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The Christ Conundrum

 
Bunji  (OP)

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So then this begs the question, why would anyone be fooled by the AC?
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Fake miracles, appealing to the ego (don't underestimate the power of the Ego to justify just about anything to anyone at any time,) appearing to solve world problems...

The antichrist is logical, practical...right place/right time.

Jesus isn't interested in saving this system, or putting a Band-Aid on things.

Antichrist says "We can fix this"
Christ says "Let it burn"

So to speak.

It is not intuitive to most that the savior would prefer to let it collapse and burn. It seems cold-hearted and merciless, but Christ and those in him know a deeper spiritual truth about the nature of material life in this age. It's going to be okay.

Most Christians do not even understand this, they are ripe to be deceived in this manner.
 Quoting: Rat_In_A_Cage


I personally think the bibles, all of them are weaponised tools of alchemy, not intended to actually solve any problems at all.

I don't know most Christians, I don't even know a whole lot of people in comparison to the amount of people on the planet.

Let me ask you a question though, a serious one. Does a thread like this upset you?
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I personally think the bibles, all of them are weaponised tools of alchemy, not intended to actually solve any problems at all.

I don't know most Christians, I don't even know a whole lot of people in comparison to the amount of people on the planet.

Let me ask you a question though, a serious one. Does a thread like this upset you?
 Quoting: Bunji


On the contrary, I deeply appreciate any and all opportunities to try to straighten out misunderstandings about Christianity. I have been blessed with insight into things that elude a great many people, and been given clues to even deeper mysteries that I don't even fully understand but may inspire someone else with by trying to put it into words.

My only regret is that I run out of time, and the next day the thread is dead. Start over again from the beginning.

Edit to add:

Alchemy: yes. Alchemy of the soul Base matter (Flesh) into Gold (Spirit in God)

Christ's sacrifice is the Philosopher's Stone.

It's all in there.

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Actually the AC died on the cross for our sins.
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that would be a virtual and literal impossibility in fact

lol
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What if Jesus was Iron Man?


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I always wondered about a scenario where the people would be disappointed on Jesus.

Like, my life sucks. If Jesus comes back now, Ive done nothing with my life. Have really no expectations of afterlife rewards and so on.

Some people just dont like the idea of needing to be saved, or requiring evaluation of their savior to believe or having someone having ascendency over them, or worshipping someone and so fort. Im just the equivalent of a disciple, I dont love him very much, because I havent been forgiven much. But havent done any works or produced anything worth of mention.

This is mainly for the little children, children of pride of Gospel of Matthew. The publicans, pharisees, jews, illuminati and overal the elite who have preconceived notions of who Jesus was, what he achieved or didnt achieved or private historical records that may invalidate the belief on Jesus and so on...

So for this people, a new christ will be provided, maybe two or three, at the same time at different places, or in succession. Maybe intended to succeed, or to fail, to raise up or to cause to fall, to deceive or to reveal or both.
Lots of possibilities.

Of course most of the narratives you have are either provided by the elite, or specific churches or types of religions such as messianic shia, or protestants or seven day adventists and so on.

Rest assured that there is a plan by the Father, or Satan, or God, or Jesus or all of them and the angels and demons and stuff are all working on it.
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This is a hypothetical scenario, not based on any facts.
I really just want to see what people think, assuming they want to think, would happen if the following events played out.

Again I must remind people this is a hypothetical scenario.

What if the Anti Christ arrives first and realises that they are the AC. Then the Christ arrives and realises they are Christ.

They both realise it doesn't matter what they are, only what people believe. Since a large portion of the religious population would expect the AC first, what if the AC just laughed and walked away.

Where would that leave Christ?
 Quoting: Bunji



I hardly see any intelligent questions on GLP, this is one of them.


The scripture has what I call modifiers of prophecy.

Everything is labels. Generic frames where the people that will fulfill the prophecies may or may not fit.


Christ and Antichrist are modal labels, like Satan or God.

They dont refer to specific beings, but are titles.
Whomsoever saves or do the work of a savior becomes the christ.
Whomsoever opposes a christ is the antichrist.
whomsoever is worshipped is a god
whomsoever opposes a god is an adversary/satan.

