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Remember the parable about the weeds and wheat? So many churches today have not been planted by God and will be uprooted and cast into the fire. So many false Christians teaching unbiblical lies. Do you believe the great apostasy is here? So many people have been decieved into believing that they have the holy spirit within them. What I have learned is that the spirit gives eternal life and that the road to life is narrow. Few shall find it. Those with the spirit are the children of God who inherit the promises of God. I have also learned that there are several sins that lead to death but not all of them. Scripture teaches that those who commit sins that lead to death do not inherit life. Therefore they do not have the spirit that gives life. They are not children of God. They are the enemies of God. Children of the devil. Remember, without holiness, no one shall see God. For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but those who believe shall see Gods glory. Those who believe no longer fall short of the glory of God. Jesus himself said those who believe shall see Gods glory. Moses saw Gods glory and so shall you, if you believe.

If a murderer does not have eternal life in him, neither does a liar. Therefore all heretics will inherit the lake of fire. They do not have the spirit of God within them. Neither do the sexual immoral. There are many people within the church who are within unlawful marriages. They are given into adultery. If your spouse is not dead, should you be with someone else? Did they commit fornication? How many of you are in unlawful marriages? Adulterers do not have the holy spirit of God. Neither do magic practitioners, idolators, or cowards. Do you love money? Have you sold your possessions and given to the poor as Jesus requested? Are you greedy? The greedy love the world and those who love the world are the enemies of God. So please, do not let these people fool you. They do not have the holy spirit.

God keeps a covenant of love with those who love him and will repay those who hate him to their faces. Those who love him keep the commandments. They have his spirit. Those who hate him don't keep the commandments. They do not have the spirit. God hates all workers of iniquity and those who love violence but loved the world enough to sacrifice his son for its sins. Now the enemies of God can become the friends of God. Cleansed by the blood of Christ. Forgiven and redeemed.
Please, if we have not yet repented, we need to do so. As a result, if you come across a heretic, warn them twice as the bible commands. They do not have the spirit therefore they do not know the full truth and cannot save you. They create sons of hell just like those before them.
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Please, if we have not yet repented, we need to do so.
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How exactly are people who are out of communion with Him supposed to do this, considering Jesus said "Apart from Me, you can do nothing"?
It's catch-22. . either that, or we're appealing to the wrong party on this thing ;)
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Please, if we have not yet repented, we need to do so.
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How exactly are people who are out of communion with Him supposed to do this, considering Jesus said "Apart from Me, you can do nothing"?
It's catch-22. . either that, or we're appealing to the wrong party on this thing ;)
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Out of communion with him? As in those who do not seek first his kingdom and his righteousness? The true church should be seeking to save that which is lost. They can help them. I started seeking God because of a dream. The dream reminded me of a prophecy of the last days. The world on fire..
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The apostasy is salvation without the Holy Spirit (the baptism of Christ; Matthew 3:11, 1 Peter 4:12) and without Works. (Matthew 25/Isaiah 58)

On that basis Christianity has always been apostasy.

This is the same trap as the Israelites, trying to earn the Holy Spirit/salvation at death with pseudo flesh based righteousness (except Christians don't really follow the commandments of Moses let alone Jesus). (Romans 11) Best case scenario is you come back and do it again if you don't do it during tribulation; worst case scenario is damnation.

The reason why is because the baptism of Christ (fiery trial) is the conversion of the flesh (translation of JOB 40) and the remission of sins (what "Christians" call grace). The grace is that you can do it and the blood of Christ washes them clean from your soul through partaking of the sufferings of Christ (meaning physical pain internally; like a crucifixion).

Who has the possibility for salvation in the world? Those who are being "gang stalked" that's what it is when you are woken up. Of course you can go the other way (Matthew 25) the left hand path but that results in damnation.

I don't see much that Christians say that will actually lead anyone to salvation but for the "narrow path" mentioned. They never mention the things in Romans 6 or Mark 10:38 (baptized with the baptism I am baptized with) nor do they contemplate these things because they're content with hedging their bets for their iniquity. "Hey my pastor said it was cool for me to do what I want as long as I repent at some point"...yeah it is okay if you want to come back and be a puppet for satan all over again.

You literally repeat events from the past in the current without the Holy Spirit. It is bizarre.
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The apostasy is salvation without the Holy Spirit (the baptism of Christ; Matthew 3:11, 1 Peter 4:12) and without Works. (Matthew 25/Isaiah 58)

On that basis Christianity has always been apostasy.

