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If I cannot accept forgiveness will I always fail as a Christian? (Serious, life or death question)

 
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Woe to them who call evil Good and Good Evil who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter
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Op this is A Good thing that You don't feel or believe you are forgiven it tells me G-d is working in you leading you to repentance
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For those who come back to this thread I finally realized that my greatest sin in all of this is my sin of PRIDE! I have set myself up before and against the Most High God by declaring that my sins are 'too great and too many to be forgiven'. This is a lie from the devil. It is not piety nor humility but PRIDE. I am also making a FALSE GOD out of the Lord by claiming to know His Will when I am LEANING ON MY OWN UNDERSTANDING. His thoughts are NOT my thoughts. His ways are not MY ways. He is merciful and just and His Word is TRUE and I HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN. Now I will work on my sins by TRUSTING IN HIM AND HIS GRACE WHICH IS SUFFICIENT FOR ME. Thank you to all who helped me realize this.
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Man I hope you don't think you can do whatever you want and get away with it because YOU CANT . THE ETERNAL ONE BLESSED BE HE SPOKE Something out of nothing !! Are you telling me A work of repentance towards Your sins can't be done ? I tell you that you can walk in Freedom!
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Man I hope you don't think you can do whatever you want and get away with it because YOU CANT . THE ETERNAL ONE BLESSED BE HE SPOKE Something out of nothing !! Are you telling me A work of repentance towards Your sins can't be done ? I tell you that you can walk in Freedom!
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I don't think that at all, Foy.

I believe it can be done.

I just don't know how.

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Your not required to forgive yourself, that is God's job not yours. Seek out, what is your job, and fulfil it, and you will be forgiven.

Listen to the Word's of Christ, in the Book of Matthew, when he speaks of forgiveness. Do not be wise or think yourself intelligent, but crawl as a newborn, and you will know what is required of you.
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Every pastor I've ever tried to talk to or confide in and get guidance from has told me I have to forgive myself.

Am I listening to false teachers?
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OP, are you continuing in some sin in your life?
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


Yes, I am. I hate my sin but I don't hate it enough to stop sinning. I mean I'd be lying if I said I didn't love my sinful nature in some way. I have to be honest with myself and be honest in front of God. I have confessed all this before. But I cannot STOP sinning by my own strength. The more I try, the more I sin; the less I try, the less I sin.
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By being honest with Jesus, then He will take this affliction from you. You are too weak to overpower this temptation by yourself. It is not about willpower of quitting. It is believing that the Lord will take this affliction away from you. Let the Holy Spirit guide you and you ask the Lord to take away this affliction from your life....
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"What I CANNOT believe, no matter how hard I try to bring myself to accept this - is that a wretch such as myself could be forgiven. "

If we confess our sins the Father is faithful and just to forgive us 1 John 1:9

If we refuse to forgive ourselves for our confessed sins we are saying we know better than God

We are agreeing rather with the enemy.

So we must forgive ourselves to line ourselves up with God
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We all sin every day op. We confess our sins and come back into fellowship

Love covers a multitude of sins. Overcome evil with good.
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Man I hope you don't think you can do whatever you want and get away with it because YOU CANT . THE ETERNAL ONE BLESSED BE HE SPOKE Something out of nothing !! Are you telling me A work of repentance towards Your sins can't be done ? I tell you that you can walk in Freedom!
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I don't think that at all, Foy.

I believe it can be done.

I just don't know how.

"Make every effort to present yourself approved to God, an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15
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If you Believe you are halfway already !! you have done everything in your knowledge before and still failed this tells you you still don't know how to stop the sin behavior . As the Bible says " My People Are destroyed By lack of Knowledge " my advice to you is to meditate on the Torah day and Night
Cultivate a Deeper relationship with G-d and don't be To discouraged if you fall again for a righteous man may Fall but they always get back up . G-d sends hevenly help to those who come to purify them selfs before him may your help be doubled tonight
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For those who come back to this thread I finally realized that my greatest sin in all of this is my sin of PRIDE! I have set myself up before and against the Most High God by declaring that my sins are 'too great and too many to be forgiven'. This is a lie from the devil. It is not piety nor humility but PRIDE. I am also making a FALSE GOD out of the Lord by claiming to know His Will when I am LEANING ON MY OWN UNDERSTANDING. His thoughts are NOT my thoughts. His ways are not MY ways. He is merciful and just and His Word is TRUE and I HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN. Now I will work on my sins by TRUSTING IN HIM AND HIS GRACE WHICH IS SUFFICIENT FOR ME. Thank you to all who helped me realize this.
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Be blessed!

Peace

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Actually, the individuals telling you that you needed to work on forgiving yourself were giving you solid and appropriate advice.

