My rant on Obama and his scam of Obama care.

I hope you get better soon yep its a mess!

Too many people complaining that they couldn't see a doctor because they didn't have 'health care' They didn't want to write a check, preferring instead to pay money to an insurance company rather than to a doctor.
Now under Obamacare they can't even see a doctor. No one will take them.

Third party decision makers are nothing new

what is new is the amount of NON authorizations are going up

I do agree with you that why have a doctor to write out a prescription for what is needed only to have someone who doesn't even know the situation ; only what is written on paper
make the decision whether or not you can have the MRI


This bullshit is nothing new;

the problem is

DOCTORS gave up their sole rights of prescription legitimacy to the insurance companies

Doctors did NOT protest when the insurance companies made the decision to take over this for the doctors and

said it would be good for the public as '''another set of eyes''''


well, it is not good for the public ; it has become a nightmare to get good healthcare

Doctors ; if they were worth their weight ; would have protested and

used their power to block the insurance companies

but they did not and

now what you have in the US and elsewhere is a nightmare

the US use to have the best healthcare in the world

Today, it can be rated as the worse healthcare in the world.

hope you feel better and do not need the MRI, but that is not the point at all here of the thread -

the point is that you are being treated like shit.

I hate that kind of runaround in health care especially.

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Complete bullshit. As I was in the physical therapists office, the woman working on me told me this.

She's 60 years old, works part time at this doctors office. The doctor won't provide insurance to his employees. Part time job, no insurance because her employer is too tight.

She has a 6500.00 deductible.

$6500.00??????????

I hope you heal up from the accident. Getting rear ended like that is bad.

The health insurance situation in this country is a disaster.

Exactly

ACA is nothing but another variation on bread and circuses.

Whole country is turning into a SHITHOLE. That's why we need TRUMP!

This absolutely pisses me off. A 60 year old woman who's employer can't afford to pay insurance for his employees and the 60 year old has a $6500.00 deductible from a part time job?

A friend of a friend sent out his own obummercare rant...
just tragic what this is doing to folks...shameful..


"I'm a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.

My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.

For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.

For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That's right, $1 per month. I'm not making this up.

Don't believe me? Just go to [link to www.coveredca.gov] , the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I've mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940. You'll need to enter that.

So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners.

But there's a lot more to it. Stick with me.

And before I make my next points, I'd like you to think about something:

I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.

But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois (per Google Earth)

Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more.

If you have no insurance, if you've been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it's essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.

Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic.

Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836.

And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

Now consider this:

If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month.

But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month.

That's right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).

I mean, it's bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would never agree to subsidize premium policies.

If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I'm subsidizing to get a better policy, for less than 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.

Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar?

And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month?

Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48.


$10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work as an engineer; $48 is something I could make collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.

Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?

ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That's just the cover story.

The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab.

Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal?

ObamaCare is about enabling, subsidizing, and expanding the Left's political power base, at taxpayer expense.

Why would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month?

For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage? Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I'm saving?

And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons?

One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they'll multiply, and multiply, and multiply.

ObamaCare: It's all about political power.

Remember folks, November 2016 is just around the corner. If you want to continue this kind of redistribution of wealth, then don't "forward" this email. But if you are sick and tired of the money grab by the current administration, then "forward" this email to everyone in your Address Book. VOTE IN 2016!!!!"

Man, I'm sorry, Azila. Reading your account is infuriating, I can only imagine how frustrated you must be.

I really think you should start calling your senators and your representative. Go to their offices, write them letters, send faxes. It's time consuming, but one of them might actually step in. One phone call from any one of those thugs would settle this.

Also, look for other forums that you can share your experience on, go to the FB pages of your senators and representatives and post your account.

Best of luck. Keep us posted!

Imagine how evil you would have to be to call this piece of crap the "Affordable Care Act." That's way beyond cynical. Every single one of the bastards that voted for this should be drug from their offices, liberally coated in scalding hot tar, then thoroughly feathered and run out of town on a rail.

Thanks STW....what sucks the most, I work full time, not in the "system"
Single, pull my weight. Etc.....wtf has happened to us?

You couldn't be more correct. It's horrendous.

We have to do something. The peeps that voted for this should be ....castrated.
Who does this help.? How many does this hurt?

I hope you feel better soon, Azila !

OP you are a tard who is rushing about making appointments when you are required to get your referrals through your primary.

You could have saved yourself alot of trouble by just going to the list of doctors on your Insurance website but even when you pick one yourself the referral has to come from your primary.

You're doing things the old way and picking Doctors that aren'tr covered by your insurance. In short you are a tard.

Thank you. What' hurts more, is how my "president" has let me down as far as health care. I can't get better if he is in control.

No Germany, you're the tard. I don't need a referral from my primary care. I need AUTHORIZATION from my insurance company to have a prescribed treatment performed.

yep, can't even see a doctor and now have to write a check! To an insurance company. Who, btw, besides getting a small check from you(if you're subsidized) gets an even bigger check from the government. So, the insurance companies are making a killing! An absolute killing. And providing practically no care at all. I've read even their list of so called providers is not accurate or downright false. Most of the poor people choose the bronze plan because it's all they can afford, but, you never really get to see doc because you have to pay your premium which should have gone to see your doc. With a 5000K deductible, the insurance company will likely never pay a dime out on them, but will sure get rich off of them. And if anyone thinks single payer is going to be any better, you better think again. I bet it's the same shit. Monthly premiums with high deductibles and you never get to see your doc. Waiting list is six months long, etc., procedures need "approval" which are routinely denied (just like those form letters you get dealing with any government agency). An all out mess.

I can believe it. My daughter works for a doctor. Well, for a doctor of a large medical group. They got a whole $25 for a Christmas bonus. She said she almost handed it back to them.

It's horrific. It's the only word I know to describe it. I never thought I'd be caught up in this mess, but I am. Many people will die because of it.

Sad day for Ameica.

It's sad...this is just the beginning. Soon it won't just be me that feels this. Hang on America. Our ppl will die due to this.

aca won't have death panels, it is a death panel !

Thank you ar-15. This country is in big trouble, sad to say.

I understand the system is designed to grab money from people who are sick and especially the elderly. They don't need death panels. There is a point where people just won't go to the doctor.

My old insurance before Obumacare had a deductible for 2500. I had pneumonia and hospitalized for 3 days. I had to pay the deductible of 2500 out of a ridiculous bill that was almost $9000. Obumacare said my insurance didn't qualify and had to change. So now if I had to go in again I would be out $5000 for the deductible. My insurance has almost tripled since Obumacare took over.

The whole ACA was written by insurance companies for insurance companies and no one who voted for it read the bill because it was too big to read. The Republican Congress we have right now has done nothing to repeal or fix ACA.

Medicare is full of holes with deductibles designed to make sure someone who isn't wealthy is going to be completely broke before death. There are lots of nursing homes that take advantage of elderly people by grabbing all of their assets. States have their own laws on people giving money to family members. The laws range from 2 years to 10 years where a nursing home can grab money from family members that were given assets before they got sick.

ACA doesn't do anything for dentistry. So many people with bad teeth suffer.

This irks the crap out of me. Sorry, sounds like a lot of us are stuck in the same mess.