This is the same trap as the Israelites, trying to earn the Holy Spirit/salvation at death with pseudo flesh based righteousness (except Christians don't really follow the commandments of Moses let alone Jesus). (Romans 11) Best case scenario is you come back and do it again if you don't do it during tribulation; worst case scenario is damnation.

The reason why is because the baptism of Christ (fiery trial) is the conversion of the flesh (translation of JOB 40) and the remission of sins (what "Christians" call grace). The grace is that you can do it and the blood of Christ washes them clean from your soul through partaking of the sufferings of Christ (meaning physical pain internally; like a crucifixion).

Who has the possibility for salvation in the world? Those who are being "gang stalked" that's what it is when you are woken up. Of course you can go the other way (Matthew 25) the left hand path but that results in damnation.

I don't see much that Christians say that will actually lead anyone to salvation but for the "narrow path" mentioned. They never mention the things in Romans 6 or Mark 10:38 (baptized with the baptism I am baptized with) nor do they contemplate these things because they're content with hedging their bets for their iniquity. "Hey my pastor said it was cool for me to do what I want as long as I repent at some point"...yeah it is okay if you want to come back and be a puppet for satan all over again.

You literally repeat events from the past in the current without the Holy Spirit. It is bizarre.
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I know what I have to do but I fail constantly. Only by the grace of God can I overcome my vices and sins, it seems.
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The Great Apostasy, started with the Roman Catholic/Orthodox Catholic, Churches. Now, it is just reaching the final conclusion, of the end result, of the destruction of the Churches of the Apostles.
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The Great Apostasy, started with the Roman Catholic/Orthodox Catholic, Churches. Now, it is just reaching the final conclusion, of the end result, of the destruction of the Churches of the Apostles.
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The apostasy is salvation without the Holy Spirit (the baptism of Christ; Matthew 3:11, 1 Peter 4:12) and without Works. (Matthew 25/Isaiah 58)

On that basis Christianity has always been aposet.

This is the same trap as the Israelites, trying to erae Holy Spirit/salvation at death with pseudo flesh based righteousness (except Christians don't really follow the commandments of Moses let alone Jesus). (Romans 11) Best case scenario is you come back and do it again if you don't do it during tribulation; worst case scenario is damnation.

The reason why is because the baptism of Christ (fiery trial) is the conversion of the flesh (translation of JOB 40) and the remission of sins (what "Christians" call grace). The grace is that you can do it and the blood of Christ washes them clean from your soul through partaking of the sufferings of Christ (meaning physical pain internally; like a crucifixion).

Who has the possibility for salvation in the world? Those who are being "gang stalked" that's what it is when you are woken up. Of course you can go the other way (Matthew 25) the left hand path but that results in damnation.

I don't see much that Christians say that will actually lead anyone to salvation but for the "narrow path" mentioned. They never mention the things in Romans 6 or Mark 10:38 (baptized with the baptism I am baptized with) nor do they contemplate these things because they're content with hedging their bets for their iniquity. "Hey my pastor said it was cool for me to do what I want as long as I repent at some point"...yeah it is okay if you want to come back and be a puppet for satan all over again.

You literally repeat events from the past in the current without the Holy Spirit. It is bizarre.
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To drink of the same cup and be baptized with the same baptism. The fiery trials to try ones faith.

What do you know about these things? It's rare for people to mention these things.

Yes, some believe they can continue to commit dead works and still inherit eternal life. They are wrong. With that said, work is not what saves us. We are saved by grace, through faith, which is dead without works. Works simply give life to our faith. As for righteousness, our works are as filthy rags. God leads us into his righteousness. I still don't know why the enemies of God believe they will inherit eternal life...
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No I don't and if I'm not mistaken the 'great apostasy' is a man made term.

But OK I know what your implying. I like to think of it as ... delusions. And you have to tap dance around the truth carefully, in short steps. Delusions like that have to be ratcheted up incrementally...

...like losing our Constitutional rights for example.

Anyway I think were approaching the end of the beginning. There a lot of prophecy that has to be fulfilled and as bad as things are they can be so much worse.
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No I don't and if I'm not mistaken the 'great apostasy' is a man made term.

But OK I know what your implying. I like to think of it as ... delusions. And you have to tap dance around the truth carefully, in short steps. Delusions like that have to be ratcheted up incrementally...

...like losing our Constitutional rights for example.