If you do not generate forgiveness within yourself and for yourself - you will never truly FEEL that someone else (or a higher power) has forgiven you... You can read over and over again that you are forgiven, and people can tell you over and over again that you are forgiven - but until you learn to cultivate forgiveness within yourself (within your own consciousness), only then will you genuinely feel it and be able to experience a degree of inner peace over this matter.

This is analogous to when an individual hates and rejects himself and doesn't feel any healthy degree of self acceptance . That person cannot fully open up to the love/acceptance (for him) coming from another because he does not feel that way about himself. He does not view himself in that light so he cannot integrate that energy/emotion coming from an external source... It's like there is a blockage that it's place and it needs to be cleared.

So the reason that you struggle to feel that a higher power can/will forgive you or has forgiven you is because you need to make greater progress finding forgiveness for yourself. You will find that as you increasingly cultivate/generate feelings of forgiveness within your state of consciousness - the more open you will be and the more natural it will feel that such forgiveness could be extended to you from another source...
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His ways are not MY ways. He is merciful and just and His Word is TRUE and I HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN.

Publican, I think that's great!

Yes, you have been forgiven by God!

Have you forgiven yourself? (that's where this all started).
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For those who come back to this thread I finally realized that my greatest sin in all of this is my sin of PRIDE!
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It usually is. We all struggle with this. And it's probably pride that has also prevented you from confessing and confronting the habitual sin you have. It sucks to have to tell others what you're struggling with and that you need help. It's extraordinarily humbling.
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God was in christ not counting mens sins against them
He has made peace with all things in heaven and on eRth by the blood of his cross

If we confess our sins he is faithul and just to forgive us our sins
And the blood of jesus cleanses us from all sin
And not our sins only but the sins of the whole world

Bible verses
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Man I hope you don't think you can do whatever you want and get away with it because YOU CANT . THE ETERNAL ONE BLESSED BE HE SPOKE Something out of nothing !! Are you telling me A work of repentance towards Your sins can't be done ? I tell you that you can walk in Freedom!
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I don't think that at all, Foy.

I believe it can be done.

I just don't know how.

"Make every effort to present yourself approved to God, an unashamed workman who accurately handles the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15
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Start with jesus and go from there
Dont expect yourself to be a super apostle
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There are a lot of us like you. You'll have your chance.
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Dear Poster:

Thank you for posting. I've enjoyed reading all the faithful replies.

The instinctual 'human' mind cannot always distinguish between reality and virtual reality. This is known in psychology.

When you practice to CONSTANTLY remember all your old and forgiven sins, you are re-living each and every one of them again. Your brain will not know you are only remembering. Your brain cannot tell the difference between a memory and reality.In essence, you are correct, that you are doing this to yourself.

There is an old adage to forgive and forget. Forgetting is very important in the forgiveness process.

If you had a very bad dream, would you constantly think about it for days and weeks? If you did, you would be reliving that dream over and over without relief. You would be entraining your brain to not be present in reality and to be only stuck in memory. What do we say when we've had a bad dream? "Oh thank God, it was only a dream and not real!"

Give yourself permission to be forgiven according to your faith in Jesus. Do practice owning your memories & (emotions) and not recalling the past all the time. Your past is no longer real in real time reality. When you start to recall your past, replace this activity with positive and loving thoughts and prayer. Tell yourself with authority that this is no longer real! This is over. It is a bad dream and you are letting it go!

Do Have a happy thought trigger that you can go to that makes you really happy. Have a happy memory that you can substitute when you start to be surrounded by the dark dogs of memory.

Be Present in the Lord... (no memories involved) with the Lord! Rejoice! And, KNOW that I Am God.

God bless you. I am praying for you. God bless you.
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Your not required to forgive yourself, that is God's job not yours. Seek out, what is your job, and fulfil it, and you will be forgiven.

Listen to the Word's of Christ, in the Book of Matthew, when he speaks of forgiveness. Do not be wise or think yourself intelligent, but crawl as a newborn, and you will know what is required of you.
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Every pastor I've ever tried to talk to or confide in and get guidance from has told me I have to forgive myself.

Am I listening to false teachers?
 Quoting: Publican


Before you will be able to forgive yourself, you must first learn to LOVE yourself. That, my friend, is THE most difficult task any of us will ever have to face.

"Love your neighbour as thyself" Bible

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it's really ok. you don't really have to forgive your self because no one goes to your imaginary hell. what you need to do is affermations every night before you go to bed so that you can change your negative consciousness. something you appear to admit. statrt with.
I love myself
I live life fearlessly
I live a life of humor, laughter, and joy.
I appreciate my life
I embrace my uniqueness.
you must do this every day until your sub conscious mind starts to believe you. in your case...
well you know yourself better than I do
a minimum of one month, but best to make it a life long habit. a bit like self hypnosis
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Hey man, here are a few things to look at:

Pastor or Liar? Any pastor or teacher that is salaried preaches for money... he / she is lead by the money. So, yeah, false prophets. This doesn't mean that if you ask for advice from a person of God that you shouldn't pay them for their time. Before God you absolutely must. But you will know them, because they will never ask, and will never accept a paid position to teach the things of God.