You hardly have any objective elements to hold on to. Like traits, genres, behaviours, laws, teachings, commandments, acts, etc. Everything has to be analysed like if it was Math. Or else its just religion, due to the skepticism. But since it is religion, then I guess people always have the right to not believe.





Person A, is becoming AntiChrist, see that he is moving to a precipice. Jumps from the car moving. Saves himself from the consequences written on the book for the character acting as antichrist.

This possibility is allowed and presented on the end of Revelation.

Antichrist role becomes open. Someone else comes.

Of course there are lures to step into the position. Like being subject to sins and subjecting others to sin.

There are many antichrists.

Antichrist is seen as the bad guy.


Even the way of interpreting the role is totally modal.

Because the acts of the antichrist are not described in an objectively and undeniably negative way towards all groups of people. It might be negative towards the elite only, or Jesus, or Jesus Christ, or the very elect, or the people of one religion or another and so on.


When the person who is traditionally linked to the antichrist is described, there are ways to interpret its actions as positive, or silly, or neutral or even comedic.

The language used on the Bible is highly simbolic, parabolic, metaphorical, alegorical...

Some only interpret a character such as the antichrist as someone who is likened to Adolf Hitler.

But such is not absolute truth.

Antichrist could be any person opposing the christ, or the two witnesses.



Imagine you have 3 people, if two get together, they become the two witnesses, the third who is annoyed or jealous of them could become the antichrist. At some point, one of the two witnesses might become false or stop witnessing, and the person who was to be the antichrist might become a witness instead. And the person who was a former witness, could then position itself and ending up being the antichrist after all.


You have to look for the minimum objective denominator, the core, the bone structure of what each label indicating a subject, each verb indicating an action, each circunstance, each relationship between characters and so on.

Its all about points of view being different.


Satan can be against Satan.
Wich could just be a description of a husband and a wife dwelling together.

Iran calls Israel - Satan
Israel calls Iran - Satan


They could be just Judah and Israel, two brothers. All is allegory.
Issac and Ishmael.


Does this answer your question properly?
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Yeah it does provide good insight. Thanks for this contribution. It does make sense to me.
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The antichrist is the Roman Catholic Church. No other church on this planet is so blasphemous, so blatantly contradictory to the Word, so assuming in Divine Power, so entrenched and blended with false religions, and so murderous. And yet for all this.... people still do not believe.

As if Rome has had a change of heart. If she even had the glory, power, dominion, and position she had formerly before, every person, Christian, atheist, etc. who rejected her power, or could not be kept alive to do her will, would be slaughtered.

To God's children still stuck within the walls of the Catholic Church:


Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Sunday laws are coming. The oppressiveness of false religion is coming back. Sylvia Allen recently made a statement proposing a law, which she claimed would never be debated. Problem is, this law is exactly what Rome wants. She is testing the waters. See how the people react. If people make a big hoopla about it, they have choices. Force the people to want it. Or wait and try again later.

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Since a large portion of the religious population would expect the AC first, what if the AC just laughed and walked away.

Where would that leave Christ?
 Quoting: Bunji


I think this is an interesting question.
At first I thought this too.

The first one to pop the head out and make a claim gets hammered, popamole style.

But then I realized there was a role behind it. Something not necessary evil. I realized the antichrist is justified. The punishment described could be interpreted as a reward. The actions of the antichrist could actually be positive.

What is written is just a framework. What happens is what will define the person and be evaluated. So before its set on stone, there are many interpretations.

Im very imaginative, so when I read things there I imediately interpret good things as possibly being bad, or apparent bad things as potentially good.


The same person can actually roleplay more than one role at the same time, or different roles successively, or be seen by one group, lets say Protestants as Antichrist, by another as Christ, and by Muslims as Maddi. The Dajjal of the Muslims could be the Christ. The Christ of the muslims could end up being the antichrist and so on.

You can get people in certain positions and within their areas and religions they can be heroes if they follow the flow. If they act in a way that is not expected by that group of people, then said person will be labeled the satan/evil one.

Its all too modal when you zoom in on it. Until you get antagonists in positions of religious, political, economic influence and Analise all actors through the different religious texts and within the same texts, even completely inverted interpretations are possible.



Its like a strategy game, or one of those card games. Each player plays its cards, in its own turn and the cards cause effects on people and allies help and enemies hinder. Until all cards are played and everything is revealed.

