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7.X. User ID: 72058896 Croatia 04/19/2016 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mathematics in Scripture - the mark of authenticity. And, no I'm not talking about bible codes or gematria divination. This is numerics. Most people realize that the scriptures the communication device that God uses to communicate His purpose for His creation, the truth of Christ Jesus for which everything was made, and His desired relationship with mankind. The 66 books of the bible are a continual narrative of the history of God and His people which crescendos at a point in the future for which Christ makes His return for His bride (the church) and glorification is complete. Quoting: Salt All of that is a given. But, many people think its just a story that was written by a few different human authors. A human epic, written with human ideas, for a human purpose. They believe that it is impossible for the bible to actually be a divine, living document of truth. A time truth of the past, present and future, inspired by God, and written down in holiness with each character guided by the Holy Spirit. That is too much for many to believe. They just can't wrap their head around it. So, this thread will attempt to peel back a layer of the onion and reveal the divinity of God's living word. To express the multi-dimensional content of each book from cover to cover in the hopes that this will shed light (no pun intended) on the fact that the Bible is a living, holy document. I'd like to start with the mathematics and grow from there. Ancient Hebrew is the language that God gave Adam. Hebrew is also numerical. Ok, so here we go...and this will take some time to get through it. Here's a tasty bit to get you started. Genesis - Creation - Fibonacci Sequence A scene from the movie Pi "The Torah is just a long string of numbers..." [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] From an article titled "Overwhelming Mathematical Evidence of the Divine Inspiration of the Scriptures" From The Works of Dr. Ivan Panin, Harvard Scholar and Mathematician About the good doctor: ONE OF THE most remarkable occurrences in our time is God’s preparation of one individual to produce positive evidence that would completely undermine all Biblical criticism and bring atheism toppling to the ground wherever honest, thinking men will face the facts. More startling still is the fact that this individual was a converted Russian Nihilist, a Harvard scholar, and a mathematician. At the very time when organized atheism was laying its plan to get control of Russia and make use of its vast resources to sow the seeds of atheism in every nation of the earth, God was preparing His Russian, Ivan Panin, to bring forth scientific evidence of the verbal and plenary inspiration of the holy Scriptures in the original languages. Dr. Panin, who passed away in October, 1942, after 50 years of work on Bible numerics, was not the first to discover that there was a strange mathematical structure running through the Bible. There was Browne in his Ordo Saeculoreum, and Grant in his Numbers of the Bible and Bullinger in his Numbers of the Scriptures. These all brought forth many striking examples of numeric features in the Bible. It remained for Dr. Panin, however, by giving his very life to the task, to find that every letter of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts is numbered and occupies its own special place in the order of the total number of letters in the Bible, the slightest variations of orthography being all God ordained. Since every Greek and Hebrew letter carries a numerical value (letters being used for figures in these languages), every word, phrase, sentence and paragraph has a definite arithmetical sum. Dr. Panin devoted himself so persistently to counting letters and working out mathematical problems, that he often wore himself out physically. His works were voluminous and his discoveries seemingly without end. He was the author of a volume, Structure of the Bible and of a revision of the New Testament based upon his numeric discoveries. Panin’s establishing of the practically infinite series of complex systems, in the Hebrew and Greek texts, all sequences, combinations, ratios, etc., following a uniform design from Genesis to Revelation, is undoubtedly God’s answer to modern atheism and higher criticism and His vindication of the verbal and plenary inspiration of Scripture. The discovery settles many questions of text. It proves that the books of our present Bible, and they alone, have the required features. It settles disputes of long standing as to some portions which scholars have said should be eliminated from the Bible. The doctrine of the divine authority of the Scriptures has always been fully sustained by the proofs from fulfilled prophecy, from the inexhaustible depths of truth revealed, from its matchless power over the lives of men, from its indestructibility and from the testimony of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. However, some have been won to wave these lines of evidence aside as unscientific. More at link: [link to www.bereanpublishers.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Dr. Chuck Missler - Discoveries of Dr. Ivan Panin (Heptadic signatures) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Texts Used by Panin The text used by Panin in his counts is the Received Hebrew Text for the Old Testament and the Wescott and Hort Text for the New Testament. He has had reference to many other texts. The count be it noted, almost invariably sustains Wescott and Hort on the New Testament. Following is an abbreviated example of the kind of phenomena found by Dr. Panin in these texts: 1. He takes a given subject like the genealogy of Christ in Matt 1:1‑17, or a book of the Bible as a whole, or the Bible in its entirety, and shows the following kind of phenomena: 2. The number of words in the vocabulary will divide by the number seven. 