Every single writer in the New Testament warns over and over about false teachers. It is an enormous message that is never (of course) covered in a typical church sermon.

Do good that God may love you The Bible never says to resist sin. Run away from sin, yes. Resist the adversary (Satan), yes. Pray always, yes. Keep your mind focused on perfect, beautiful, good things, yes.

So... to stop sinning, start focusing on the good, pray and meditate... like... you know, meditation where you quiet yourself and listen. Not the the universe or the inner what not, but to God. Do some yoga or take a walk in the park or... whatever it takes for you to still yourself. Then pray and listen. Make this a common thing that you do.

Netflix "Kindgom of Heaven"... I love this movie.

Learn what really is right and what really is wrong There are a lot of things that the church (the false prophet) says are sin.... that are not. And of course many things that the false prophet says are good, that are not. I am not saying to violate your understanding of right and wrong, but I am saying to carefully pray about each thing that you believe to be wrong, and try to find how it is wring from the Bible and from the insight of the Spirit.
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Oh yeah,

There is no need to forgive yourself. The stuff you did was awful... that wont change.

Jesus says, pray like this:

...forgive me my sins as I forgive others when they sin against me...

In other words, you have to let your creator forgive you. And you have to be manic about forgiving anything anyone did, does or will do against you. Let that be your focus.
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I don't just forgive my enemies.

I learn to see myself in them.

I see that I am no better or worse.

That I cannot judge them. But rather, through Christ, I learn to love them and pray for them and hope that they be saved and find the peace of the Lord in their hearts.

I have had to forgive and learn to love MANY enemies in my life.

I fail and slip up from time to time.

I can be too prideful, too arrogant, too unforgiving.

But the Lord always corrects this in me and I learn to forgive and to love.
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That's grand stuff - sounds like you're totally on the right track. One thing I was shown a long time ago was that the directive to forgive my enemies includes a call to forgive myself. We're sometimes prone to hold animosity towards ourselves just like we do towards other people who wrong us (or whom we merely perceive to have wronged us).

The awareness of our imperfection is symbolized in the camel hair tunic John the Baptist wore. It's an uncomfortable weave, irritating the skin and physically mimicking a pricked conscience. This stage is totally part of the program, and yes you will get past it. Sounds like you're learning, you're sensitive, and you're in tune. Best advice would be to simply learn to relax - get accustomed to being accepted because the "old you" whom you despise is a dead creature. But he won't accept that, so ironically he fights to remain on our internal "throne" which rightly belongs to Jesus. Renewing the mind, retraining our outlook doesn't happen overnight, not for most of us.

This statement may sound a little "new agey", but the battle you're fighting is more or less an illusion. Christ is being formed in us - a reproduction of Himself. . .and the stuff you're dealing with will eventually seem like a mere hiccup of infancy.

There's a classic allegory novel called Hinds Feet on High Places which I recommend. . .it's a great look at this journey of change we're called to.
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Exactly....it is a journey with Jesus. You do not need a teacher or preacher outside of God the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit.

2 Timothy 2:15

2If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. 14Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Talk with Jesus about forgiving yourself....it is the same as forgiving others who have wronged you, brotherhf
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We all come here as an empty vessel which is involuntarily filled with lies, hate, misinformation, revenge and so on. Then our bodies simply act upon that programming which is highly to impossible to rid ourselves of. This is why we must forgive. They know not what they do, who they are, why they are here, nor what to do while here. Lost souls in a negatively programmed body. Few overcome it, and we are not here to hinder them, but to help. And the first step is forgiveness.
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Forgiveness of your brothers is a POWER given to you.

What better person to forgive a brother who repents than you who was a big sinner.

Love covers a multitude of sins.
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Believing and not doing will not save you. That's why you feel empty. You've unwittingly subscribed to a dead faith that doesn't save. You believe THEN you start to live out what you believe KNOWING that the Lord is the One working in you to do His will. When you keep calling yourself a sinner over and over again AFTER you've been saved you're rejecting the gift of salvation. You've been made righteous that's why you should live everyday looking for opportunities to PRACTICE righteousness, all the while giving all the glory to God.
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I will be doing my best to moderate this thread. I'm at my wits end and I need to find an answer to this problem - and soon!

I believe, by faith, that Jesus Christ (or Yahushua ha Moshiach - no, His name wasn't Jesus but I also don't claim to know the proper spelling either as I've seen many variations) is my Lord and Savior.

I believe, by faith, that He died for the sins of the world.

