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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67081559 United States 12/11/2015 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boy, I hope you're really not that dumb. We didn't go to the moon. Footage is rarely shown anymore, it's being scrubbed from history books, future space endeavors ignore all of Apollo, nobody has been past the 475km glass ceiling other than this fairy tale. This whole Kubrick admission/hoax seems deliberate. But from the propagandist side. Controlled opposition. So a guy waited 15 years to hoax or this was some made up BS to discredit apollo reviewers? Hmm, which seems more logical? Why do scientists hang out on conspiracy forums just waiting for a thread they can offer damage control on? Doesn't make sense unless they are paid to do so. If it was so evident we went to the moon, no debate would be necessary but anyone can see how much tine and resources are spent on damage control alone. Enter "moon hoax" into google and you'll be flooded with propagandist websites offering geek speak and psuedo science nobody can empirically verify. Rocket propulsion wouldn't work in space. You're all being lied to. We are here for a reason, find out what that is. You're not a meaningless spec with ape genes, you're special - find your true meaning because others are misleading you every step of the way |
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Clinging to my guns and Bibles User ID: 70933911 United States 12/11/2015 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't do "feelings" I do logic... Quoting: Masiro Logic tells me that Stanley Kubrick never did a moon landing hoax film, but why? First he never had time to do so... Stanley Kubrick was too busy trying to create a movie that would have been his masterpiece, "Napoleon".... Not that any of his other works weren't masterpieces but like Picasso, the man was always making films or working on them so the chance at making an elaborate hoax that he could never put his name to EVER would have been like Picasso drawing a dick in a public bathroom and writing "for a good time call 742-2776"... and then there is the issue of money, Kubrick made enough money that he didn't need to work very hard on a project where he had no control over creative content or the finished results... Think about long and hard hoax tards and remember why we laugh at you, in order to pull off the greatest hoax of all time he would have to be strictly controlled by the government and produce something that was as bland as a US Army VD film, and he would get no credit or money for his efforts and he would have to do it for every launch of the apollo program across years of space exploration... Yep, every different mission would have to be done as it happened, or basically LIVE... Not the sort of forte` Stanley Kubrick is famous for now is it, he is famous for carefully composed shots that took weeks of planning and tests to put on screen sometimes seconds of action in movies that took years to produce. and then there is the question of his loyalty, in 1965 Kubrick moved to England and never lived in America again throughout the rest of his life except to shoot films on location, given that his movements have been recorded by his biographers there is no way that he could have ever overseen the type of production required to pull off the greatest hoax of all time and keep every single member of the crew quiet about what they were doing. That leaves us with a question if this happened what happened to all the crew members and sets. Logically all the crew would have to be killed off and the sets destroyed, meaning that the best and brightest of Hollywood would all have to die after the work was done along with Kubrick himself... It just didn't happen... But wait there is more... Logically why is this hoax necessary, what is the purpose of propagating such a hoax to begin with? To make people believe that America never landed men on the moon and that the US government is the biggest bunch of liars on the planet.... To this end people will say anything they can think of to discredit reality, and you have to then wonder what is their ultimate goal... And should you be worried about that goal... A couple of things. 1) Kubrick wasn't working on "Napoleon" in 67-68-69, he was finishing up 2001 in 67-68. People who theorize Stanley faked the moon landings (like me) suggest that the moon landing project (just as Apollo was) was parallel to the 2001 production. 2) Kubrick wasn't rich when he started 2001, he also didn't have the Warner deal in place that he magically had after 2001. He in fact, had a production partner on his films prior to 2001: A Space Odyssey, James B. Harris, whose sole function was financing. Dr. Strangelove was his last film prior to 2001, and he was just a struggling director coming up in Hollywood to that point. 3) While he couldn't take credit, how can you say he got no money for this project? Money would be the easiest part of it. The Apollo program was one big $30 Billion slush fund. There's no telling how much of that Kubrick walked away with. Plus he got the Warner deal, which was no doubt backstopped by the US Government. Warner Brothers lets him have unlimited budgets and final cut on all films (something NO OTHER DIRECTOR HAS EVER HAD, unless he owns the studio like Spielberg at Dreamworks), and any losses were no doubt billed by Warner to the Feds. 4) Why would every mission have to be done LIVE? That makes no sense. There is no reason on Earth each of those missions couldn't have been in the can before the release of 2001 in 1968. 5) As to the crew members and sets, we have no idea who the crew members were nor if they were killed off or not. We also have no idea if the sets were destroyed. Are you suggesting it would be difficult for the United States government to destroy a set or murder the skeleton crew Stanley would have needed. Your argument on this point is idiotic and assumes things didn't happen which very may well have happened. 6) "Why was this hoax necessary?" Are you fucking kidding me? JFK had shot off his mouth and set an expectation we were going to the Moon. Unfortunately, the Moon is not a physical place one can "go to". So, they knew that at some point, the people would be like "WTF, why aren't we going to the Moon?" So they had to fake it. They had no choice. Winter is Coming. |
