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ABORTION = WORST THING IN THIS WORLD

 
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The closest comparative thing in this world to the love given by God is the love given by a mother to her child. The love God gives is the best thing in existance and the love given by a mother is the best thing that exists in this world.

Many religions and spiritual pracitses on earth conclude that there is a a supreme organising force that links and relates to everything that exists and gives facility to all relationships.

The supreme organising force must be personal as personality is the most supremely valuable thing in existance. Of valuable things we can see the supremacy of personality in many places, for example at a business where people eat and drink they put many chairs at each table instead of one chair for every one table as people value being with other people . Chairs, tables, food, drink, knowledge and intelligence are all material things and are all necessary to construct the business but personality is the most supremely valuable as it binds all the things and by it's association gives and defines the value of all the things. If the supreme organising force was only impersonal without a personal feature this would either negate the value of personality or negate the supremacy of the organising force. Neither of these are negated as both are necessary for existance thus the supreme organising force is a person.

The supremacy of personal relationships give value to and define the values of all other relationships in existance.
All the good things in this world give and maintain life but when that life is given and maintained by a mother that relationship makes the life given not just another good thing in this world but the best thing in this world. All the bad things in this world destroy life but when that life is destroyed by a mother then it becomes not just another bad thing in this world but the worst thing in this world. This means abortion as a debatable issue is the most clear cut issue in existance as the opposing sides are both the best thing in this world and the worst thing in this world.

The term liminality refers to a transitory or in-between state that is characterised by indeterminicy. Liminality can be seen in nature in both twilight and tidal areas where the beach meets the sea. At twilight there is no time when the sun is fully present or fully abesent and at the coast there is no fixed point where both the beach and waterline either begin or end, similarly there is no point in pregnancy where the person in the childs body is fully absent and because of the limits of the material mind and body there is no point in their life in this material world where that persons spiritual/personal presence is fully manifested.

According to the laws of nature the human society protect the younger. Only when society is dysfunctional do the older harm the younger. In a human society children being the younger are protected, women are also given proctection although children being the younger are given preferential protection as they are younger and also as it is somtimes the women themselves who are protecting the children. In a human society the younger a person is the more protection they recieve and the more preference is given to that protection. Aborting a child that is the product of rape or incest with the intention of protecting the mental and physical health of the pregnant woman is unjust as the child being the younger is entitled by natural law to preferential protection above that of the woman.
Aborting with intention to kill a child thats occupation of a womb may cause fatality to the pregnant mother is unjust as it may be necessary to remove the child from the womb to prevent two deaths of both child and mother but once the child has been removed from the womb it is neither just nor necessary to terminate the life of the child.
If a child cannot survive outside the womb after being necessarily removed and death occurs naturally then no injustice has been intended or enacted.
There is no just reason to intentionally terminate the life of a defenseless child during precgancy.
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I am a proud abortist.
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The closest comparative thing in this world to the love given by God is the love given by a mother to her child.
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I would honestly have to say it's the other way around.
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The closest comparative thing in this world to the love given by God is the love given by a mother to her child. The love God gives is the best thing in existance and the love given by a mother is the best thing that exists in this world.

Many religions and spiritual pracitses on earth conclude that there is a a supreme organising force that links and relates to everything that exists and gives facility to all relationships.

The supreme organising force must be personal as personality is the most supremely valuable thing in existance. Of valuable things we can see the supremacy of personality in many places, for example at a business where people eat and drink they put many chairs at each table instead of one chair for every one table as people value being with other people . Chairs, tables, food, drink, knowledge and intelligence are all material things and are all necessary to construct the business but personality is the most supremely valuable as it binds all the things and by it's association gives and defines the value of all the things. If the supreme organising force was only impersonal without a personal feature this would either negate the value of personality or negate the supremacy of the organising force. Neither of these are negated as both are necessary for existance thus the supreme organising force is a person.

The supremacy of personal relationships give value to and define the values of all other relationships in existance.
All the good things in this world give and maintain life but when that life is given and maintained by a mother that relationship makes the life given not just another good thing in this world but the best thing in this world. All the bad things in this world destroy life but when that life is destroyed by a mother then it becomes not just another bad thing in this world but the worst thing in this world. This means abortion as a debatable issue is the most clear cut issue in existance as the opposing sides are both the best thing in this world and the worst thing in this world.