If you are a Christian, you are expected to see one or more pretenders and false prophets, false christs and antichrists. So for Christians, its just a matter of not changing belief, nor worshipping anyone until the true one comes and is undeniable. Coming in the clouds, in the blink of an eye, coming as lightining or something. But before that, you will hear rumors of wars, hear people talking about christ here, christ there, christ in the desert, christ in the secret chambers...
As a Christian all you have to do is not believe anything else and keep to yourself, or create nucleous groups of resistence and opposition towards the characters who are labeled by other groups as christs etc...

For each religion there is a public expectation.
And people WILL find fault until the end comes.
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In this scenario there is a large portion of the population so brainwashed they cant think anymore.

The two are also twins, equally matched, equally fair. In fact, the bipolar nature of the planet ultimately determines who is good or bad, not the twins themselves.

Now if the people decided who was who, and one of the twins said, nah I am not going to play that role, the other twin has pretty much no platform to be anything other then the AC or nothing.

Its just a scenario, fictional for some, real for others.

But never the less, what are the implications of a scenario like this?
 Quoting: Bunji


it works in a system of weights and balances, actions and reactions, sins and baits


God
The Lord
the second coming of Christ
Jesus
The queen of heaven
mystery babylon
the antichrist
the false prophet
the dajjal of muslims
the maddi of muslims
the messiah
witness one (true)
witness two (true)
witness three (false)
the beast one
the beast two
the dragon
the serpent
the woman
the stars
the sun
the moon
the eagle
the four living creatures
etc


All of these are labels.
And there are all the 7 this, 7 that... angels, kings, etc...


You right now, is just mentioning 2 beings, you call twins.

Im quite sure, that those roles are INTERCHANGEABLE DURING THE SHOW.

And then you have temporal aspects. 1 character, then character 2, then 3, together or successively.

then you have the spacial aspects. some happen on earth, some on sea, some on kingdom of heaven, some on heaven...


and that is just revelations.
and revelations itself is totally modal

"whomsoever add unto these, God shall add the plagues written on this book,etc"
"whomsoever remove from these, God shall remove of the book of life and so on"

And this is about the possibility of the revelations script playing completelly as written, or partially, or regarding actors playing the roles of those labels or abstaining from doing so due to fear, or presence or absence of incentive.


Then we have all the rest of the Bible, which pretty much is prophecy, the more non prophecy it looks, the more prophecy it is.

I read pretty much everything as potential crumbs of bread of prophecy. I think the most clear events of the things that will definately intended by God to happen on the front of everyone are the most ancient, the books of moses ones, primarily Genesis. To me the end is written in Genesis, just so God could show its power an awe everyone and things that will impress people.

There are things there that could literally describe how the actors to whom the labels of revelation pertain will act between or against each other. This can be seen or not, but highly unlikely to be proven until manifested.
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There are things there that could literally describe how the actors to whom the labels of revelation pertain will act between or against each other. This can be seen or not, but highly unlikely to be proven until manifested.
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Yes, and:

Revelation is Astrology in text, essentially, so there is the possibility that what are referred to as individuals in that book are actually influences on mass bodies of individuals, nations, incidents, etc or all of the above.

Because revelation is based on astrology, the events it describes are cyclical and universally applicable to any situation (Nero) provided the stars are aligned (more or less) to the text and vice-versa.

It may also explain why there is a false tribulation before the real one.

So next time some a-hole says "Revelation already happened, bro..." your answer is yes, Revelation is a cycle and comes around every so often, but not yet PERFECTLY.

Just like there were many false messiahs we've all heard about from Zeitgeist and the like with similar stories. Astrology=More than once, but perfection is singularity.
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u also have to consider what non abrahamic religions believe as well... but most events are expected to happen within the area of belief/territory held by jews/christians/muslims.

then u have the new age, and whatever new gospel have been prepared, the things that are intended to be taught, or revelead by the people in power...

all the spiritual events or perception/awakening changes, or miracles and wonders, and false doctrines and scandals...

wild stuff.


