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NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???

 
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NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
why is the focus on pain aids now?
i went to a neurosurgeon for my spine & he told me that
the future doctors will NOT be prescribing any type of pain killers. I asked "what will replace them?" he said "NOTHING",,just Tylenol.... whoa..i Have RA and have to have pain controllers or i cant make it - i have seen a UUUGE change in the medical world over the prescribing of painkillers,, it's so weird!
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
It's probably because of the millions of people using it recreationally. Shame that a bunch of druggies have to fuck shit up for people with legitimate need. It's like when I have a cold and want to get some sudafed and I have to show a fucking ID and sign some shit.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
Oh its still available, you just don't get it at the pharmacy anymore.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
Grow poppies. They're very ornamental.

Edited to add: Not mocking you, OP. Just practical.

Last Edited by Kamchatka on 05/11/2016 08:52 AM
More deplorable all the time.
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It is probably set to replace pot as the best black-market drug around. (once it gets hyped up that it's side effects are called 'the Sherlock Syndrome' as the O2 increase to the brain enhances the thinking functions) Gringy conditions breed a forgetful population and they are easy to control compared to people that are observant and outspoken.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
Grow poppies. They're very ornamental.
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. . . and the powder blends in nicely with bread flour for those daily sandwiches that are both filling and relaxing.
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Last Edited by Kamchatka on 05/11/2016 08:51 AM
More deplorable all the time.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
I made a post about this on here awhile back, basically it's a psy-op. Ya the opiate based meds have a big problem with abuse, particularly related too the explosion of Heroin usage. However, many people are able too live much better quality of life than they otherwise would be living because of these pain medications. Their should probably be stricter controls in place regarding the refills and usage tests on this drug category, rather than such difficulty obtaining prescriptions. All opiate based prescriptions should come with a contract that the patient must sign stating they will not transfer or sell the medications and drug testing should probably be mandatory at least for the first few months of the prescription, too make sure the patient is even taking the meds. They need to go after the dealers of this even harder, and lay off the pain sufferers as if they are druggies just seeking the high.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
They know how many millions of people are addicted to these meds mostly treating legitimate pain, so part of the psyop is too alienate patients who use this medication from the general populace / family / friends, creating more separation and divide within the social structure. The next phase will likely be a big push of labeling most users of these medications as "druggies" who "just want to get high" and all have "problems", the social stigma will take hold and who knows what's next. Could be anything, maybe they are baking up a new breed of pain-med drug and they want too really get that off the ground, maybe they are boosting the sale off illicit narcotics via alienating pain suffers from their peers and making them feel like they "might as well be doing heroin".
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If you follow what I'm saying a step further, you could even speculate maybe heroin is being set up too take the place of opiate pain meds (legitimately). Less processing, faster production (maybe), extremely highly addictive more so than the pain meds themselves ect. I could see why the pharmaceutical industry would like to corner the entire heroin market and create a monopoly over the opiate based drugs in whole.
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CONTROL it's all about control.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
It's probably because of the millions of people using it recreationally. Shame that a bunch of druggies have to fuck shit up for people with legitimate need. It's like when I have a cold and want to get some sudafed and I have to show a fucking ID and sign some shit.
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I made a post about this on here awhile back, basically it's a psy-op. Ya the opiate based meds have a big problem with abuse, particularly related too the explosion of Heroin usage. However, many people are able too live much better quality of life than they otherwise would be living because of these pain medications. Their should probably be stricter controls in place regarding the refills and usage tests on this drug category, rather than such difficulty obtaining prescriptions. All opiate based prescriptions should come with a contract that the patient must sign stating they will not transfer or sell the medications and drug testing should probably be mandatory at least for the first few months of the prescription, too make sure the patient is even taking the meds. They need to go after the dealers of this even harder, and lay off the pain sufferers as if they are druggies just seeking the high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69393167

How can anyone that comes to this site still believe that "the government cares".