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Clinging to my guns and Bibles User ID: 70933911 United States 12/11/2015 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then how do you explain the following: Quoting: Masiro GPS navigation Satellite imaging Worldwide global communications I'll wait... GPS navigation Easy. Cell towers. This is also why "GPS" doesn't work in the middle of the ocean. Satellite imaging High altitude airplanes. Worldwide global communications Ever heard of the massive network of undersea cables? [link to www.theatlantic.com] Undersea cables wouldn't be necessary if "satellites" existed. Fucking think about it. Winter is Coming. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70971220 United States 12/11/2015 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to youtu.be (secure)] Cgi? But wait there's more.... [link to youtu.be (secure)] Actual UNEDITED VIEO OF LAUNCH TO SPACE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70971220 United States 12/11/2015 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then how do you explain the following: Quoting: Masiro GPS navigation Satellite imaging Worldwide global communications I'll wait... GPS navigation Easy. Cell towers. This is also why "GPS" doesn't work in the middle of the ocean. Satellite imaging High altitude airplanes. Worldwide global communications Ever heard of the massive network of undersea cables? [link to www.theatlantic.com] Undersea cables wouldn't be necessary if "satellites" existed. Fucking think about it. You seem confused just because your telephone GPS doesn't work out in the ocean doesn't mean actual real GPS that doesn't require a telephone signal doesn't work in the middle of the ocean... The reason your telephone GPS doesn't work is because it relies on a constant carrier signal from the telephone company to update the maps for the area you are in Boats has a built in memory that has the maps of the areas you are traveling into already installed in it all it requires is a global positioning satellite signal to tell you where you are at Since we get images of the Earth from space all the time including images showing the actual movements of clouds how high are these high-altitude airplanes flying and do they ever come down apparently not because they're constantly up they're supplying us with these images |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67081559 United States 12/11/2015 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to youtu.be (secure)] Quoting: Masiro Cgi? But wait there's more.... [link to youtu.be (secure)] Actual UNEDITED VIEO OF LAUNCH TO SPACE I said "UNCUT". There's a huge difference. And the second vid the amateur rocket stopped producing work as it hit outer space. Thanks for your help |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52946801 United States 12/11/2015 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then how do you explain the following: Quoting: Masiro GPS navigation Satellite imaging Worldwide global communications I'll wait... GPS navigation Easy. Cell towers. This is also why "GPS" doesn't work in the middle of the ocean. Satellite imaging High altitude airplanes. Worldwide global communications Ever heard of the massive network of undersea cables? [link to www.theatlantic.com] Undersea cables wouldn't be necessary if "satellites" existed. Fucking think about it. You seem confused just because your telephone GPS doesn't work out in the ocean doesn't mean actual real GPS that doesn't require a telephone signal doesn't work in the middle of the ocean... The reason your telephone GPS doesn't work is because it relies on a constant carrier signal from the telephone company to update the maps for the area you are in Boats has a built in memory that has the maps of the areas you are traveling into already installed in it all it requires is a global positioning satellite signal to tell you where you are at Since we get images of the Earth from space all the time including images showing the actual movements of clouds how high are these high-altitude airplanes flying and do they ever come down apparently not because they're constantly up they're supplying us with these images Don't bother. He's not exactly the brightest bulb in the chandelier. |
Hawkesbay
User ID: 70418593 United States 12/11/2015 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rocket propulsion doesn't work in space??? Quoting: Masiro Just how did you figure that out logically and please show which scientists prove it was impossible... hmmm. . . lets see. combustion cannot occur in a vacuum. Yeah, good point!! And it won't occur under water, either. Say, have you ever held a bottle rocket under water? It's weird how it keeps burning under there until it blows up. I mean, I know it's not possible and everything, but that's just what they do. Weird. |
Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 12/11/2015 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rocket propulsion doesn't work in space??? Quoting: Masiro Just how did you figure that out logically and please show which scientists prove it was impossible... hmmm. . . lets see. combustion cannot occur in a vacuum. That's why a rocket brings its own oxidizer with it. Rockets do work in space. A rocket, working in space: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to russianspaceweb.com] [link to russianspaceweb.com] The telescope is tracking the upper stage of this Block DM-03 as it approaches apogee at the start of the gif and then it begins its burn to place the payload in geostationary orbit and shoots out of the view. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52946801 United States 12/11/2015 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rocket propulsion doesn't work in space??? Quoting: Masiro Just how did you figure that out logically and please show which scientists prove it was impossible... hmmm. . . lets see. combustion cannot occur in a vacuum. Yeah, good point!! And it won't occur under water, either. Say, have you ever held a bottle rocket under water? It's weird how it keeps burning under there until it blows up. I mean, I know it's not possible and everything, but that's just what they do. Weird. Don't you dare bring your devil magic into play here, mister! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67081559 United States 12/11/2015 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rocket propulsion doesn't work in space??? Quoting: Masiro Just how did you figure that out logically and please show which scientists prove it was impossible... hmmm. . . lets see. combustion cannot occur in a vacuum. Yeah, good point!! And it won't occur under water, either. Say, have you ever held a bottle rocket under water? It's weird how it keeps burning under there until it blows up. I mean, I know it's not possible and everything, but that's just what they do. Weird. Did you just compare underwater to a vacuum? Why don't you try and ignite the bottle rocket while underwater? That would at least make it a little better of a failed analogy |
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Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 12/11/2015 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then how do you explain the following: Quoting: Masiro GPS navigation Satellite imaging Worldwide global communications I'll wait... GPS navigation Easy. Cell towers. This is also why "GPS" doesn't work in the middle of the ocean. Satellite imaging High altitude airplanes. Worldwide global communications Ever heard of the massive network of undersea cables? [link to www.theatlantic.com] Undersea cables wouldn't be necessary if "satellites" existed. Fucking think about it. GPS does work in the middle of the ocean. Undersea fiberoptic cables are great and all, but they are not the only method of getting signals between continents (though they can handle the most bandwidth and being the shortest path also have the shortest latency). Again, satellite phones work in the middle of the ocean and can connect you to people worldwide... But best of all I'd love to know how you reconcile the fact that amateurs like myself track satellites in orbit all the time... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71013056 United States 12/11/2015 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I imagine similar convincing went on with Kubrick. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70771686 United States 12/11/2015 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't do "feelings" I do logic... Quoting: Masiro Logic tells me that Stanley Kubrick never did a moon landing hoax film, but why? First he never had time to do so... Stanley Kubrick was too busy trying to create a movie that would have been his masterpiece, "Napoleon".... Not that any of his other works weren't masterpieces but like Picasso, the man was always making films or working on them so the chance at making an elaborate hoax that he could never put his name to EVER would have been like Picasso drawing a dick in a public bathroom and writing "for a good time call 742-2776"... and then there is the issue of money, Kubrick made enough money that he didn't need to work very hard on a project where he had no control over creative content or the finished results... Think about long and hard hoax tards and remember why we laugh at you, in order to pull off the greatest hoax of all time he would have to be strictly controlled by the government and produce something that was as bland as a US Army VD film, and he would get no credit or money for his efforts and he would have to do it for every launch of the apollo program across years of space exploration... Yep, every different mission would have to be done as it happened, or basically LIVE... Not the sort of forte` Stanley Kubrick is famous for now is it, he is famous for carefully composed shots that took weeks of planning and tests to put on screen sometimes seconds of action in movies that took years to produce. and then there is the question of his loyalty, in 1965 Kubrick moved to England and never lived in America again throughout the rest of his life except to shoot films on location, given that his movements have been recorded by his biographers there is no way that he could have ever overseen the type of production required to pull off the greatest hoax of all time and keep every single member of the crew quiet about what they were doing. That leaves us with a question if this happened what happened to all the crew members and sets. Logically all the crew would have to be killed off and the sets destroyed, meaning that the best and brightest of Hollywood would all have to die after the work was done along with Kubrick himself... It just didn't happen... But wait there is more... Logically why is this hoax necessary, what is the purpose of propagating such a hoax to begin with? To make people believe that America never landed men on the moon and that the US government is the biggest bunch of liars on the planet.... To this end people will say anything they can think of to discredit reality, and you have to then wonder what is their ultimate goal... And should you be worried about that goal... A couple of things. 1) Kubrick wasn't working on "Napoleon" in 67-68-69, he was finishing up 2001 in 67-68. People who theorize Stanley faked the moon landings (like me) suggest that the moon landing project (just as Apollo was) was parallel to the 2001 production. 2) Kubrick wasn't rich when he started 2001, he also didn't have the Warner deal in place that he magically had after 2001. He in fact, had a production partner on his films prior to 2001: A Space Odyssey, James B. Harris, whose sole function was financing. Dr. Strangelove was his last film prior to 2001, and he was just a struggling director coming up in Hollywood to that point. 3) While he couldn't take credit, how can you say he got no money for this project? Money would be the easiest part of it. The Apollo program was one big $30 Billion slush fund. There's no telling how much of that Kubrick walked away with. Plus he got the Warner deal, which was no doubt backstopped by the US Government. Warner Brothers lets him have unlimited budgets and final cut on all films (something NO OTHER DIRECTOR HAS EVER HAD, unless he owns the studio like Spielberg at Dreamworks), and any losses were no doubt billed by Warner to the Feds. 4) Why would every mission have to be done LIVE? That makes no sense. There is no reason on Earth each of those missions couldn't have been in the can before the release of 2001 in 1968. 