Anyway I think were approaching the end of the beginning. There a lot of prophecy that has to be fulfilled and as bad as things are they can be so much worse.
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2 Thessalonians 2:3-4King James Version (KJV)
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Hebrews 6:4-7
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Luke 8:13
They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
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Why do people believe in the Trinity? Sure, father, son, holy ghost but where did scripture say three in one? Who are we to assume such things?

Oh yeah, who is Melchizedek? He has no beginning or end..
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I have even been to churches who believe that God no longer does signsand wonders today..
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Ah, no great apostasy today. It is a good idea to try to love one another though. However, so many people, including this thread writer, seek to use religion or claim to speak in God's name to condemn others and reassure everyone that their way is the only way to live.

Yes, protect yourself and your family. Try to do good, but no humans have all of the answers, even if they believe a God is speaking to them. If the life styles of some people are not hurting you or others, and are simply different, why not try minding your own business? The Golden Rule trumps all of the religious mumbo jumbo.
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Ah, no great apostasy today. It is a good idea to love one another though. However, so many people, including this thread writer, seek to use religion or claim to speak in God's name to condemn others and reassure everyone that their way is the only way to live.

Yes, protect yourself and your family. Try to do good, but no humans have all of the answers, even if they believe a God is speaking to them. If the life styles of some people are not hurting you or others, and are simply different, why not try minding your own business? The Golden Rule trumps all of the religious mumbo jumbo.
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No, we are to teach that men everywhere repent. Scripture commands us to warn others.

As a result, we cant, as you say, "mind our own business."


You are teaching heresy and I dare not heed your falsehood. Yes, it's a good idea to love one another. If we loved one another, would we sin against each other? That includes sinning against God.

As for condemning others, have I said anything unbiblical? I am simply repeating what I have learned. I am not here to condemn others. It is the word that will judge them.

As for the only way to live. That should be the way, truth, and life of Christ. Any other way will inherit the lake of fire.
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As a result, we cant, as you say, "mind our own business."
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The bible kind of says it, though. . .

[link to biblehub.com]
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Remember the parable about the weeds and wheat?.....
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FujiHebrewcoin Not quite...but any day now.
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As a result, we cant, as you say, "mind our own business."
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The bible kind of says it, though. . .

[link to biblehub.com]
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In context, if a sinner doesn't hurt others, doesn't mean we should not warn them about the way they live. For example, homosexuals believe they are not hurting others. That love is love. Are we not to rebuke them?

..and I know the bible mentions that.
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Oh boy I don't see a nothing dump hole in the wall, it's awesome did it work?
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Huh?
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As a result, we cant, as you say, "mind our own business."
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The bible kind of says it, though. . .

[link to biblehub.com]
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In context, if a sinner doesn't hurt others, doesn't mean we should not warn them about the way they live. For example, homosexuals believe they are not hurting others. That love is love. Are we not to rebuke them?

..and I know the bible mentions that.
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The heart is treacherous who knows its depths?
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As a result, we cant, as you say, "mind our own business."
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The bible kind of says it, though. . .

[link to biblehub.com]
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In context, if a sinner doesn't hurt others, doesn't mean we should not warn them about the way they live. For example, homosexuals believe they are not hurting others. That love is love. Are we not to rebuke them?

..and I know the bible mentions that.
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The heart is treacherous who knows its depths?
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God does. :)
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Apostasy is a fundamental BELEF AND DECEPTION CAUSED BY OPPOSITION THE GODS TRUTH

THE WAY YOU FIGHT THE PRESENT APOSTASY IS BY SPEAKING AND WITNESSING TO THE TRUTH OF GOD AND HIS KINGDOM
BY THE WORD OF TRUTH AGAINST THEIR PAPAL LIES

IT IS GODS WORD THAT IS TRUTH AND IS THE MEANS OF SETTING APART, OR IN OTHER WORDS THE MEANS OF SANCTIFICATION
THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH IS THE WEAPON WHICH IS ONE OF THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT AND IT IS THE MAIN ANTIDOTE TO THEIE PAPAL APOSTACY
Jesus is THE LORD OF ALL
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Apostasy is a fundamental BELEF AND DECEPTION CAUSED BY OPPOSITION THE GODS TRUTH

THE WAY YOU ODS THE PRESENT APOSTASY IS BY SPEAKING AND WITNESSING TO THE TRUTH OF GOD AND HIS KINGDOM
BY THE WORD OF TRUTH AGAINST THEIR PAPAL LIES