They make MONEY for their black projects by bringing in heroin. Heroin isn't made down the street. They have to eliminate the Meth competition.

Restricting opiates after pushing them for years will increase their profits as desperate people with pain turn to the streets.

I hear since we went to Afghanistan the crops are improving each year and they have to create a market for all their protected poppies.
So - cut the supply of doctor prescriptions- which were pushed just to get people hooked- to create a market to supply MONEY for the shadow Government.

THINK people - like THEY do!- how to get the MOsT MONEY from the sheep- they FARM us for resources - and they do not care if we are in pain- all the better to impair our ability to figure out their evil system...
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
You can see the gov talking sheet about opoids because of the the rampant abuse. All they would have to do is Medicaid to refuse coverage of them and all other insurance will fall in line and people would have to pay out of pocket for pain meds. The illegal market for opoids would decrease and street prices would go way higher! I think some form of this will come out in the near future!
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
Just by them illegally. The government doesnt tell me wwhat i can have
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
Read about Kratom... an herb used for centuries with similar effects like opiates but not addicting and has a lot of health benefits. Too bad it's banned in Tennessee.. damned bible belt state
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
I made a post about this on here awhile back, basically it's a psy-op. Ya the opiate based meds have a big problem with abuse, particularly related too the explosion of Heroin usage. However, many people are able too live much better quality of life than they otherwise would be living because of these pain medications. Their should probably be stricter controls in place regarding the refills and usage tests on this drug category, rather than such difficulty obtaining prescriptions. All opiate based prescriptions should come with a contract that the patient must sign stating they will not transfer or sell the medications and drug testing should probably be mandatory at least for the first few months of the prescription, too make sure the patient is even taking the meds. They need to go after the dealers of this even harder, and lay off the pain sufferers as if they are druggies just seeking the high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69393167


my doctor already has a contract that says pretty much dont sell them etc. Like I am going to sell them doc, you saw my broken back mri.. lol.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
It's probably because of the millions of people using it recreationally. Shame that a bunch of druggies have to fuck shit up for people with legitimate need....
 Quoting: filth

Exactly :(

For several years now, docs won't prescribe even 10 pills 1xmonth for really bad pain that, lol, happens 1xmonth.
The reply was Motrin and hysterectomy or something.
wtf
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
I made a post about this on here awhile back, basically it's a psy-op. Ya the opiate based meds have a big problem with abuse, particularly related too the explosion of Heroin usage. However, many people are able too live much better quality of life than they otherwise would be living because of these pain medications. Their should probably be stricter controls in place regarding the refills and usage tests on this drug category, rather than such difficulty obtaining prescriptions. All opiate based prescriptions should come with a contract that the patient must sign stating they will not transfer or sell the medications and drug testing should probably be mandatory at least for the first few months of the prescription, too make sure the patient is even taking the meds. They need to go after the dealers of this even harder, and lay off the pain sufferers as if they are druggies just seeking the high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69393167


my doctor already has a contract that says pretty much dont sell them etc. Like I am going to sell them doc, you saw my broken back mri.. lol.
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pain clinics are also doing this already. Regular practices will start referring long term pain patients to those clinics to wash their hands of it. The state is already putting opoid prescriptions into a database to monitor whos getting what.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
why is the focus on pain aids now?
i went to a neurosurgeon for my spine & he told me that
the future doctors will NOT be prescribing any type of pain killers. I asked "what will replace them?" he said "NOTHING",,just Tylenol.... whoa..i Have RA and have to have pain controllers or i cant make it - i have seen a UUUGE change in the medical world over the prescribing of painkillers,, it's so weird!
 Quoting: maddox


