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| Judah Ra
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| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothin' huh? Well shit dawg I guess I got this. lol.  Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40905920 United States12/02/2015 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Morning, Judah. *smiles* Haven't read your post yet. Just wanted to say good morning first.  [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bro Quoting: Doobious Dimensions Lemme wake up Look around, I've been kinda busy myself chasing my shadow I hope you are well  It is alright my friend. :] Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Morning, Judah. *smiles* Haven't read your post yet. Just wanted to say good morning first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40905920 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Awh that's really sweet. Good morning! Thank you! And my god I do love this song, thank you for the good spirits.  Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69999350 United States12/02/2015 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two things... One I'm very sorry for the reaction myself and my friends caused. I'm not sure why we thought we could help. I find you to be like minded to me but that didn't give me the right to assume anything about you, I trespassed against you, it was wrong, forgive me, please. Number 2... There are no right answers, I find answers to my questions in dreams and through events in my life, you have to learn to read the universal language. I know maybe three words, I'm learning myself, what I can tell you is guard your thoughts and guard them well...this place, although fascinating has recently become a bit dangerous to myself...please be careful, Judah...I wish nothing but the best for you, listen to your heart, trust your own thoughts and be certain in the things you truly want... GUARD YOUR THOUGHTS, THEY ARE TREASURE FOR OTHERS Travel well and be safe judah |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27131635  Ireland12/02/2015 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been into meditation for several years now and for the longest time through assumption and misconceptions I've always assumed a physical transformation of the vessel for achieving Godhead. Quoting: Judah Ra Now when I first started this spiritual journey I tried to leave the body. I wanted really badly to get the hell out of here, but as soon as I started an astral projection I would get scared and pop right back into my body as soon as I opened a hole to a new area of being or dimension or frequency, whatevs. Anyways, besides weird noises this is the only event to occur during deep meditation, but I didn't really understand what was happening to me as I let go of leaving the body and was focused on transformation. Now I recognize that I guess my spirit was trying to pass through the dense vibration of the body through raising it, but I kept holding on and getting scared about this spiritual birth. Is this right? I just let go and move on? The only thing that worries me is the seemingly random area of birth.....I've seen some scary shit and I don't want to pop into some hell or become shark bait lol o_O I'm not sure how lucid I would be on the other side, or in control of my spiritual faculties at all. thanks guys this is just kinda scary for me >_< die to the world that is created from the mind that acts with no heart and find life in living from the heart. Keep things simple, you want to leave your body but maybe look to be truely embodied in it :) |
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| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two things... Quoting: Doobious Dimensions One I'm very for the reaction myself and my friends caused. I'm not sure why we thought we could help. I find you to be like minded to me but that didn't give me the right to assume anything about you, I trespassed against you, it was wrong, forgive me, please. Number 2... There are no right answers, I find answers to my questions in dreams and through events in my life, you have to learn to read the universal language. I know maybe three words, I'm learning myself, what I can tell you is guard your thoughts and guard them well...this place, although fascinating has recently become a bit dangerous to myself...please be careful, Judah...I wish nothing but the best for you, listen to your heart, trust your own thoughts and be certain in the things you truly want... GUARD YOUR THOUGHTS, THEY ARE TREASURE FOR OTHERS Travel well and be safe judah I am not upset with you at all. You are very much alright in my book. :] I appreciate your warning. I am not concerned with these matters though. I am aware of what my thoughts do to my environment and the responses I receive. It's not my area of focus. I am only interested in A)Physical transformation or B)leaving the body I have philosophized quite a bunch about this and have derived many of avenues of possibility. The question remains, which variable is the best path for me? It is quite possible physical transformation is unnecessary as you already have a spiritual body and this place is a haven, retreat for coming to terms with things about yourself so you are more prepared for the spiritual life. I could be a new soul, and old soul, this place could be a trap, could be a haven, could be a school, could be more than one thing. And for this reason of paradoxical possibilities I have forsaken trying to figure it out and just be. thoughtless. But this being pops me out of my body. Just really looking for confirmation. It is what happens, without me having any say except for doing or not doing the being. You see? Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been into meditation for several years now and for the longest time through assumption and misconceptions I've always assumed a physical transformation of the vessel for achieving Godhead. Quoting: Judah Ra Now when I first started this spiritual journey I tried to leave the body. I wanted really badly to get the hell out of here, but as soon as I started an astral projection I would get scared and pop right back into my body as soon as I opened a hole to a new area of being or dimension or frequency, whatevs. Anyways, besides weird noises this is the only event to occur during deep meditation, but I didn't really understand what was happening to me as I let go of leaving the body and was focused on transformation. Now I recognize that I guess my spirit was trying to pass through the dense vibration of the body through raising it, but I kept holding on and getting scared about this spiritual birth. Is this right? I just let go and move on? The only thing that worries me is the seemingly random area of birth.....I've seen some scary