The term liminality refers to a transitory or in-between state that is characterised by indeterminicy. Liminality can be seen in nature in both twilight and tidal areas where the beach meets the sea. At twilight there is no time when the sun is fully present or fully abesent and at the coast there is no fixed point where both the beach and waterline either begin or end, similarly there is no point in pregnancy where the person in the childs body is fully absent and because of the limits of the material mind and body there is no point in their life in this material world where that persons spiritual/personal presence is fully manifested.

According to the laws of nature the human society protect the younger. Only when society is dysfunctional do the older harm the younger. In a human society children being the younger are protected, women are also given proctection although children being the younger are given preferential protection as they are younger and also as it is somtimes the women themselves who are protecting the children. In a human society the younger a person is the more protection they recieve and the more preference is given to that protection. Aborting a child that is the product of rape or incest with the intention of protecting the mental and physical health of the pregnant woman is unjust as the child being the younger is entitled by natural law to preferential protection above that of the woman.
Aborting with intention to kill a child thats occupation of a womb may cause fatality to the pregnant mother is unjust as it may be necessary to remove the child from the womb to prevent two deaths of both child and mother but once the child has been removed from the womb it is neither just nor necessary to terminate the life of the child.
If a child cannot survive outside the womb after being necessarily removed and death occurs naturally then no injustice has been intended or enacted.
There is no just reason to intentionally terminate the life of a defenseless child during precgancy.
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The worst thing? What even worse than massacres of already living people?
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"abortion is wrong" --- yet supports sending 17 year olds overseas to be blown up to pieces

Lol which one is it. In one a child is being endangered, while in the other a non sentient fetus is.
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The soul of a woman was created BELOW.

Fuck the medical whores who do the sacrifice(s) as well.
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I thought that Obama was the worst thing in this world.
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The closest comparative thing in this world to the love given by God is the love given by a mother to her child.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091



I would honestly have to say it's the other way around.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


If you say its the other way around that means you think that both types of love exist, God's love is the standard against which all love is compared and also all mothers get the love they give from God anyway.

Comparing the other way around would be like comparing a battery to a power station.
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"abortion is wrong" --- yet supports sending 17 year olds overseas to be blown up to pieces

Lol which one is it. In one a child is being endangered, while in the other a non sentient fetus is.
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Both are FUCKED...but one does not justify the OTHER...
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The closest comparative thing in this world to the love given by God is the love given by a mother to her child.
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I would honestly have to say it's the other way around.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


If you say its the other way around that means you think that both types of love exist, God's love is the standard against which all love is compared and also all mothers get the love they give from God anyway.

Comparing the other way around would be like comparing a battery to a power station.
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OP=1
MO=0
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I am a proud abortist.
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You are a troll. No one is proud to have an abortion. It is a horrible event. However an embryo is not a Child Nor a person. Abortion should be legal during the first teen weeks of a pregnancy and banned after that period,
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If you say its the other way around that means you think that both types of love exist, God's love is the standard against which all love is compared and also all mothers get the love they give from God anyway.

Comparing the other way around would be like comparing a battery to a power station.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091




The baby's love for their mother is the same love God shows us… there's basically nothing more pure.

"What came first, the chicken or the egg" does not apply here.
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The worst thing? What even worse than massacres of already living people?
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v. simple , the smaller the person you kill the more guilty you are, so if people have already been living for a while their massacre isnt as bad as the same number of tiny new people, simple example most can understand is its worse for a grown man to stab a child than another grown man
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I am a proud abortist.
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You are a troll. No one is proud to have an abortion. It is a horrible event. However an embryo is not a Child Nor a person. Abortion should be legal during the first teen weeks of a pregnancy and banned after that period,
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WTF? You think early term abortion is any different?

After further deliberation, OP is a dumb ass
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Yet what is to xx ion? This code overwhelmed at times.
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I mean seriously, if you want to compare a mother's love for her baby to God's love for us…

You're basically calling God (cuz you're using these terms and all) a filthy sinning whore.

Mother's love is from a standpoint of having been used and sullied by this world…

Babies are brand new and know absolutely NOTHING besides love for the mother. It's unconditional and completely untouched by any other elements… God's love is pure like that.
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If you wont be taking care of the kid, why do you care what happens to it? Do you seriously expect a woman contemplating abortion because, say for example, she has no money or lives in an unstable environment that will endanger the child, to listen to someone who wont even be taking care of the child?
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If you say its the other way around that means you think that both types of love exist, God's love is the standard against which all love is compared and also all mothers get the love they give from God anyway.