IT IS GODS WORD THAT IS TRUTH AND IS THE MEANS OF SETTING APART, OR IN OTHER WORDS THE MEANS OF SANCTIFICATION
THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH IS THE WEAPON WHICH IS ONE OF THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT AND IT IS THE MAIN ANTIDOTE TO THEIE PAPAL APOSTACY
Jesus is THE LORD OF ALL
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I like to speak the truth so others may learn. I like to remind them so it stays in their memory. This is why we are to continue to warn them. Its for their own good.
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The rituals of the Law are referring to circumcisions, burnt offerings, sin offerings, peace offerings and drink offerings. All these rituals of the Law have been fulfilled in Christ Jesus. The Apostle Paul didn't want the saints to put themselves under the bondage of practicing them anymore, after the resurrection of Christ!

For he said,

"Knowing that a man is not justified by the [ritual] works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the [ritual] works of the law, for by the [ritual] works of the law no flesh shall be justified. [Gal. 2:16]

We are still expected, however, to fulfill the Law of loving one another. We can do this when we receive the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.

"...for he who loves another has fulfilled the law...any other commandment are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." [Rom.13:8-10]

It's through love for the neighbor that living faith in Christ is expressed! It's through love for the neighbor that the righteousness of God is practiced. Let me now expand on those scriptures that so many are using to reject the very idea, that the works of faith have anything to do with us qualifying for the Rapture.

"Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the [rituals of the] whole law.

"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by [the rituals of the] law; you have fallen from [the Spirit of] grace.

For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love."[Gal.5:2-6]

Eagerly waiting for the "hope of righteousness", means we have the hope that, on the Last Day of this present Age, our bodies are going to be translated! Until that Day, by the Spirit of God dwelling within us, we express our faith by doing good to others from sincere love. If we ain't loving, our faith ain't working! Doing good deeds inspired by God's love within, indicates we have a living faith. Faith without works is dead! If we are loving others, and are expressing this by doing good to them, our bodies will change from mortality to immortality when the Lord comes!

"To those who seek glory, honor and immortality by perseverance in doing good, he will pay back eternal life." [Rom.2:7]

Apostate Pastors and Teachers, inspired by demons, are trying very hard to twist Paul's words to mean the exact opposite of what he's actually saying. That's why billions of Christians are Apostate. For over the last 50 Years, Roman Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterian, Evangelicals and Pentecostals, now believe they can practice fornication, adultery, homosexuality, cruelty, revenge, hatred and wickedness continuously, and as long as they believe Jesus died on the cross for their sins, they're saved. Such people, while claiming to believe in God, give no thought to sinning against Him! This is the delusion that is being preached from the pulpit, in the Apostate Church today. All those who have the Spirit of Christ have separated themselves from the Apostate Church, in order to prepare themselves for the Lord's Coming, and not share in her sins, and as a consequence, her plagues!

"...I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities." [Rev.18:4,5]

Paul wrote:

"For you have been delivered by grace through trusting, and even this [that is, the ability to trust] is not your accomplishment but God’s gift. You were not delivered by your own actions [because our good actions originate from the Lord through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit]; therefore no one should boast. For we are of God’s making, created in union with the Messiah Yeshua for a LIFE OF GOOD ACTIONS already prepared by God for US TO DO." [Eph.2:8-10][words in bracket are mine]

The ability to believe that Jesus Christ is our Lord and God is a gift given to us by the Lord Himself. Without this belief the Holy Spirit cannot dwell in us! And if He's not in us we don't have the power for a life of good actions! When we do acknowledge Jesus Christ as our Lord and God, the Holy Spirit starts to dwell in us and continually inspires us to refrain from doing evil, and to start doing the works of God. This is how we receive eternal life now, in preparation for the translation of our bodies from mortality to immortality, when the Lord comes.
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God has prepared good works for us to do. We must abandon the works of Satan. With God, this is possible. Without him, it is not.
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The rituals of the Law are referring to circumcisions, burnt offerings, sin offerings, peace offerings and drink offerings. All these rituals of the Law have been fulfilled in Christ Jesus. The Apostle Paul didn't want the saints to put themselves under the bondage of practicing them anymore, after the resurrection of Christ!

For he said,

"Knowing that a man is not justified by the [ritual] works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the [ritual] works of the law, for by the [ritual] works of the law no flesh shall be justified. [Gal. 2:16]

We are still expected, however, to fulfill the Law of loving one another. We can do this when we receive the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.