5) As to the crew members and sets, we have no idea who the crew members were nor if they were killed off or not. We also have no idea if the sets were destroyed. Are you suggesting it would be difficult for the United States government to destroy a set or murder the skeleton crew Stanley would have needed. Your argument on this point is idiotic and assumes things didn't happen which very may well have happened. 6) "Why was this hoax necessary?" Are you fucking kidding me? JFK had shot off his mouth and set an expectation we were going to the Moon. Unfortunately, the Moon is not a physical place one can "go to". So, they knew that at some point, the people would be like "WTF, why aren't we going to the Moon?" So they had to fake it. They had no choice. ...or what if the Soviets faked it first? They had to pull it off while they still had a clear tech edge in phony video productions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56935253 China 12/11/2015 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rocket propulsion doesn't work in space??? Quoting: Masiro Just how did you figure that out logically and please show which scientists prove it was impossible... hmmm. . . lets see. combustion cannot occur in a vacuum. That's why a rocket brings its own oxidizer with it. Rockets do work in space. A rocket, working in space: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to russianspaceweb.com] [link to russianspaceweb.com] The telescope is tracking the upper stage of this Block DM-03 as it approaches apogee at the start of the gif and then it begins its burn to place the payload in geostationary orbit and shoots out of the view. Thx, I will look into that soon! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70220640 Canada 12/11/2015 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mankind's greatest ever accomplishment, but it can't be repeated for at least another what, 10 years? Is it even scheduled by any major superpower at the moment? And yet, it didn't even take 10 years to go the first time! If you need more logic than that, I can't help you. The Apollo program was just one big propaganda vehicle, combined with real rockets that went to the Moon (unmanned)and a gigantic R&D subsidy for Military Industrial complex, specifically the development of ICBMs (which no engineer or scientist in their right mind would have worked on). Instead, all those engineers and scientists worked happily on a mission to land men on the Moon, which conveniently enough for the MIC, could also be used to put a nuclear weapon within 50m of any spot on Earth. Interesting, that, isn't it? And then look how much SFX technology improved from 2001: A Space Odyssey to Star Wars, and you will see another area where some of that Apollo money went. Lookout Mountain Studio, bitches: "When the studio was established in 1947, its purpose was kept secret." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41104530 United States 12/11/2015 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last night, when I attempted to write a response to the fake moon landing, my internet (and phones) went down for 10 minutes. My response ended up not being posted. This is not the first time this has happened on GLP. What gives, GM/mods?? Let this be a heads-up that every keystroke is being monitored and censored if 'they' don't like what you're typing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68425024 United States 12/11/2015 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last night, when I attempted to write a response to the fake moon landing, my internet (and phones) went down for 10 minutes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41104530 My response ended up not being posted. This is not the first time this has happened on GLP. What gives, GM/mods?? Let this be a heads-up that every keystroke is being monitored and censored if 'they' don't like what you're typing. Or maybe your mom's internet connection is shitty |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41104530 United States 12/11/2015 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last night, when I attempted to write a response to the fake moon landing, my internet (and phones) went down for 10 minutes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41104530 My response ended up not being posted. This is not the first time this has happened on GLP. What gives, GM/mods?? Let this be a heads-up that every keystroke is being monitored and censored if 'they' don't like what you're typing. Or maybe your mom's internet connection is shitty Well what a smart-ass remark to make. "Mom" doesn't exist anymore. Just a heads-up. Read and learn. Although GLP is addictive, remember it's like Facebook and other social media sites. All our stuff we post is being read. Just sayin'....that's why the "T" word can NEVER be mentioned. Carry on. |
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User ID: 68914848 Netherlands 12/11/2015 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last night, when I attempted to write a response to the fake moon landing, my internet (and phones) went down for 10 minutes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41104530 My response ended up not being posted. This is not the first time this has happened on GLP. What gives, GM/mods?? Compose your bigger posts in notepad. It'll save you a lot of aggravation. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68472714 United States 12/11/2015 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because you haven't heard of a moon landing doesn't mean it hasn't been happening. You seriously think they report everything they do? Rockets do work in space, sorry to disappoint you, the actual combustion does not occur in the vacuum of space, it is contained and controlled. And a glass ceiling on the earth...still shaking my head every time I see someone who actually thinks this..wow. Thought we had moved beyond that thousands of years ago. |