Then there are those who will just go about their business and remain separated from all of it. But a lot of people who dont do that will be influenced to the core, mind, soul, heart, strenght :D


i just hope for the best for everyone hehe
hope that no matter what happens it was ordained from foundations of the world and there is a happy ending.

yeah, but i know there will be a lot of physical violence and destitution for a lot of people. but this also is meant to happen. or it was allowed to happen or expected to happen.
like it happens every day.

still hope for the best.

then there is the possibility that everything is just a huge mind fuck and nothing of the good things will happen as promised or written. but i think it will just appear that way, so that people are tested to the core.
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There are things there that could literally describe how the actors to whom the labels of revelation pertain will act between or against each other. This can be seen or not, but highly unlikely to be proven until manifested.
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Yes, and:

Revelation is Astrology in text, essentially, so there is the possibility that what are referred to as individuals in that book are actually influences on mass bodies of individuals, nations, incidents, etc or all of the above.

Because revelation is based on astrology, the events it describes are cyclical and universally applicable to any situation (Nero) provided the stars are aligned (more or less) to the text and vice-versa.

It may also explain why there is a false tribulation before the real one.

So next time some a-hole says "Revelation already happened, bro..." your answer is yes, Revelation is a cycle and comes around every so often, but not yet PERFECTLY.

Just like there were many false messiahs we've all heard about from Zeitgeist and the like with similar stories. Astrology=More than once, but perfection is singularity.
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yeah
i see the power of god being so great that he could actually

play the whole bible as the script for the life of many people

many times to many people, through out history

some sort of personal legend, the person realizing it or not

then there is different levels at which it can cause effect

it can happen literally, like those japanese animes
it can happen antropologically, like a soap opera big brother style
it can happen spiritually, where only the angels would see it unfolding, or we could see it retroactivelly after death, or after the removal of the veil at some point
it can happen spacially somewhere on earth, like russia, us, china, iran, israel and these places could be ascribed labels too, such as earth, heaven, sea or spiritual names or different names or current names
it can happen astrological/astronomically like the movement of the stars, constelations, signs, planets moving and aligning themselves in a way that match the revelations


each type of manifestation of the word of God could target a different demographic. Literal manifestation could be the end one, in a fearsome scenario where the LORD decides to really armaggedom everything. This would make everyone perceive it.

it could happen antropologically in a way that right after the fact, the story is told and shown, through the media, the scriptures, characters currently living what is written, or through movies, music and so on... assuming the culture creators illuminati have planned for a disclosure of their interpretations of scripture and matching of the real life counterparts of the stories as they occur. ->this one sounds deceiving and inefficient

the astronomical or astrological manifestation could target a specific learned initiated demographic and could be used to represent reality or cause confusion by God


everything is up for grabs.

for all i know the scripture could manifest in someones life the moment they start reading the bible/scriptures and identifying themselves with characters or groups of characters.

I think it was written in a way so open ended, that it ends up affecting everyone in the way intended.
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I think it was written in a way so open ended, that it ends up affecting everyone in the way intended.
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Nostradamus, to a lesser degree, operates in this way.
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Is anyone capable of actually thinking about this scenario?
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We are incapable of actually understanding what the point of this exercise is?

You probably have a foregone conclusion you are trying to lure people to? Cut to the chase.
 Quoting: Rat_In_A_Cage


Ok, if I can think of this, then its already thought of.
I am seriously seeing if people can think here or just react.

The point, I just explained.
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After I read the Bible for two years, a high percentage of every disney video, hollywood movie, japanese anime, musics,
lyrics and stuff

seem to be inspired or revolving around the expected unfolding of the prophecies.


I listen to a random song, or pick a random magazine, or watch a new movie... And its like Im surrounded by it.

Like the Lion King movie. In Brazil it was the movie that played on Christmas on television. But most people dont get what the characters represent.

Then I just read a manga called Gantz, and its all unfolding of prophecy, protagonist being the chosen one, going through the sun turning to darkness and moon to blood, the day of the lord after, the fight with the giants, etc...

I realized that anything made or published by illuminati, culturally, its tied to it, from names of cars, symbols on money, statues, events...

Its all about the same recurring themes. All the love songs, in different languages.

It all tell the same tale, or the same, or very close interpretation of the bible, or what happened in the time of jesus and john, adam and eve, and so on...


