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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44353767 United States 05/20/2014 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel bad for you with him having reactions and then the nuts say they gave him the shots too early, so lets give him repeats?! I do know that here in the U.S., you can get the shots individually, so the chances of reaction are lower and if there is a reaction, you will know what it is. There are so many more shots required since my kids were little. If I knew then, what I know now, I wouldn't get the shots. I don't know how things work over there, but know your rights and do what you feel is bed for your child. I have little confidence in all these vaccinations and I worry with their being so many now. Best to you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44353767 United States 05/20/2014 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | P.S.- I never get the fluoride treatments for my kids or myself at the dentist and it pisses them off as they lose some more cash from the insurance company. As far as getting old fillings out, make sure the dentist has the proper system to remove them. You are exposed to more mercury when they take the filling out, than by leaving them in your mouth. I wanted to get mine out too, but my dentist showed me the 3 she had and said when she finds a safe way to take them out, she will take out mine and hers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47214443 United States 05/20/2014 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By now the vaccine debate has been fully aired out. DO your research and make a decision. No matter what the authorities and experts state to the contrary, you are the guardian of your kids health and well being. Read a book by Dr Mendelsohn, an american pediatrician who will give you the straight poop on everything you need to know. I can vouch for his advice and it served me well. Just remember that if/when things go south, the so-called experts will be nowhere to be found. Either way, you're in it ALONE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3895861 United States 05/20/2014 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you make up excuses and stuff to stall. I am vaccine injured and disabled (anthrax) so I really stretched and stalled to,give my son as much time as possible. Is this legal in your country? My son does have what he needs for school here but I really was last possible minute and especially tried to make it past two for most stuff. Really put off the MMR as long as possible and could because he was in private school till 1st grade. Good luck I know this is hard. |
bornatexan
User ID: 58266636 United States 05/20/2014 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He also might be furious and traumatized from being held Down for all those shots and the rage is his way of dealing with it. If ur Dr. Over pressures you then change Dr.'s. He may need a repeat but unless he is in daycare waiting one month or six months won't hurt him unless he gets the measles as that virus is on the rise in certain states. I moved in with my elderly parents after my dad had a stroke 2 years ago. Now we are like the three muscateers. I kept buying gallons of water and can goods each time I went for groceries and if on-sale stacks of bottled water...finally Mama politely asked whats up with all the water. I finally came out and told her. I think it went well, the other day she was talking to a real estate lady. I asked why? She said , I was reading and we need a bug-out place...hehe true story! Well enough about me. |
bornatexan
User ID: 58266636 United States 05/20/2014 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out these sites about requirements for daycare and school and also conscientious objection to vaccine form. [link to www.dshs.state.tx.us] [link to www.dshs.state.tx.us] I moved in with my elderly parents after my dad had a stroke 2 years ago. Now we are like the three muscateers. I kept buying gallons of water and can goods each time I went for groceries and if on-sale stacks of bottled water...finally Mama politely asked whats up with all the water. I finally came out and told her. I think it went well, the other day she was talking to a real estate lady. I asked why? She said , I was reading and we need a bug-out place...hehe true story! Well enough about me. |
Whiskey*Tango
User ID: 46364798 United States 05/20/2014 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you make up excuses and stuff to stall. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3895861 I am vaccine injured and disabled (anthrax) so I really stretched and stalled to,give my son as much time as possible. Is this legal in your country? My son does have what he needs for school here but I really was last possible minute and especially tried to make it past two for most stuff. Really put off the MMR as long as possible and could because he was in private school till 1st grade. Good luck I know this is hard. Exactly how I vaccinated my children. I limited the number of vaccines given at one time and I stretched the appointments out by rescheduling. All 3 of my children are fantastic. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58265769 New Zealand 05/20/2014 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so my 18 month old is overdue for his shots and I can't bring myself to book him in - despite the letters from my gp and government telling me I must do so. Quoting: Whoop-D-Do My doctor fobbed off both complaints/concern over my sons reaction to the vaccines (previous two lots) with no explanation or concern over his odd reaction. For a week after his shots he would randomly go into uncontrollable fits of pure rage (only way to describe) No temperature. Marks. Swelling. Just out of nowhe re and COMPLETLEY out of character would be unconsolably angry. Fists clenched. Teeth clenched. Screaming/growling . Hitting. Trying to head butt crib. It wasnt him. It was truly terrifying. It would last 15 minutes sometimes more. Now they want to reissue some of the shots on top of what is due now as they gave his first lot to early??? They rang yesyerday claming the government health dept has advised he needs more. I said I was not entirely comfortable with the vaccines in first place and need to think about how to proceed. My husband is over it and wants to tell them to stick it up their ass. I am lost. Food for thought please! Was just mocked at dentist for wanting to remove nasty fillings- and they refused to d o it. So confidence little low don't do it! and you need a biological dentist to remove your fillings in your teeth or look for a "Mercury free" dentist [link to www.gustoso.com.au] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 05/20/2014 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing that keeps me on the fence is this chart, the life expectancy of country's. Start your research from that. I would now. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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(OP) User ID: 16138496 Australia 05/20/2014 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant have the shots seperated.. they only give a cocktail in two needles. Even influenza in it! It is not law as such here but you are pretty much excluded from daycares and labeled a fruit cake. His shots so far; Birth Hep B & Vit K 2 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus 4 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus 6 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus b 12 months Haemophilus influenzae type b and Meningococcal C (Hib-MenC)Measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) I really appreciate the feedback. Am downloading book by Dr Mendelsohn. Alarm bells are ringing. Have witnessed what good influenza shot can do to elderly in nursing home. Questioned doctors at home and found they themselves never had them. ( high contact with vulnerable patients and numerous on dailt basis- I assumed they would be number one to be vacinated .. not to mention they washed their hands less than I can get my ten year old son to) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41443314 United States 05/20/2014 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this continues you may wish to have him evaluated [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Episodic dyscontrol syndrome (EDS) or intermittent explosive disorder (IED) is a clearly identified category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV). It affects children and adults. Children are often considered to have epilepsy or a mental health problem. The episodes comprise of recurrent attacks of uncontrollable rage, usually after minimal provocation, and may last up to an hour |