3. The number of words beginning with a vowel is divisible by seven. 4. The number of words beginning with a consonant is divisible by seven. 5. The number of letters in the vocabulary is divisible by seven. 6. Of these letters, those which are consonants and those which are vowels both divide by seven. 7. The number of words in the vocabulary occurring more than once is divisible by seven. Those occurring only once likewise divide by seven. 8. The number of words occurring in more than one form is divisible by seven. The number occurring in only one form likewise divides by seven. 9. The number of nouns is divisible by seven. The number that are not nouns divides by seven. 10. The number of proper names divides by seven. The male names divide by seven. The female names divide by seven. 11. The number of words beginning with each of the letters of the alphabet is divisible by seven. Numerical Values for Letters The Bible is written in two languages; the Old Testament in Hebrew (the few chapters in Chaldee being for numeric purposes the same as Hebrew); the New Testament in Greek. Both these languages have this peculiarity: they have no separate symbols for numbers, corresponding to our modern Arabic figures, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0. In their place they make use of the letters of their alphabet, so that each Hebrew and Greek letter stands also for a certain number. This is called the numeric value of the letter. As each word consists of letters, the numeric value of a word is the sum of the numeric values of its letters. The numeric value of a sentence, paragraph, chapter, book or volume, or library, is the sum of numeric values of the words of which these consist. By means of these numeric values the Greeks and Hebrews performed all their numeric operations. But in Scripture an additional system is used for the purpose of numeric construction of the text, that of Place Values. Place values and more evidence at link: [link to www.bereanpublishers.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] i know that's a lot of info... and there's more. Psalm 34:8 O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. arabic figures , you say?... try indian(india) figures , it would be more accurate , for start... |
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anonymous 007 User ID: 41592024 United States 04/19/2016 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mathematics in Scripture - the mark of authenticity. And, no I'm not talking about bible codes or gematria divination. This is numerics. Nice thread! But I disagree that God taught Adam Hebrew. I read in "The Evolution Handbook," our first language was Japhetic; but Semitic and Hamitic tounges first shewed up around the time of the tower of Babel. Japheth was Noah's firstborn son. Ge. 10:21 I was reading about it online the other day; and Abraham supposedly spoke Akkadian, long before Hebrew was a language. Also, you said, "Original Hebrew scriptures." I read that the original scriptures were written in stone with the finger of God. Have you seen the original Hebrew scriptures? Moses learned to read Egyptian. Acts 7:22 And Pharaoh had the scripture before Moses wrote one word. Pharaoh was drowned in the Red Sea, after he had the scripture. Ro. 9:17. Moses wrote the law much later. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70731748 United States 04/19/2016 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Mathematics in Scripture - the mark of authenticity. And, no I'm not talking about bible codes or gematria divination. This is numerics. Nice thread! Quoting: anonymous 007 41592024 But I disagree that God taught Adam Hebrew. I read in "The Evolution Handbook," our first language was Japhetic; but Semitic and Hamitic tounges first shewed up around the time of the tower of Babel. Japheth was Noah's firstborn son. Ge. 10:21 I was reading about it online the other day; and Abraham supposedly spoke Akkadian, long before Hebrew was a language. Also, you said, "Original Hebrew scriptures." I read that the original scriptures were written in stone with the finger of God. Have you seen the original Hebrew scriptures? Moses learned to read Egyptian. Acts 7:22 And Pharaoh had the scripture before Moses wrote one word. Pharaoh was drowned in the Red Sea, after he had the scripture. Ro. 9:17. Moses wrote the law much later. The Language Spoken by Adam “The whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.” —Genesis 11:1 The Scriptures reveal that the first man, shortly after his creation, gave answers to God, that he conversed with his wife, and that he gave names to his subjects—the lower orders of animal creation. There seems no reason to doubt that Adam’s children spoke the same language he did, until the Flood, and until about two hundred years after the Flood when the confusion of tongues took place at Babel. What was that original language which God communicated to Adam when he was created? There probably have been many language groups in the world which would like to have claimed that it was their particular tongue. However, we believe the Bible indicates that it was the ancient Hebrew language. The conciseness, simplicity, energy, and fertility of the Hebrew language, as well as its relationship to most oriental languages, are all points in favor of this view. There is evidence that the ancient oriental languages derived their origin from the Hebrew language. The names of individuals appearing in the early chapters of Genesis, as well as the names given by Adam to the various species of the lower animals, all have a special significance. The names of animals describe the characteristics of the species to which they were assigned. more at link: [link to www.dawnbible.com] |