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What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?

 
Nefarious Libertine
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What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Just curious with all the planned protests and the Chief of the NG of DC being removed from duty after the troops deploy for security to the inauguration.
What are the procedures to be followed? Does pence become President? What if Trump and Pence are assassinated at the same time? What happens then?
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?


They call Hillary out of retirement.
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Secret Service has been notified.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Already confirmed January 6th. Pence is the new president for 4 years.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Already confirmed January 6th. Pence is the new president for 4 years.
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So hes already been sworn in? No way Obama could pull any bullshit?
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Already confirmed January 6th. Pence is the new president for 4 years.
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So hes already been sworn in? No way Obama could pull any bullshit?
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


pence would become acting president-elect until he is sworn in as president on the 20th. he would then choose a VP for confirmation.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Already confirmed January 6th. Pence is the new president for 4 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73733178


So hes already been sworn in? No way Obama could pull any bullshit?
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Well, that's what Obama is good at. Pulling himself.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Already confirmed January 6th. Pence is the new president for 4 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73733178


So hes already been sworn in? No way Obama could pull any bullshit?
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


pence would become acting president-elect until he is sworn in as president on the 20th. he would then choose a VP for confirmation.
 Quoting: BRYinTX


That's what I'm wondering. If Pence and Trump are together and both get taken out then what happens?

Trump and the Intelligence community are going at it. Democunt Schumer has stated that it's very stupid to take on the Intelligence community. Kennedy was the last President to do so and see what happened there.
Plus trump talking peace with Russia is very bad for the military industrial complex. They like wars all around.
He's making powerful enemies in the deep state.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Just curious with all the planned protests and the Chief of the NG of DC being removed from duty after the troops deploy for security to the inauguration.
What are the procedures to be followed? Does pence become President? What if Trump and Pence are assassinated at the same time? What happens then?
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Pence would become president. He would then pick his own vp.If something happened to Pence and Mr.T the speaker of the house rat boy Paul Ryan would be in.
Read the u.s. constitution. Join the ranks of real patriots.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
Just curious with all the planned protests and the Chief of the NG of DC being removed from duty after the troops deploy for security to the inauguration.
What are the procedures to be followed? Does pence become President? What if Trump and Pence are assassinated at the same time? What happens then?
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Pence would become president. He would then pick his own vp.If something happened to Pence and Mr.T the speaker of the house rat boy Paul Ryan would be in.
Read the u.s. constitution. Join the ranks of real patriots.
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I've read the constitution before and know the lines of succession, what I wasn't sure if that applied to a president elect before the oath of office or only to a standing president.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
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A United States presidential transition is the transfer of federal executive branch power from the incumbent President of the United States to the president-elect, during the period of time between election day in November (on the first Tuesday after November 1), and inauguration day on the following January 20. At its heart, a single step—taking the presidential oath of office—accomplishes this transfer.


So... If both President and Vice President do not get to take the Oath of office the transfer of power does not happen and Obama does indeed stay a standing president.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
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A United States presidential transition is the transfer of federal executive branch power from the incumbent President of the United States to the president-elect, during the period of time between election day in November (on the first Tuesday after November 1), and inauguration day on the following January 20. At its heart, a single step—taking the presidential oath of office—accomplishes this transfer.


So... If both President and Vice President do not get to take the Oath of office the transfer of power does not happen and Obama does indeed stay a standing president.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


The oath at this point is a mere formality. .If neither makes it though Paul Ryan would be in.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
America will have a Civil War. That's what will happen.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
If Pence and Trump were both taken out, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan would take the oath on the 20th to become the President.

There is a long list that makes up the
United States presidential line of succession

Here's a list thru the 17th person on the list.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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If Pence and Trump were both taken out, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan would take the oath on the 20th to become the President.

There is a long list that makes up the
United States presidential line of succession

Here's a list thru the 17th person on the list.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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You must change all those names to their Republican equals for the purpose of THIS discussion.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
If Pence and Trump were both taken out, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan would take the oath on the 20th to become the President.

There is a long list that makes up the
United States presidential line of succession

Here's a list thru the 17th person on the list.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46203133


You must change all those names to their Republican equals for the purpose of THIS discussion.
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But there is NO scenario whereby any Democrat would become President on the 20th.
Trump won and line of succession is him, Pence, Ryan, etc.
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A United States presidential transition is the transfer of federal executive branch power from the incumbent President of the United States to the president-elect, during the period of time between election day in November (on the first Tuesday after November 1), and inauguration day on the following January 20. At its heart, a single step—taking the presidential oath of office—accomplishes this transfer.


So... If both President and Vice President do not get to take the Oath of office the transfer of power does not happen and Obama does indeed stay a standing president.
 Quoting: Nefarious Libertine


Also the constitution specifically sets term limits on the executive seat so if obummer did try to pull a move off like that he would be in direct violation.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
After Trump is impeached, led by Republicans, late this year or early next, Pence will become president.
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Re: What Happens if a President Elect is Assassinated before taking the Oath?
There is no scenario where Obama and Biden would continue in office, nor where Hilkary Clinton would come in, because the election has been held, Trump/Pence won, and Obama/Biden two term limit ends on January 20, therefore only the Trump/Pence line of succession would apply.





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