Comparing the other way around would be like comparing a battery to a power station.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091




The baby's love for their mother is the same love God shows us… there's basically nothing more pure.

"What came first, the chicken or the egg" does not apply here.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


The baby's love is selfish and self centered. It parasitically depends on the parent for survival.

Not so the mother/child bond. Pure self sacrifice...except for the crack whore moms..they don't apply here

MO is correct here, although a dumb ass in other areas.
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Maybe people should not have sex until ready for children. Its a wretched thing, on the part of the parents, for a child to be the unintended byproduct of immoral conduct.

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If you say its the other way around that means you think that both types of love exist, God's love is the standard against which all love is compared and also all mothers get the love they give from God anyway.

Comparing the other way around would be like comparing a battery to a power station.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091




The baby's love for their mother is the same love God shows us… there's basically nothing more pure.

"What came first, the chicken or the egg" does not apply here.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


wern't talkin bout the love from the baby to the mother, it was from the mother to the baby. Both God and the mother are giving a providing type of love where they give and provide, the baby's love would be less love and more acceptance and joy at having someone who cares. not sayin there is no love in children but its tiny compared to the mature love of God or mother.
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ABORTION = WORST THING IN THIS WORLD

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091


According to you:

Abortion = End of life
End of life = Worst thing in the world.


If that was the case, then no one would take their life.
But people do and it is common.
Therefor: logic fail

Pain and suffering is what you might be looking for.
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not sayin there is no love in children but its tiny compared to the mature love of God or mother.
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Wow, just wow. What a statement coming from someone who's so pissed off about abortion.

No, the baby who stares at his mother's face in constant pure love and adoration while held in her embrace DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE TOTES MATURE LOVE OF GOD OR HOBAG MOMMY!

rofl
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If you wont be taking care of the kid, why do you care what happens to it? Do you seriously expect a woman contemplating abortion because, say for example, she has no money or lives in an unstable environment that will endanger the child, to listen to someone who wont even be taking care of the child?
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any life is better than being killed, its a real situation the person is alive from the first insant of conception aand any killing after than is killing, any life situation is better than death because no matter how bad it is or what you
lose in that situation you lose everything at death so it contains all the loss from all other situations, example in one situation you might have to live with only one arm wheras at death you loose two arms.
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OP, for you lol
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If you wont be taking care of the kid, why do you care what happens to it? Do you seriously expect a woman contemplating abortion because, say for example, she has no money or lives in an unstable environment that will endanger the child, to listen to someone who wont even be taking care of the child?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45560211


any life is better than being killed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091


That is simply not true.
People commit suicide.

It is all about quality (of life), not quantity
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ABORTION = WORST THING IN THIS WORLD

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091


According to you:

Abortion = End of life
End of life = Worst thing in the world.


If that was the case, then no one would take their life.
But people do and it is common.
Therefor: logic fail

Pain and suffering is what you might be looking for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61404407


The level of awareness of a soul at any given moment is beyond what most people know, physical suffering is less than mental and mental suffering is less than emotional.

The worst torture doest create pain as deep or powerful as a mother setting down her infant child and in full view of the child walking away and not returning.
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OP, for you lol

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George Carlin is burning in hell and when you get there can you tell him you and him were wrong?
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I am a proud abortist.
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I pray I get to see your face when you stand before God Almighty and hear the sentence handed down on you for all of eternity.

You're a filthy demon.
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If you wont be taking care of the kid, why do you care what happens to it? Do you seriously expect a woman contemplating abortion because, say for example, she has no money or lives in an unstable environment that will endanger the child, to listen to someone who wont even be taking care of the child?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45560211


any life is better than being killed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62423091


That is simply not true.
People commit suicide.

It is all about quality (of life), not quantity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61404407


People do all sorts of things that are wrong but they do them anyway including suicide.

and once a life is exisiting it is about quality, killing ruins the quality
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OP, for you lol

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Lilac Nights, I pray I get to see your face when you stand before God Almighty and hear the sentence handed down on you for all of eternity.

You're a filthy demon.





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