So in resume, once you have read the Bible for yourself, or have an idea of the beliefs and expectations of the people behind the creators of said content (the mysteries), its like a huge percentage of stuff is actually GOSPELL

But not openly, but veiled. Like Operas, famous literature, those famous books that people consider science fiction, star wars, tolkien, huxley, etc... its all veiled private interpretation of the gospels

so what you are asking...

Do people think about these hypothetical scenarios? Dude, for thousands of years, each year the more, its the reason why the illuminati exist, they obsess over it, the whole hierarchies in spirit, angels and stuff work 24/7 in flesh/mind/soul to imprint their hope through inspiration.


the only problem is that these people who took this elite task, ended up abusing too much of the people in the piramide, too many suffering and injustices.

so the overall effect and fruits are bad.

need fruits meet for repentence.

but all of this is part of gods plan, that at the end, nobody knows what is going to happen, except those who imagine the best possible scenario thinking the whole thing as a father-son teaching story.
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just so you have an idea

today I picked something on a song.



Deftones = One Week


The official lyroics say this:
Nerve, Here I borned feeding on his lung
But its actually sung:
Noor, here I born feed my islam

The rest of the song is the same thing
what is official, is not what is actually sang.

Noor means light, and its coincidentally the name of Noor Pahlavi, the heir to the Iran throne, supposedly one the two witness, the female, that could potentially fulfill a role in the gospel and cause a global effect on middle east.

Its a song about the story of the character that supposedly rejected an arranged marriage, or alchemical marriage. "because he wanted to meet christ alone" like saying this person is incarnation of the divine feminine or her daughter.

So these slips happens over and over, on hundreds of "culture", but u only get these things if you are either what they call initiated, or you have somehow read and understood the bible and invisioned the events in real life worldwide say thinking (if such and such were to happen to according to what is written here, how it would go down, where it would happen, who would have to do what, what are these nations, who are these characters and then investigated and managed to read from the sidelines at the right spots)

eventually a huge % of all movies and stuff (like even japanese video games like final fantasy, or classics like chrone trigger are all about end times scriptures, so there would be no way that it would not be figured out by whomsoever identified themselves) start depicting the characters as they were expected to manifest/awaken.
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It could almost be a movie.

In reality, Jesus' return would not be anything like that, even if he were coming back as a human again, he would be who he is, not an antichrist, regardless of any interpretation of scripture.
 Quoting: kk 65624553


if jesus were the christ and another christ showed up, he could be antichrist of that christ for some reason, for a wife, or for the souls of the believers, pretty simple allegiance warfare

if 1=1
then 1+1 != 1
its pretty simple math.
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I appreciate all of your thoughts here ACBulgaria.
Even thought here isn't a whole lot here to read, there is a megaton of information to work with.

Cheers mate :)
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enjoy the cookies
keep your faith
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enjoy the cookies
keep your faith
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Of course. My faith is in people. That one day, thinking will be common practice.

I really enjoyed the way you wrote and the ideas you presented on this thread.
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I miss the old you
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I miss the old you
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Nah, you don't. We never met, only net, so there is that ;)
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This is a hypothetical scenario, not based on any facts.
I really just want to see what people think, assuming they want to think, would happen if the following events played out.

Again I must remind people this is a hypothetical scenario.

What if the Anti Christ arrives first and realises that they are the AC. Then the Christ arrives and realises they are Christ.

They both realise it doesn't matter what they are, only what people believe. Since a large portion of the religious population would expect the AC first, what if the AC just laughed and walked away.

Where would that leave Christ?
 Quoting: Bunji


There would be no difference between their actions, but marketing is everything. Maybe one would care about their image the other wouldn't give a fig.

1rof1
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This is a hypothetical scenario, not based on any facts.
I really just want to see what people think, assuming they want to think, would happen if the following events played out.

Again I must remind people this is a hypothetical scenario.

What if the Anti Christ arrives first and realises that they are the AC. Then the Christ arrives and realises they are Christ.

They both realise it doesn't matter what they are, only what people believe. Since a large portion of the religious population would expect the AC first, what if the AC just laughed and walked away.

Where would that leave Christ?
 Quoting: Bunji


There would be no difference between their actions, but marketing is everything. Maybe one would care about their image the other wouldn't give a fig.

1rof1
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By geez by jingo by crikey, you might be onto something here lol
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This is a hypothetical scenario, not based on any facts.
I really just want to see what people think, assuming they want to think, would happen if the following events played out.