"...for he who loves another has fulfilled the law...any other commandment are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." [Rom.13:8-10]

It's through love for the neighbor that living faith in Christ is expressed! It's through love for the neighbor that the righteousness of God is practiced. Let me now expand on those scriptures that so many are using to reject the very idea, that the works of faith have anything to do with us qualifying for the Rapture.

"Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the [rituals of the] whole law.

"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by [the rituals of the] law; you have fallen from [the Spirit of] grace.

For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love."[Gal.5:2-6]

Eagerly waiting for the "hope of righteousness", means we have the hope that, on the Last Day of this present Age, our bodies are going to be translated! Until that Day, by the Spirit of God dwelling within us, we express our faith by doing good to others from sincere love. If we ain't loving, our faith ain't working! Doing good deeds inspired by God's love within, indicates we have a living faith. Faith without works is dead! If we are loving others, and are expressing this by doing good to them, our bodies will change from mortality to immortality when the Lord comes!

"To those who seek glory, honor and immortality by perseverance in doing good, he will pay back eternal life." [Rom.2:7]

Apostate Pastors and Teachers, inspired by demons, are trying very hard to twist Paul's words to mean the exact opposite of what he's actually saying. That's why billions of Christians are Apostate. For over the last 50 Years, Roman Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterian, Evangelicals and Pentecostals, now believe they can practice fornication, adultery, homosexuality, cruelty, revenge, hatred and wickedness continuously, and as long as they believe Jesus died on the cross for their sins, they're saved. Such people, while claiming to believe in God, give no thought to sinning against Him! This is the delusion that is being preached from the pulpit, in the Apostate Church today. All those who have the Spirit of Christ have separated themselves from the Apostate Church, in order to prepare themselves for the Lord's Coming, and not share in her sins, and as a consequence, her plagues!

"...I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities." [Rev.18:4,5]

Paul wrote:

"For you have been delivered by grace through trusting, and even this [that is, the ability to trust] is not your accomplishment but God’s gift. You were not delivered by your own actions [because our good actions originate from the Lord through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit]; therefore no one should boast. For we are of God’s making, created in union with the Messiah Yeshua for a LIFE OF GOOD ACTIONS already prepared by God for US TO DO." [Eph.2:8-10][words in bracket are mine]

The ability to believe that Jesus Christ is our Lord and God is a gift given to us by the Lord Himself. Without this belief the Holy Spirit cannot dwell in us! And if He's not in us we don't have the power for a life of good actions! When we do acknowledge Jesus Christ as our Lord and God, the Holy Spirit starts to dwell in us and continually inspires us to refrain from doing evil, and to start doing the works of God. This is how we receive eternal life now, in preparation for the translation of our bodies from mortality to immortality, when the Lord comes.
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If you quote yourself, make the response very long and tedious, talk about circumcisions, then you know that has got to be right.
Just don't make anything up.
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The rituals of the Law are referring to circumcisions, burnt offerings, sin offerings, peace offerings and drink offerings. All these rituals of the Law have been fulfilled in Christ Jesus. The Apostle Paul didn't want the saints to put themselves under the bondage of practicing them anymore, after the resurrection of Christ!

For he said,

"Knowing that a man is not justified by the [ritual] works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the [ritual] works of the law, for by the [ritual] works of the law no flesh shall be justified. [Gal. 2:16]

We are still expected, however, to fulfill the Law of loving one another. We can do this when we receive the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.

"...for he who loves another has fulfilled the law...any other commandment are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." [Rom.13:8-10]

It's through love for the neighbor that living faith in Christ is expressed! It's through love for the neighbor that the righteousness of God is practiced. Let me now expand on those scriptures that so many are using to reject the very idea, that the works of faith have anything to do with us qualifying for the Rapture.

"Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the [rituals of the] whole law.

"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by [the rituals of the] law; you have fallen from [the Spirit of] grace.

For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love."[Gal.5:2-6]

Eagerly waiting for the "hope of righteousness", means we have the hope that, on the Last Day of this present Age, our bodies are going to be translated! Until that Day, by the Spirit of God dwelling within us, we express our faith by doing good to others from sincere love. If we ain't loving, our faith ain't working! Doing good deeds inspired by God's love within, indicates we have a living faith. Faith without works is dead! If we are loving others, and are expressing this by doing good to them, our bodies will change from mortality to immortality when the Lord comes!