they botched my spine surgery i nearly died, suffer now terrible pain, doctors won't give me anything other than ibuprofen, it's a joke, i put it down to the socialist state and me not being a "protected group" as i was told.....I GET NOTHING for being white hetero working class male......NO HEALTH CARE FOR ME only rudimentary, NHS is only for pakies gays and women now
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
they botched my spine surgery i nearly died, suffer now terrible pain, doctors won't give me anything other than ibuprofen, it's a joke, i put it down to the socialist state and me not being a "protected group" as i was told.....I GET NOTHING for being white hetero working class male......NO HEALTH CARE FOR ME only rudimentary, NHS is only for pakies gays and women now
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Thats terrible! Have you happen to hear anything about heroin usage increasing in your country? I know it's REALLY bad in the USA and it seems almost like they are pushing it too get worse. If you start seeing heroin epidemics exploding you know something is going on.
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Sherlock holmes syndrome?
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its revenge for trump
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Simple economics, really. The .gov has a surplus of heroin coming out of Afghanistan, and they need new customers. I knew when I saw Obama's "too many people die from painkillers" speech.
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
why is the focus on pain aids now?
i went to a neurosurgeon for my spine & he told me that
the future doctors will NOT be prescribing any type of pain killers. I asked "what will replace them?" he said "NOTHING",,just Tylenol.... whoa..i Have RA and have to have pain controllers or i cant make it - i have seen a UUUGE change in the medical world over the prescribing of painkillers,, it's so weird!
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they botched my spine surgery i nearly died, suffer now terrible pain, doctors won't give me anything other than ibuprofen, it's a joke, i put it down to the socialist state and me not being a "protected group" as i was told.....I GET NOTHING for being white hetero working class male......NO HEALTH CARE FOR ME only rudimentary, NHS is only for pakies gays and women now
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Read about Kratom
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
The drug pushers stand to make a killing from the withholding of pain killing prescriptions. The cartels should be dancing in the streets!

At one time, the anti-diarrheal medicine, Parapectolin, had a wee mite bit of opium in it. It was just enough to calm the entire gut system, very soothing. Opium was soon to vanish from the label.

There is a way to grow your own poppies and harvest the opium. I didn't have much luck because the seeds are so tiny that the plants grow too close together and are hard to thin out. I will try again, just not sow them the same way. Maybe use a small-holed shaker and scatter the seeds over a wider area. ?????
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This is what happened. The US government has been flooding the market with it for YEARS. To keep people distracted to keep them addicted and to keep them with so many problems that they dont notice what is going on with the government. Now the government is saying there is an epidemic, HUH!
What fueled it was the crocked Pill Doctors with and unsatisfied greed, all the pharmaceutical companies with no Soul. See how this goes,
ALL BROUGHT TO YOU BY OUR GOVERNMENT
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Yes, good ^ point.
There was a thread about a father concerned for his kids, with his town having a growing heroin problem.
Small, nice town, he didn't know why.

Well, it's the next section of America trying to stand up for itself. Gotta quell the dissidents, right?
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.gov wants you to buy skull and bones/cia heroin instead
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The drug pushers stand to make a killing from the withholding of pain killing prescriptions. The cartels should be dancing in the streets!

At one time, the anti-diarrheal medicine, Parapectolin, had a wee mite bit of opium in it. It was just enough to calm the entire gut system, very soothing. Opium was soon to vanish from the label.

There is a way to grow your own poppies and harvest the opium. I didn't have much luck because the seeds are so tiny that the plants grow too close together and are hard to thin out. I will try again, just not sow them the same way. Maybe use a small-holed shaker and scatter the seeds over a wider area. ?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58443733


Do you understand how huge of a plot you would need and the labor to grow and process into something usable?

This is why we can't grow it here
You actually need slave labour and free land to make a 0rofit off it.

Absolutely impossible to grow for your self
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Grow poppies. They're very ornamental.
 Quoting: Kamchatka

. . . and the powder blends in nicely with bread flour for those daily sandwiches that are both filling and relaxing.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


IM AAAAAAALL OVER IT!!! LOL i have a green thumb
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Re: NOTICE all the Opium bashing everywhere now? WHY???
Wow, input heroin in search box above and there are several interesting discussions.

And OP, found this, lol:






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