Again I must remind people this is a hypothetical scenario.

What if the Anti Christ arrives first and realises that they are the AC. Then the Christ arrives and realises they are Christ.

They both realise it doesn't matter what they are, only what people believe. Since a large portion of the religious population would expect the AC first, what if the AC just laughed and walked away.

Where would that leave Christ?
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There would be no difference between their actions, but marketing is everything. Maybe one would care about their image the other wouldn't give a fig.

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By geez by jingo by crikey, you might be onto something here lol
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oh my love what a box of horrors ... we see the flip sides of everything ... but when we stand in the middle of the paradox ... its all about getting the result or achieving the objective.

Christ may hold your hand, but the anti-christ will just punch you, maybe they take us to the same place but just in different ways, the sad truth is that the anti probably does it quicker with less pain.

We all have preferences, and some life experiences can be more damaging in the long haul even tho the journey might be quicker.

All teachers have their own methods and we gravitate towards what we find easiest perhaps? hf
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This is a hypothetical scenario, not based on any facts.
I really just want to see what people think, assuming they want to think, would happen if the following events played out.

Again I must remind people this is a hypothetical scenario.

What if the Anti Christ arrives first and realises that they are the AC. Then the Christ arrives and realises they are Christ.

They both realise it doesn't matter what they are, only what people believe. Since a large portion of the religious population would expect the AC first, what if the AC just laughed and walked away.

Where would that leave Christ?
 Quoting: Bunji


There would be no difference between their actions, but marketing is everything. Maybe one would care about their image the other wouldn't give a fig.

1rof1
 Quoting: song 62322378


By geez by jingo by crikey, you might be onto something here lol
 Quoting: Bunji


oh my love what a box of horrors ... we see the flip sides of everything ... but when we stand in the middle of the paradox ... its all about getting the result or achieving the objective.

Christ may hold your hand, but the anti-christ will just punch you, maybe they take us to the same place but just in different ways, the sad truth is that the anti probably does it quicker with less pain.

We all have preferences, and some life experiences can be more damaging in the long haul even tho the journey might be quicker.

All teachers have their own methods and we gravitate towards what we find easiest perhaps? hf
 Quoting: song 62322378


I just wanted to say, thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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In this scenario there is a large portion of the population so brainwashed they cant think anymore.

The two are also twins, equally matched, equally fair. In fact, the bipolar nature of the planet ultimately determines who is good or bad, not the twins themselves.

Now if the people decided who was who, and one of the twins said, nah I am not going to play that role, the other twin has pretty much no platform to be anything other then the AC or nothing.

Its just a scenario, fictional for some, real for others.

But never the less, what are the implications of a scenario like this?
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Nothing.
Because it's just a rehashed Mormonism.
Good is.
But man likes to believe that good and evil are two sides of the same coin, which is ultimately to believe the serpent's lie to justify our own ungodliness.
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In this scenario there is a large portion of the population so brainwashed they cant think anymore.

The two are also twins, equally matched, equally fair. In fact, the bipolar nature of the planet ultimately determines who is good or bad, not the twins themselves.

Now if the people decided who was who, and one of the twins said, nah I am not going to play that role, the other twin has pretty much no platform to be anything other then the AC or nothing.

Its just a scenario, fictional for some, real for others.

But never the less, what are the implications of a scenario like this?
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they are the duality of each other they would probably get on the piss and talk it over best case scenario?
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In this scenario there is a large portion of the population so brainwashed they cant think anymore.

The two are also twins, equally matched, equally fair. In fact, the bipolar nature of the planet ultimately determines who is good or bad, not the twins themselves.

Now if the people decided who was who, and one of the twins said, nah I am not going to play that role, the other twin has pretty much no platform to be anything other then the AC or nothing.

Its just a scenario, fictional for some, real for others.

But never the less, what are the implications of a scenario like this?
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they are the duality of each other they would probably get on the piss and talk it over best case scenario?
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It is definitely a possibility.
They might say something like this...

C: Can you believe these motherfuckers want us to play rolls. Like who do they think we are the baker boys?

AC: Hey you know what would be cool. Lets play humans this time, see what happens.

C: Haha yeah good one Lou, they will have you upside down for your lunch money in no time.





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