"To those who seek glory, honor and immortality by perseverance in doing good, he will pay back eternal life." [Rom.2:7]

Apostate Pastors and Teachers, inspired by demons, are trying very hard to twist Paul's words to mean the exact opposite of what he's actually saying. That's why billions of Christians are Apostate. For over the last 50 Years, Roman Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterian, Evangelicals and Pentecostals, now believe they can practice fornication, adultery, homosexuality, cruelty, revenge, hatred and wickedness continuously, and as long as they believe Jesus died on the cross for their sins, they're saved. Such people, while claiming to believe in God, give no thought to sinning against Him! This is the delusion that is being preached from the pulpit, in the Apostate Church today. All those who have the Spirit of Christ have separated themselves from the Apostate Church, in order to prepare themselves for the Lord's Coming, and not share in her sins, and as a consequence, her plagues!

"...I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities." [Rev.18:4,5]

Paul wrote:

"For you have been delivered by grace through trusting, and even this [that is, the ability to trust] is not your accomplishment but God’s gift. You were not delivered by your own actions [because our good actions originate from the Lord through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit]; therefore no one should boast. For we are of God’s making, created in union with the Messiah Yeshua for a LIFE OF GOOD ACTIONS already prepared by God for US TO DO." [Eph.2:8-10][words in bracket are mine]

The ability to believe that Jesus Christ is our Lord and God is a gift given to us by the Lord Himself. Without this belief the Holy Spirit cannot dwell in us! And if He's not in us we don't have the power for a life of good actions! When we do acknowledge Jesus Christ as our Lord and God, the Holy Spirit starts to dwell in us and continually inspires us to refrain from doing evil, and to start doing the works of God. This is how we receive eternal life now, in preparation for the translation of our bodies from mortality to immortality, when the Lord comes.
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If you quote yourself, make the response very long and tedious, talk about circumcisions, then you know that has got to be right.
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You've just highlighted the problem with the Church in the Western World. Just too lazy to read anything more than three lines! Is it any wonder most of you are deceived by Apostate Pastors, because you're too lazy to study the Word for yourselves.
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“He had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.” - Revelation 1:16

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. - Revelation 9:15


He is surely here with his followers, if you are wrought in God then you would had understood already.

In 1962 "a wise snake born in the east" - Jeanne Dixon.

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A deceived heart turns away from Truth. Guard you heart.

The judgment of the household of God comes first - but where are the big-name ministers smitten by fireballs or other deserved punishments.. where is this 1st judgment?
There's a few big names in Churchy-anity that have died and one recently (Ravi) that seemly escaped from lawsuits of sexually scandalous behavior.
I saw comments that foretold of the money scamming tv preachers that would eventually stumble and fall. Saying that the fall of these big name preachers would be the judgment of the house of God. Many are still out there scamming.

Judgment comes first to the household of God. The judgment may come all at once. At a certain time.
I do not know for sure but this is what may happen to those who claim to be believers.

The judgment MIGHT BE hidden. Hidden deep in the hearts (like a bitter seed) of those who preach lies and deviations of the words of Jesus Christ. Their devoted followers have accepted false doctrines and their hearts have been infected by this diseased seed. Their hearts have turned away from the Living God to idolatry and pleasing fables. Their hearts were hardened to the Truth.
Hearts swollen with mendacity. They've believed the wolves and hired shepherds that fed them lies and a fraudulent gospel.
When this 'seed' develops into a harvest crop of tares, (weeds) and bitter fruit, then it will be the time of judgment.

There will come a great shaking event.
A world wide snare of great change.

THAT is when their deluded hearts will be crushed and broken when they finally SEE that they have believed a lie in exchange for The TRUTH.
Immeasurable grief, agony and despair will afflict these deluded 'believers'. Tormenting remorse will afflict them until finally.. a deep repentance will come to them.
The judgment that comes first to the house of God.
Mercy triumphs over judgment if there is sincere repentance.
They will have to become martyrs for their faith.

Today - March 11, 2021 most believe in an altered gospel, an easy salvation and a friendly & loving "Jesus". Their version of Jesus is a loving guy who tolerates their bad behaviors. They believed the Bible verses and the pastors who twisted them.
Bible verses were used as witchcraft to deceive them.
The Bible became their idol and they trusted the twisted doctrines instead of developing a relationship with Jesus Christ. They missed Him.
Knowing all about Jesus.. but they never KNEW HIM.
And Jesus will say to them, "Depart from Me, I never KNEW you."

