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Madeline Scotto has gone through a lot of math teaching methods.

At age 100, she still teaches at Brooklyn's St. Ephrem's School.

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Traditional math solution:
+32
-12
20

***********************

Common Core math solution:

Count up from the smaller number until you get to the larger number

Get to adding 5's, then on to 10's (remember, ten is your friend)

12 + 3 = 15
15 + 5 = 20
20 +10 = 30
30 + 2 = 32

3 + 5 + 10 + 2 = 8 + 2 + 10 = 20

You go from a simple two step solution to this six step solution.

In my view this greatly increases the risk of making an error in your work, and takes three times as long.
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good watch, the communist core is a joke.

They are dumbing us down so they can better control us. Indoctrinating us with communist ideologies in the most subtle of ways.

If you want to take down america you have to do it from the inside, the generation that is being force feed this common core BS is so fucked.


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fed* dang autocorrect
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Traditional math solution
+343
-121
=222

Operation 1) 3 - 1 = 2
Operation 2) 4 - 2 = 2
Operation 3) 3 – 1 = 2

*********************

Common Core math solution

Operation 1) Draw the number line.
121……….130…….140…..143……………….243…………..343
____________________________________________

First Subtract:

Operation 2) 343-243 = 100
Operation 3) 243-143 = 100
Operation 4) 143 – 3 = 3
Operation 5) 140 – 130 = 10
Operation 6) 130 – 121 = 9

Then add the differences:

Operation 7) 100 + 100 = 200
Operation 8) 3 + 9 + 10 = 22
Operation 9) 200 + 22 = 222

Note: this is not a joke.

(Just want to let people understand the methodology promoted in common core teaching.)
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Communist core is about learning something that doesnt allow anyone to accomplish anything with the knowledge learned.
Nobody asls that such processes fix a single damn thing in a normal persons life.
It is essentially a waste of time, time that cannot ever be replaced.
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when was the last time you needed to draw a number line to get anything done in your life especially as a gradeschooler?
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Then you have to ask the question: why?

Say you have a class full of third graders and let's say half are doing math at the second grade level. With this method, everybody can do the required work, and get the right answer. And the testing will show they ALL succeed in solving the subtraction problems. Only none of them really learned true subtraction.

Then the top students are stuck wasting their time and don't drill on the essential math skills they should be learning for their grade. They will fall behind to be at the same level as the slower kids.

But everybody wins this way, right?
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Traditional math solution
+343
-121
=222

Operation 1) 3 - 1 = 2
Operation 2) 4 - 2 = 2
Operation 3) 3 – 1 = 2

*********************

Common Core math solution

Operation 1) Draw the number line.
121……….130…….140…..143……………….243…………..343
____________________________________________

First Subtract:

Operation 2) 343-243 = 100
Operation 3) 243-143 = 100
Operation 4) 143 – 3 = 3
Operation 5) 140 – 130 = 10
Operation 6) 130 – 121 = 9

Then add the differences:

Operation 7) 100 + 100 = 200
Operation 8) 3 + 9 + 10 = 22
Operation 9) 200 + 22 = 222


Note: this is not a joke.

(Just want to let people understand the methodology promoted in common core teaching.)
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wtfdid

I mean holy fuck seriously that shit is retarded as fuck...
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good watch, the communist core is a joke.

They are dumbing us down so they can better control us. Indoctrinating us with communist ideologies in the most subtle of ways.

If you want to take down america you have to do it from the inside, the generation that is being force feed this common core BS is so fucked.


:bushhitler:

:hitler:

cattheend
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Pure Orwellian stuff. Read 1984. The similarities are astounding.
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Traditional math solution:
+32
-12
20

***********************

Common Core math solution:

Count up from the smaller number until you get to the larger number

Get to adding 5's, then on to 10's (remember, ten is your friend)

12 + 3 = 15
15 + 5 = 20
20 +10 = 30
30 + 2 = 32

3 + 5 + 10 + 2 = 8 + 2 + 10 = 20

You go from a simple two step solution to this six step solution.

In my view this greatly increases the risk of making an error in your work, and takes three times as long.
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its the same types that made the X-11<4]5'6'=0,234 CRAP
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the national TOY (Teacher of the Year) spoke at our back to school rally.

He said you ahead and fire me, but Common Core is useless.