shit and I don't want to pop into some hell or become shark bait lol o_O I'm not sure how lucid I would be on the other side, or in control of my spiritual faculties at all. thanks guys this is just kinda scary for me >_< die to the world that is created from the mind that acts with no heart and find life in living from the heart. Keep things simple, you want to leave your body but maybe look to be truely embodied in it :) Well see thats the thing, this has been a six or seven year tribulation for me. I have done all of this. I can be thoughtless, I can live from the heart (emotion), in fact I live as a musical being as it is. I have already experienced ego death and my being is extremely simple. I just do not think physical transformation is necessary. I have a large energy potential brewing within me and it has destroyed everything about my human persona, not to mention burned me alive, but there is almost close to zero external physical proof that anything ever even happened to me. But I most definitely feel it. I have done reiki on people, I've done a lot of energy work, I know its real...but I have to accept that maybe this body cannot be transformed, only destroyed...which I guess is transformation lol. Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69999350 United States12/02/2015 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two things... Quoting: Doobious Dimensions One I'm very for the reaction myself and my friends caused. I'm not sure why we thought we could help. I find you to be like minded to me but that didn't give me the right to assume anything about you, I trespassed against you, it was wrong, forgive me, please. Number 2... There are no right answers, I find answers to my questions in dreams and through events in my life, you have to learn to read the universal language. I know maybe three words, I'm learning myself, what I can tell you is guard your thoughts and guard them well...this place, although fascinating has recently become a bit dangerous to myself...please be careful, Judah...I wish nothing but the best for you, listen to your heart, trust your own thoughts and be certain in the things you truly want... GUARD YOUR THOUGHTS, THEY ARE TREASURE FOR OTHERS Travel well and be safe judah I am not upset with you at all. You are very much alright in my book. :] I appreciate your warning. I am not concerned with these matters though. I am aware of what my thoughts do to my environment and the responses I receive. It's not my area of focus. I am only interested in A)Physical transformation or B)leaving the body I have philosophized quite a bunch about this and have derived many of avenues of possibility. The question remains, which variable is the best path for me? It is quite possible physical transformation is unnecessary as you already have a spiritual body and this place is a haven, retreat for coming to terms with things about yourself so you are more prepared for the spiritual life. I could be a new soul, and old soul, this place could be a trap, could be a haven, could be a school, could be more than one thing. And for this reason of paradoxical possibilities I have forsaken trying to figure it out and just be. thoughtless. But this being pops me out of my body. Just really looking for confirmation. It is what happens, without me having any say except for doing or not doing the being. You see? I understand... I think today you just taught me something If you've followed me long enough on this site I'm sure you've heard me say... Everything happens for a reason... Everything in moderation and most importantly... Know your role and when to slow it down...otherwise you may fly off the rails... Again Judah I'm sorry for my trespasses |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand... Quoting: Doobious Dimensions I think today you just taught me something If you've followed me long enough on this site I'm sure you've heard me say... Everything happens for a reason... Everything in moderation and most importantly... Know your role and when to slow it down...otherwise you may fly off the rails... Again Judah I'm sorry for my trespasses Middle way :] Not this, or that, but both at once, which is moderation in a sense. Not physical transformation, or leaving the body, but both, in unison. Leaving the body through meditation indeed transforms the body. Like a seedling escaping its shell. Hmm, I appreciate this reflection. I may have answered my own question. And again, no need for apologies. Much love friend. :] Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
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| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have also pondered that if I succeed in leaving the body, I may be able to return to it. But I also see that I also could not. I do not hold anything in absolution anymore except the unwritten ineffability of the god solution that lives within us all. And that is free will. "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
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| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ropes pull you up, ladders let you choose, hooks do nothing but drag you back down That is my word  Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just want to say I love all of you, those that chose to comment and those that didn't. Thank you for being you. Thank you for reflection.   Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27131635 Ireland12/02/2015 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been into meditation for several years now and for the longest time through assumption and misconceptions I've always assumed a physical transformation of the vessel for achieving Godhead. Quoting: Judah Ra Now when I first started this spiritual journey I tried to leave the body. I wanted really badly to get the hell out of here, but as soon as I started an astral projection I would get scared and pop right back into my body as soon as I opened a hole to a new area of being or dimension or frequency, whatevs. Anyways, besides weird noises this is the only event to occur during deep meditation, but I didn't really understand what was happening to me as I let go of leaving the body and was focused on transformation. Now I recognize that I guess my spirit was trying to pass through the dense vibration of the body through raising it, but I kept holding on and getting scared about this spiritual birth. Is this right? I just let go and move on? The only thing that worries me is the seemingly random area of birth.....I've seen some scary shit and I don't want to pop into some hell or become shark bait lol o_O I'm not sure how lucid I would be on the other side, or in control of my spiritual faculties at all. thanks guys this is just kinda scary for me >_< die to the world that is created from the mind that acts with no