I believe, by faith, that He was crucified, died and was buried and on the third day rose from the dead in fulfillment of the scriptures.

I believe, by faith, that He is the Son of God and IS God.

I believe, by faith, that He is coming again to judge the living and the dead and that His kingdom will have no end.

I believe in God's Word that says that if I confess with my mouth that "Jesus is Lord" and believe that God raised Him from the dead then I will be saved.

I have studied the Scriptures so many times. Front and back. I read the Bible. I meditate on His word. I pray. I try my absolute best to walk according to the Scriptures.

What I CANNOT believe, no matter how hard I try to bring myself to accept this - is that a wretch such as myself could be forgiven.

I KNOW that this sets me apart from God and shows that I am 'leaning on my own understanding' and some have even said that refusing to forgive myself is trying to make myself out to be God by saying that 'I know better than He does'. I understand why some would suggest this.

I know I am sick. I know that I am a sinner. There is scarce a sin that exists in the hearts and minds of the wicked that I have not done or thought about doing at some point. I am a sinner of the highest order. I know that I NEED a savior. I NEED to be forgiven and to receive salvation and grace.

But if I cannot ever forgive myself and truly accept and believe, by faith, that I am forgiven and washed in the Blood of the Lamb; of Jesus Christ; then HOW can I ever live a successful Christian life?

Why do I remain so empty?

Am I doomed? Am I forever lost?

Or is this spiritual warfare?

If I cannot ever earn my way into Heaven except to live BY FAITH and to accept the FREE GIFT of Grace through Jesus Christ then WHY would I need to forgive myself anyway?

Wouldn't Jesus or God understand me that I cannot forgive myself so that His forgiveness would be sufficient, just as His grace is sufficient for me?

People tell me all the time that if I can't ever forgive myself then I will never be saved.

Oh well.

If I wind up in Hell then, as David says in Psalm 139:8, "if I make my bed in Hell, behold Thou art there."
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This IS spiritual warfare, Satan convinces us of our sin and judges us to damnation. Remember that he goes before God to accuse us. You've already been forgiven. Don't let Satan convince that you are bound for hell. A whole bunch of us sinners will be right next to you in Heaven. Will we be ashamed? Most likely, but that's because His goodness extends beyond our understanding. Also remember, Satan knows his time is short and he's here to attack us from all directions.

I've also noticed something with Satan. He likes to attack us right before we do something great for God or before we come upon wisdom. Keep that in mind. God Bless you and keep you! I will be praying for you.
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No, it is appropriate to always keep in mind that we don't deserve Christ's mercy. We sinners each deserve crucifixion for our failures. Perfect Jesus paid the price for us. Eternal humility for unmerited grace is right and good.
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No, it is appropriate to always keep in mind that we don't deserve Christ's mercy. We sinners each deserve crucifixion for our failures. Perfect Jesus paid the price for us. Eternal humility for unmerited grace is right and good.
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"Eternal humility for unmerited grace is right and good."

Attacks from all directions.

You are free from your sin. Jesus could have walked away knowing what was coming. But... He... Didn't. He chose to walk straight forward. He walked straight forward seeing all of our faces. It was so overwhelming. He even asked God to take it from Him but He was ready to do it in order to save us or we would be lost. He kept walking. He never gave up on any of us. He let them brutalize Him for our sake.

That's why they hate us so much. Because He is inside of us. Because they can't understand a love that is willing to endure the entolerable just to save us. Because they can't understand why someone would give themselves up for another.

Stop going to this website. Start reading your Bible. Download the Bible App. Make it a priority everyday; you will see.
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Your not required to forgive yourself, that is God's job not yours. Seek out, what is your job, and fulfil it, and you will be forgiven.

Listen to the Word's of Christ, in the Book of Matthew, when he speaks of forgiveness. Do not be wise or think yourself intelligent, but crawl as a newborn, and you will know what is required of you.
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Every pastor I've ever tried to talk to or confide in and get guidance from has told me I have to forgive myself.

Am I listening to false teachers?
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No, because if you do not accept your own forgiveness of yourself, how will you accept anyone else's (God's)?
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Every pastor I've ever tried to talk to or confide in and get guidance from has told me I have to forgive myself.

Am I listening to false teachers?
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OP, are you continuing in some sin in your life?
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


Yes, I am. I hate my sin but I don't hate it enough to stop sinning. I mean I'd be lying if I said I didn't love my sinful nature in some way. I have to be honest with myself and be honest in front of God. I have confessed all this before. But I cannot STOP sinning by my own strength. The more I try, the more I sin; the less I try, the less I sin.
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I guess I should clarify. We are all sinners. We will all continue to sin in this life. Some more than others, however.

Is there a specific and habitual sin you know you must cease but are not taking steps to remedy?
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


Yes, because if you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing.





GLP