This was maybe 4 years back, or 3. We used to have a visit from the national TOY at the kickoff of every school year.

would name the guy if I could.
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bsflag TOO FUCKING MANY people with NO knowledge of what Common Core is, or is about!!

(hint, it IS NOT 'new math'!!)



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I would like to know the person who divised this type of math ???? As i would love to merge a 2x4 to there forehead. And rid the earth of these burdens!!!
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bsflag TOO FUCKING MANY people with NO knowledge of what Common Core is, or is about!!

(hint, it IS NOT 'new math'!!)



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Maybe so but it's useless shit and no need for it.
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Traditional math solution:
+32
-12
20

***********************

Common Core math solution:

Count up from the smaller number until you get to the larger number

Get to adding 5's, then on to 10's (remember, ten is your friend)

12 + 3 = 15
15 + 5 = 20
20 +10 = 30
30 + 2 = 32

3 + 5 + 10 + 2 = 8 + 2 + 10 = 20

You go from a simple two step solution to this six step solution.

In my view this greatly increases the risk of making an error in your work, and takes three times as long.
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How are they supposed understand this so called common core method if they are too stupid to simply subtract 12 from 32?
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Check it.........

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some people just like numbers more and can figure out little tricks with them
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bsflag TOO FUCKING MANY people with NO knowledge of what Common Core is, or is about!!

(hint, it IS NOT 'new math'!!)



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Wrong

The math problem posted above was taken directly from this instructional video promoting common core math. This sounds like a very pro common core teacher, explaining elementary common core math in this instructional video....

at 3:00


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Dumb children.
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good old gal....good video 5 stars
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good old gal....good video 5 stars
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Thank you kind Sir.
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bsflag TOO FUCKING MANY people with NO knowledge of what Common Core is, or is about!!

(hint, it IS NOT 'new math'!!)



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Really? So what is common core about???

My son is in second grade and the math he is bringing home is ridiculous.

Example:

425
+312
-----


5+2 = 7
20+10 = 30
400+300=700


7
+30
+700
------
737

Please explain why they would require kids to add like this instead of adding straight down?
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bsflag TOO FUCKING MANY people with NO knowledge of what Common Core is, or is about!!

(hint, it IS NOT 'new math'!!)



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I think this teacher sums up the totality of what is going on with Common Core, which you, AC, apparently would like us to delve into...

Common Core was initially a state initiative, but got hijacked by a small group in Washington D.C.

Well, when the Federal bureaucrats got a hold of it, they changed it and molded it into a whole K-12 curriculum -then it became this monster.

This happened even though there is a Federal law specifically outlawing the Federal Government from designing a “curriculum” for the State funded K-12 public school system. So they call them “standards” and say it not a "curriculum," to get around the Federal law.

As this teacher points out – that is a complete lie.

Anyway, what she said (paraphrased) in her speech was:

“I am very passionate about what I do.

“I was in Louisville school system for seven years, I loved my job. Outstanding system. Teahers were great, students were great. I loved my job. Then these common core standards came down the line and I became more and more miserable.

“I have recently transferred school systems and cut my salary in half.

“I know what some people are saying is that the standards do not dictate the curriculum. If you know anything about teaching, your standards dictate the curriculum. Let me tell you the reason the standards dictate the curriculum. Because my job security, and my family’s security depends on it.

“Let me ask you a question, if your little Sally doesn’t pass the state assessment are you going to pat me on the back and say good job, that’s OK? No, you are going to wonder what happened wrong. And you are going to ask me when little Sally was in my classroom, what I didn’t do.

“What’s going to be tested are the standards. And when the standards are tested, that’s what you spend your time on.

“It is not a standard - it is a curriculum, and when it’s high stakes testing, you are going to be evaluated on that.

“There will be no room to teach anything else, at all.”

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Traditional math solution
+343
-121
=222

Operation 1) 3 - 1 = 2
Operation 2) 4 - 2 = 2
Operation 3) 3 – 1 = 2

*********************

Common Core math solution

Operation 1) Draw the number line.
121……….130…….140…..143……………….243…………..343
____________________________________________

First Subtract:

Operation 2) 343-243 = 100
Operation 3) 243-143 = 100
Operation 4) 143 – 3 = 3
Operation 5) 140 – 130 = 10
Operation 6) 130 – 121 = 9

Then add the differences:

Operation 7) 100 + 100 = 200
Operation 8) 3 + 9 + 10 = 22
Operation 9) 200 + 22 = 222

Note: this is not a joke.

