of course simply not possible to definitively proof who manufactured this from any chemical analysis, especially as Russia is not co-operating in any way with the UK to establish who did this - which kind of tells anyone straight away that they actually did do it.

Why did the Ruskies do it? - maybe they figured this spy or the UK broke some sort of agreement as to Skripals activities post release.

Maybe it was a KGB faction that resented his release and wanted to embarrass Putin.


Either way it is typical Russian KGB thug gangster 'don't give a fuck' behavior.
 Quoting: Johnny Be Good


Eh in what way can Russia not co- operate? They have offered their help in the investigation ( which was turned down), they have given evidence(backed up by the OPCW) that their Chemical weapons have been destroyed.

What else can they do?

Russia didn't do this, the narrative is falling apart.
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this.

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and there you have it.
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It is of course simply not possible to definitively proof who manufactured this from any chemical analysis, especially as Russia is not co-operating in any way with the UK to establish who did this - which kind of tells anyone straight away that they actually did do it.

Why did the Ruskies do it? - maybe they figured this spy or the UK broke some sort of agreement as to Skripals activities post release.

Maybe it was a KGB faction that resented his release and wanted to embarrass Putin.


Either way it is typical Russian KGB thug gangster 'don't give a fuck' behavior.
 Quoting: Johnny Be Good


Eh in what way can Russia not co- operate? They have offered their help in the investigation ( which was turned down), they have given evidence(backed up by the OPCW) that their Chemical weapons have been destroyed.

What else can they do?

Russia didn't do this, the narrative is falling apart.
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this.

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With the total elimination of Russia’s DECLARED chemical weapons programme.....

epiclol
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04/04/2018 03:40 PM
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*backpeddling now
With "in all probability"

Should have noted confidence
To begin with
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Shitty UK fucktards.
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Re: UK Foreign Office denies claiming nerve agent from Russia
I have said from the beginning that it was not Russia. Well, I said that Putin himself did not order this assassination.

Interesting that they are now back-peddling. Bunch of fricking morons.

I do wonder if a faction within Russia stole the agent and then used it trying to start a war. That actually concerns the hell out of me. I was never worried about Putin. He is too busy making billions off of Russia. He doesn't want to upset that apple cart
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s a good possibility on that..

Some section of the Russian kgb mafia government had the chemical and using it to blame the main Russian government of Putin.

Very good on that proposal.

Idol1
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"Making Billions off Russia"... I switched off then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39146529


Mostly undisclosed
See panama papers
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Is that it? I had hoped for better, and yes I have seen them, as has most of the world...Yawn!
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04/04/2018 03:47 PM
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The biger the lie, deeper the level of shit they er falling int0!

Lies everywhere!

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04/04/2018 03:50 PM
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Taking intel from an agency
That is obviously compromised
Should become your focus

Both australia and england leaders
Should/must stand down

Too much is at stake and
Theres been too much mismanagement
Regardless of polls
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Shitty UK fucktards.
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It seems the usual German arsehole has an opinion on the UK
Go fuck yourself and whats left of your country,we aint helping you next time Russia rolls over you.
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The biger the lie, deeper the level of shit they er falling int0!

Lies everywhere!

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There is a good chance there is a rogue element in Russia trying to stir up shit.

Problem is believing that there has been other previous cases of Russian Srate Involvement so unless Russia provides credible evidence it wasnt them....which would be the natural thing to do in such serious circumstances the finger will be pointed at them.
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Cui bono?

Why would Russia use such an obvious method of killing someone? An acident or a heartattack would be way easier and less traceable.
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The biger the lie, deeper the level of shit they er falling int0!

Lies everywhere!

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There is a good chance there is a rogue element in Russia trying to stir up shit.

Problem is believing that there has been other previous cases of Russian Srate Involvement so unless Russia provides credible evidence it wasnt them....which would be the natural thing to do in such serious circumstances the finger will be pointed at them.
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Innocent untill proven guilty!

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^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s a good possibility on that..

Some section of the Russian kgb mafia government had the chemical and using it to blame the main Russian government of Putin.