heart and find life in living from the heart. Keep things simple, you want to leave your body but maybe look to be truely embodied in it :) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Well see thats the thing, this has been a six or seven year tribulation for me. I have done all of this. I can be thoughtless, I can live from the heart (emotion), in fact I live as a musical being as it is. I have already experienced ego death and my being is extremely simple. I just do not think physical transformation is necessary. I have a large energy potential brewing within me and it has destroyed everything about my human persona, not to mention burned me alive, but there is almost close to zero external physical proof that anything ever even happened to me. But I most definitely feel it. I have done reiki on people, I've done a lot of energy work, I know its real...but I have to accept that maybe this body cannot be transformed, only destroyed...which I guess is transformation lol. it is not the body that burns away, its all that you made of your self, all that you create around your heart as you, the ego, that needs burning away, sit and meditate with that, you are on your path, keep walking on your way but be true to your heart as you go, see the mind as it plays games, you said you experienced ego death, you still have a lot in there. your heart wants to bring you to where you are, in paradise, seek it further and deeper, and you will find more and more of you. |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I won't argue with you paler, but know you make a lot of assumptions. I choose whether to dive into the complexity of the mind or relinquish it. I know more than you think I do :] Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69999350 United States12/02/2015 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been into meditation for several years now and for the longest time through assumption and misconceptions I've always assumed a physical transformation of the vessel for achieving Godhead. Quoting: Judah Ra Now when I first started this spiritual journey I tried to leave the body. I wanted really badly to get the hell out of here, but as soon as I started an astral projection I would get scared and pop right back into my body as soon as I opened a hole to a new area of being or dimension or frequency, whatevs. Anyways, besides weird noises this is the only event to occur during deep meditation, but I didn't really understand what was happening to me as I let go of leaving the body and was focused on transformation. Now I recognize that I guess my spirit was trying to pass through the dense vibration of the body through raising it, but I kept holding on and getting scared about this spiritual birth. Is this right? I just let go and move on? The only thing that worries me is the seemingly random area of birth.....I've seen some scary shit and I don't want to pop into some hell or become shark bait lol o_O I'm not sure how lucid I would be on the other side, or in control of my spiritual faculties at all. thanks guys this is just kinda scary for me >_< die to the world that is created from the mind that acts with no heart and find life in living from the heart. Keep things simple, you want to leave your body but maybe look to be truely embodied in it :) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Well see thats the thing, this has been a six or seven year tribulation for me. I have done all of this. I can be thoughtless, I can live from the heart (emotion), in fact I live as a musical being as it is. I have already experienced ego death and my being is extremely simple. I just do not think physical transformation is necessary. I have a large energy potential brewing within me and it has destroyed everything about my human persona, not to mention burned me alive, but there is almost close to zero external physical proof that anything ever even happened to me. But I most definitely feel it. I have done reiki on people, I've done a lot of energy work, I know its real...but I have to accept that maybe this body cannot be transformed, only destroyed...which I guess is transformation lol. it is not the body that burns away, its all that you made of your self, all that you create around your heart as you, the ego, that needs burning away, sit and meditate with that, you are on your path, keep walking on your way but be true to your heart as you go, see the mind as it plays games, you said you experienced ego death, you still have a lot in there. your heart wants to bring you to where you are, in paradise, seek it further and deeper, and you will find more and more of you. Wise words to ponder |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27131635 Ireland12/02/2015 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I won't argue with you paler, but know you make a lot of assumptions. Quoting: Judah Ra I choose whether to dive into the complexity of the mind or relinquish it. I know more than you think I do :] i was just answering based on your words and the energy in them,, your mind will see it one way and react but in your heart you will know, take care :) |
| Judah Ra
(OP) User ID: 5138768 United States12/02/2015 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I won't argue with you paler, but know you make a lot of assumptions. Quoting: Judah Ra I choose whether to dive into the complexity of the mind or relinquish it. I know more than you think I do :] i was just answering based on your words and the energy in them,, your mind will see it one way and react but in your heart you will know, take care :) The feeling is mutual. But I know I have experienced physical destruction through the generation of an ever increasing vibration within me. This has caused friction between my physical body and myself, which generates heat, or a burning sensation. You know, they don't call it the trial by fire for nothing. :] Sometimes you have to move beyond what the words mean in their connotation, less you miss the true symbolism behind the mask. As above, so below. The relation extends to all facets of being. Including words on an internet forum. Take care brother. Children of the void, sons of chaos, it is the last hour. The hebdomad is complete. We have been remade by Yaldabaoth in the image of the seven archons who created and enslaved this world. We are the hidden masters. We are the architects of anarchy. We are the dark fucking soul eaters, lords of the unrighteous. Today our new reign begins in a new reality. I told you! I told you! I told you we'd be deathless! Our legion will rise from behind the veil to reap the pain that we have wrought. The seven shall become a vast multitude and these days will be of vengeance and wrath. The deathless eon has begun! It's a beautiful fucking day. |
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