Broken hearts are a judgment that comes to the House of God.
The Broad/Wide Road leads to destruction.
The Narrow Way leads to Life. Jesus is the WAY TRUTH LIFE
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Of course the great apostasy is here when politicians cite god and ignore Jesus Christ. The politicians' god is the god of this world:Lucifer.

The great apostasy comes up every day in every other post by atheists who were Christians, Muslims who were Christians, wiccans who were Christians, Gnostics who have just turned into idolaters.

Trump's daughter abandoned Christianity.

The great apostasy that Jesus Christ warned us about is everywhere.
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Remember the parable about the weeds and wheat? So many churches today have not been planted by God and will be uprooted and cast into the fire. So many false Christians teaching unbiblical lies. Do you believe the great apostasy is here? So many people have been decieved into believing that they have the holy spirit within them. What I have learned is that the spirit gives eternal life and that the road to life is narrow. Few shall find it. Those with the spirit are the children of God who inherit the promises of God. I have also learned that there are several sins that lead to death but not all of them. Scripture teaches that those who commit sins that lead to death do not inherit life. Therefore they do not have the spirit that gives life. They are not children of God. They are the enemies of God. Children of the devil. Remember, without holiness, no one shall see God. For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but those who believe shall see Gods glory. Those who believe no longer fall short of the glory of God. Jesus himself said those who believe shall see Gods glory. Moses saw Gods glory and so shall you, if you believe.

If a murderer does not have eternal life in him, neither does a liar. Therefore all heretics will inherit the lake of fire. They do not have the spirit of God within them. Neither do the sexual immoral. There are many people within the church who are within unlawful marriages. They are given into adultery. If your spouse is not dead, should you be with someone else? Did they commit fornication? How many of you are in unlawful marriages? Adulterers do not have the holy spirit of God. Neither do magic practitioners, idolators, or cowards. Do you love money? Have you sold your possessions and given to the poor as Jesus requested? Are you greedy? The greedy love the world and those who love the world are the enemies of God. So please, do not let these people fool you. They do not have the holy spirit.

God keeps a covenant of love with those who love him and will repay those who hate him to their faces. Those who love him keep the commandments. They have his spirit. Those who hate him don't keep the commandments. They do not have the spirit. God hates all workers of iniquity and those who love violence but loved the world enough to sacrifice his son for its sins. Now the enemies of God can become the friends of God. Cleansed by the blood of Christ. Forgiven and redeemed.
Please, if we have not yet repented, we need to do so. As a result, if you come across a heretic, warn them twice as the bible commands. They do not have the spirit therefore they do not know the full truth and cannot save you. They create sons of hell just like those before them.
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The 'last generation' was given the Book of Revelation as a guideline to study. The events inside that book will happen. All the babies born into this last generation were given a serious trial to overcome; to believe a lie or to be set apart and believe only the Truth.
Born into this world and then.. programmed.
Raised into the modern tech world, they grew to idolize their magic black screens. The screens speak. They listen and obey.
God dwells inside the temple - the living temple inside humans beings. He created them to have a conscious starting with knowing right from wrong. Truth or a lie.
The 'Good Shepherd' draws His sheep to follow His voice. His sheep hear and obey His voice. Some sheep get drawn away by other voices and leave the Narrow Path.
He is calling them back before it is too late.

History repeats over and over.
Idolatry inside 'The Temple' is symbolic of the inner man's struggle to obey God or reject Him. A decision is made to worship the Creator and KNOW Him .. OR.. to replace Him with a statue/idol. Or a black screen that tells them what they like to hear.

The judgment - inside - the House of God is happening. A generation of "believers" have followed what their black screen false prophets told them, following many 'other voices'. Voices of "Watchmen" who kept them busy with signs and jerking their chains with alerts. Some completely corrupt and yet very popular. Wolves in sheep's clothing. Appearing to be 'angels of light'. Deceiving many.

The precious time left should have spent praying, talking and getting to KNOW their King. The voice who will guide them & tell them only Truth. The voice of the Good Shepherd. The few sheep who follow Him will be able to endure & prevail because they KNOW Him.

This vaxx situation has revealed who listens to God and who doesn't. Many have rejected that human beings were created to be Temples of the Living God. They believe whatever they want. Then, they exchanged a relationship with God with a black screen who tells them to become desolate with an abomination.

Is that the apostasy?





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