Very good on that proposal.

Idol1
 Quoting: Outer limits 75988962


"Making Billions off Russia"... I switched off then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39146529


Mostly undisclosed
See panama papers
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Is that it? I had hoped for better, and yes I have seen them, as has most of the world...Yawn!
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Its has taken a team of
More than a 100 global investigators
For a year and some
To browse a fraction of the data
You simply
Have no idea
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Shitty UK fucktards.
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It seems the usual German arsehole has an opinion on the UK
Go fuck yourself and whats left of your country,we aint helping you next time Russia rolls over you.
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we shouldnt be helping anyone in the near future, not without sorting out our mess first, i think everyone would rather be invaded than have the fucked up mess called britain as your back up.
remove those in charge now or we forever face embarressment.
Not only that half the population isnt even british, and most of our laws we obide by are to protect the foreign citizens rather than our own.

How can we be of service to anyone else, when our own cannot service the country correctly?
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^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s a good possibility on that..

Some section of the Russian kgb mafia government had the chemical and using it to blame the main Russian government of Putin.

Very good on that proposal.

Idol1
 Quoting: Outer limits 75988962


"Making Billions off Russia"... I switched off then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39146529


Mostly undisclosed
See panama papers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75794524


Is that it? I had hoped for better, and yes I have seen them, as has most of the world...Yawn!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39146529


Back in 2005 I knew for a fact that Putin had a guy come every morning to his door with a briefcase with $1,000,000 in cash to his doorstep. EVERY day and that was for just one oil company doing business in Russia. There were others as well.

Putin's net worth is 70 BILLION plus. No one really knows just how much actually but over 70 Billion for sure.

So yes, he is making billions off of Russia. That is a FACT and I have personal knowledge of this
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They know it was the Russians than did it. They just can’t tell if the nerve agent was made in Russia.

They’ve obviously got a mole in the Kremlin and don’t want to reveal how they know...
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I like Putin's response.
We don’t want apologies, we want common sense to triumph

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Even Trump said that the UK had the evidence lol...this is beyond shame. cruise
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Its beyond retarded too. What a bunch of sinister buffoons.
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especially as Russia is not co-operating in any way with the UK to establish who did this
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Can you verify that?

Beyond that, if you're politically of the left or are in the nebulous middle (which means mainly a closeted libtard in today's era), I wouldn't trust a thing you say, claim or believe.




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What a simpleton you are. Who gives a fk what you trust or believe!
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Cui bono?

Why would Russia use such an obvious method of killing someone? An acident or a heartattack would be way easier and less traceable.
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It was a bungling idiot ff
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The police knew within a couple of hours the movement of two comatosed individuals on a park bench.
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Conflicting stories on how it happened I posted on the original thread that the UK was going to end up in an embarrassing situation... Prime Minister no one asked for stirring shit.
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Was it novichok or not....for what i kn ow it could come from putin ass...was it russian stockpile or stuf stolen back in 1990?
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Cui bono?

Why would Russia use such an obvious method of killing someone? An acident or a heartattack would be way easier and less traceable.
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It was a bungling idiot ff
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sounds like CIA again.

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Re: UK Foreign Office denies claiming nerve agent from Russia
It is of course simply not possible to definitively proof who manufactured this from any chemical analysis, especially as Russia is not co-operating in any way with the UK to establish who did this - which kind of tells anyone straight away that they actually did do it.

Why did the Ruskies do it? - maybe they figured this spy or the UK broke some sort of agreement as to Skripals activities post release.

Maybe it was a KGB faction that resented his release and wanted to embarrass Putin.


Either way it is typical Russian KGB thug gangster 'don't give a fuck' behavior.



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Whatever you say Agent Blowcock.
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The ONLY bizarre behaviour so far has been exhibited by the UK.

They have flaunted standard protocols at every level and in every way and continue to do so, which is actually getting quite funny now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39146529



could be he wanted to defect to Russia and the only way to stop him was to kill him and set the stage to blame Russia. That way if Russia said to the news the UK killed him they would be the baddies, effectively illegal kill and hiding their evil asses.





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