(Just want to let people understand the methodology promoted in common core teaching.)
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Just my two cents. The method I use for subtracting large numbers in my head is pretty much the same as the common core method.

If I need to solve 343-121 quickly and I had no pen/paper, I will count up from 121 to 343, like this:

Start at 121, then count 221, then 321. That's 200. Then count 331 and 341. That's another 20. Then count 342 and 343. That's 2 more. So the total is 222. I can do this in about 1-2 seconds mentally.

Like the lady in the video said, different methods work for different people. Not everybody learns the same way.

Does anyone else do subtraction like this?
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John Stossel - Common Core

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KIDS REACT TO 2+2=5 (COMMON CORE)
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Traditional math solution
+343
-121
=222

Operation 1) 3 - 1 = 2
Operation 2) 4 - 2 = 2
Operation 3) 3 – 1 = 2

*********************

Common Core math solution

Operation 1) Draw the number line.
121……….130…….140…..143……………….243…………..343
____________________________________________

First Subtract:

Operation 2) 343-243 = 100
Operation 3) 243-143 = 100
Operation 4) 143 – 3 = 3
Operation 5) 140 – 130 = 10
Operation 6) 130 – 121 = 9

Then add the differences:

Operation 7) 100 + 100 = 200
Operation 8) 3 + 9 + 10 = 22
Operation 9) 200 + 22 = 222

Note: this is not a joke.

(Just want to let people understand the methodology promoted in common core teaching.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68736400


Just my two cents. The method I use for subtracting large numbers in my head is pretty much the same as the common core method.

If I need to solve 343-121 quickly and I had no pen/paper, I will count up from 121 to 343, like this:

Start at 121, then count 221, then 321. That's 200. Then count 331 and 341. That's another 20. Then count 342 and 343. That's 2 more. So the total is 222. I can do this in about 1-2 seconds mentally.

Like the lady in the video said, different methods work for different people. Not everybody learns the same way.

Does anyone else do subtraction like this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57289130


How about

+37,349
-13,237
=?
How are you going to do that with this common core method?!?!

You can easily do it subtracting straight down. 24,112. I did it just looking at it using the old way, and typing the numbers here, as I did it.

If you don’t master the tried and true way of doing basic subtraction on the smaller numbers in third grade, you will falter when presented with bigger and bigger problems.

Give me a break!
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Traditional math solution
+343
-121
=222

Operation 1) 3 - 1 = 2
Operation 2) 4 - 2 = 2
Operation 3) 3 – 1 = 2

*********************

Common Core math solution

Operation 1) Draw the number line.
121……….130…….140…..143……………….243…………..343
____________________________________________

First Subtract:

Operation 2) 343-243 = 100
Operation 3) 243-143 = 100
Operation 4) 143 – 3 = 3
Operation 5) 140 – 130 = 10
Operation 6) 130 – 121 = 9

Then add the differences:

Operation 7) 100 + 100 = 200
Operation 8) 3 + 9 + 10 = 22
Operation 9) 200 + 22 = 222


Note: this is not a joke.

(Just want to let people understand the methodology promoted in common core teaching.)
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wtfdid

I mean holy fuck seriously that shit is retarded as fuck...
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Common core was made by Jews and as we know schooling has gone way down for a while now. Jews are evil and want your kids stupid, mainly the white kids though.
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Madeline Scotto has gone through a lot of math teaching methods.

At age 100, she still teaches at Brooklyn's St. Ephrem's School.

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Well people that are old and set in their ways don't like change. That doesn't mean they are correct.

I'm sick of hearing people bitch about "Common Core".

First, it is not a Federal ANYTHING. It is a standards based approach to learning that is adopted state by state as they wish.

It uses standard approaches to learning math and reading.

I'm 44 and seeing my sons learn from this is refreshing. It has methodology to help learn shit that we just had to somehow figure out on our own when I was a kid.

Most of the people that I've seen complaining is because they don't get it or understand the methodology.

Keep your fucking minds open people, it's a good thing.

This old hag should shut the fuck up, she hasn't changed her ways in 100 years, what the fuck is that.
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Madeline Scotto has gone through a lot of math teaching methods.

At age 100, she still teaches at Brooklyn's St. Ephrem's School.

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