South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64720706 United States 06/26/2015 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! Despite the Governor Haley's new position on the Confederate Flag, members of South Carolinas House of Representatives believes the flag represents the culture of South Carolina and should not be removed because some people do not like to see it. A petition has started within the House of Representatives for the state to secede from the United States if the confederate flag is removed. Those who defend the flag, including the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a social and political group in the South, insist the flag is a symbol of the state’s past and no longer carries the racist meaning Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69618004 According to Leland Summers, Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans,“There is absolutely no link between the Charleston massacre and the Confederate Memorial Banner. Don’t try to create one. The petition for South Carolina's secession from the United States already has over 115,000 signatures since Haley's announcement earlier today." [link to newswatch33.com (secure)] Self-identifying. Brilliant. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69618004 Romania 06/26/2015 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! BTW, there are 287 comments to this news. Here's one of them. WILLIAM gemcrae • 16 hours ago FlagFLAG The United States of America Military Flag plain and simple--no gold fringe or other ornaments and symbolism attachedNot the original USA Military flag Some say it is a flag of Admiralty/Maritime type jurisdiction and is not suppose to be used on Land. Others say it’s not a flag at all, but fiction.However, the gold fringe which surrounds the flag gives notice that the American flag has been captured and is now being used by the corporate so-called government to give notice of its jurisdiction. Prior to the 1950's, state republic flags were mostly flown, but when a USA flag was flown, usually only at USA facilities, it was one of the following: Military flag --Horizontal stripes, white stars on blue backgroundHas no fringe, braid (tassel), eagle, ball, spear, etc. Some say the correct size ratio is 1 x 1.9 Civil Flag --Created in 1799 by Secretary of the Treasury Oliver Wolcott. Intended for peace time usage, denoting civil jurisdiction under the Constitution and common law. Has vertical stripes, blue stars on white background--last flown before Civil War with a few exceptions. A 1913 Postcard has a civil flag flying on the Customs House in San Francisco Click on picture to enlarge Another example of the vertical stripes: "The Coast Guard Ensign (flag) was first flown by the Revenue Cutter Service in 1799 to distinguish revenue cutters from merchant ships." --Wikipedia This flag was a symbol of law enforcement authority, not Military authority. The flag shown above appears to be a "USA flag" but has one or more of the following: Gold fringe along its borders (called "a badge") Gold braided cord (tassel) hanging from pole Ball on top of pole (last cannon ball fired) Mainly used at induction centers. Eagle on top of pole Spear on top of pole Some people see them as ornaments but all symbols have a meaning and purpose. The flag shown above is Not described in Title 4 of USC and therefore is illegal on land except for maybe (1) the President since he is in charge of Naval Forces on high seas, and (2) naval offices and yards. President Eisenhower settled the debate on the width of the fringe. The so-called justification for a Naval/Maritime flag to be on land is that all land was under the high water mark at one time even if it was eons ago. Flags on poles flying at the same height as other flags have equal status. A flag flying higher than the flag below indicates superiority over the flag below. Note that corporate state flags fly below the US flag. Keep in mind that the states were originally Sovereign over the central government and only the state flags were flown except in the District of Columbia not exceeding 10 miles square, its territories, forts, dockyards, arsenals, and other needful buildings, such as Post Offices, purchased with the consent of the legislature of the affected state. (Constitution, Section 8, Clause 17) The people in the geographic continental USA are at peace but the corporate government continues to be at war to exist, to increase and perpetuate debt, and to enrich others through [link to newswatch33.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69618840 United States 06/26/2015 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! Obviously a stupid people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63637993 Didn't learn the first time they lost. Incapable of learning the Truth - Love will always conquer hate. hahahhha. loser. You're on the wrong side of history. AGAIN! hahhahhahha. With this post Not so sure about "love always conquers hate" as it clearly does NOT always do so. If it did, you would never have a shooter like Dylan Roof, let alone a group like ISIS gain so much power. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57767499 United States 06/26/2015 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! Obviously a stupid people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63637993 Didn't learn the first time they lost. Incapable of learning the Truth - Love will always conquer hate. True, your problem is that you are ignorant of the truth. You think you support love but really support evil. "they will call good evil and evil good". Read the bible and learn before it is too late and your love for Obama takes you to hell. |
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User ID: 36421936 United States 06/26/2015 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! Events of this week have been so stunning and have happened so fast I think most people are in shock. With the Texas governor and attorney general insisting they will not be forced by the supreme court and the SC House coming back now with this petition, it looks like the staggering blow has not completely knocked us out. Time for a counter punch. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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User ID: 1295383 United States 06/26/2015 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! damn now this is what im talking about, the awakening!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69081689 GO SOUTH CAROLINA!!!! now how many states are going to follow suit? KC_Goldshine "Know guns, no crime. No guns, know crime." - Ralph Lauretano "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms" - Thomas Jefferson "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson "It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." - Thomas Jefferson "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." - Benjamin Franklin "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Said to be Voltaire, but really - Unknown |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63637993 United States 06/26/2015 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! Obviously a stupid people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63637993 Didn't learn the first time they lost. Incapable of learning the Truth - Love will always conquer hate. True, your problem is that you are ignorant of the truth. You think you support love but really support evil. "they will call good evil and evil good". Read the bible and learn before it is too late and your love for Obama takes you to hell. You can't scare me into believing your fairytales. Isn't this something in your fairytale religion? Something in the Bible about 'Fear not being in the presence of love, for if one knows fear, they can not know love'. Think it's in 1 John .... Yeah... |
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User ID: 58276109 Sweden 06/26/2015 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! Oh shit! It's starting! "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
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User ID: 68164291 United States 06/26/2015 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! "With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God. John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests: "Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world." "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein |
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User ID: 69616441 United States 06/26/2015 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! I believe this was TPTB's plan all along. They've wanted to incite a civil war. That's why all the military gear has been placed mostly in the south. We need to find a LEADER. We need to take that gear. We need to make our military understand that the government doesn't give a damn about them... they took an oath to protect us, and they better start honoring that oath !!!! I'm just feeling like the good, Patriotic citizens of this nation are playing into the hands of the usurpers. WE NEED GOD'S HELP !! . "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67389676 United States 06/26/2015 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: South Carolina threatens to secede if confederate flag is removed. The petition for South Carolina's secession has over 115,000 signatures! Do the blacks want to start a war based on race? Do they realize they'll be fighting not just the whites but the Latinos, Asians and even native Americans (like myself) |
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