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(OP) User ID: 16138496 Australia 05/20/2014 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this continues you may wish to have him evaluated Quoting: zenobiaphobia [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Episodic dyscontrol syndrome (EDS) or intermittent explosive disorder (IED) is a clearly identified category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV). It affects children and adults. Children are often considered to have epilepsy or a mental health problem. The episodes comprise of recurrent attacks of uncontrollable rage, usually after minimal provocation, and may last up to an hour It only happens a week or so after vaccines. No particular time and no trigger. He has not done it since . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47214443 United States 05/20/2014 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant have the shots seperated.. they only give a cocktail in two needles. Quoting: Whoop-D-Do Even influenza in it! It is not law as such here but you are pretty much excluded from daycares and labeled a fruit cake. His shots so far; Birth Hep B & Vit K 2 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus 4 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus 6 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus b 12 months Haemophilus influenzae type b and Meningococcal C (Hib-MenC)Measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) I really appreciate the feedback. Am downloading book by Dr Mendelsohn. Alarm bells are ringing. Have witnessed what good influenza shot can do to elderly in nursing home. Questioned doctors at home and found they themselves never had them. ( high contact with vulnerable patients and numerous on dailt basis- I assumed they would be number one to be vacinated .. not to mention they washed their hands less than I can get my ten year old son to) Hey op Kudos for downloading the book by dr mendelson. It changed my life and benefitted my kids greatly. He's the real deal. I tried to contact him to thank him personally buthe had passed away. Chatted with his wife a bit and she told me of his life's work and how many kids he had helped by basically teaching parents to stay away from the shots and doctors who promoted them. Don't expect any support but it is your kids lives at stake. Do the right thing for them |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57065827 Indonesia 05/20/2014 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't do it. Most states allow for Religious (don't specify religion) Philosophical (think they are harmful) and Medical Exemptions(a doctor who cares more about children than making money or being attacked by the establishment and will state that vaccines pose a health risk to child.) Vaccines do not work and cause illness and weaken the immune system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41443314 United States 05/20/2014 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It only happens a week or so after vaccines. No particular time and no trigger. He has not done it since . Quoting: Whoop-D-Do That's good! Do be aware he ever has one that persists: [link to www.clinicalkey.com (secure)] •Status epilepticus (SE) is a life-threatening neurologic disorder defined as 5 minutes or more of a continuous seizure, or two or more discrete seizures without complete recovery of consciousness between seizures •SE is more common in children, particularly as febrile illness during the first year of life. It is the most common neurologic emergency in pediatric practice |
deepend User ID: 57826978 United States 05/20/2014 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lady here ordered vaccinations from [link to rawnaturalhealth.com] Vaccinations The normal rate of autism is about 1/4000. The rate of autism in industrialized nations (ex: Russa, China, Japan and South Korea) without using synthetic heavy metals used as a preservative in vaccines is about 1/4000. The current rate of autism in the US, Canada and many other industrialized nations which use synthetic heavy metals to preserve vaccines is approximately 1/100. Scotland, England, Finland and Norway had a rate of autism of approximately 1/100 when heavy metals were used. After they banned the use of heavy metals in vaccines, the rate dropped to approximately 1/4000. Feel free to do a simple google search to verify nations and rates. If it were not for the want to mass produce vaccines once every few years, as opposed to constant manufacturing, evidence shows there would be no spike in autism rates. When you speak to your pediatrician (or obstetrician if you have the conversation before the birth of a child), you can make arrangements to have your child vaccinated with imported vaccines... such as Norway... the doctors praised parents for having done the research. After the above points were made, not one question was ever asked as to why we would want for this... and... the insurance company still covered the costs less international shipping charges. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58258683 Canada 05/20/2014 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its 3 hours long, but its a seriously researched talk, you will be very happy that you took the time to watch it! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
chincha
User ID: 29579270 Canada 05/20/2014 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so my 18 month old is overdue for his shots and I can't bring myself to book him in - despite the letters from my gp and government telling me I must do so. Quoting: Whoop-D-Do My doctor fobbed off both complaints/concern over my sons reaction to the vaccines (previous two lots) with no explanation or concern over his odd reaction. For a week after his shots he would randomly go into uncontrollable fits of pure rage (only way to describe) No temperature. Marks. Swelling. Just out of nowhe re and COMPLETLEY out of character would be unconsolably angry. Fists clenched. Teeth clenched. Screaming/growling . Hitting. Trying to head butt crib. It wasnt him. It was truly terrifying. It would last 15 minutes sometimes more. Now they want to reissue some of the shots on top of what is due now as they gave his first lot to early??? They rang yesyerday claming the government health dept has advised he needs more. I said I was not entirely comfortable with the vaccines in first place and need to think about how to proceed. Food for thought please! Was just mocked at dentist for wanting to remove nasty fillings- and they refused to d o it. So confidence little low "My husband is over it and wants to tell them to stick it up their ass. I am lost." If you as THE mother are lost to know what is THE best for your child, I hope your husband will step in (not only talk), and as an intelligent human being, he will protect his child from the current matrix practises and from the lost mother. Wish you best of luck, to find THE strength in yourself to overcome your ignorance and "maybe" just to search few threads on GLP about this topic. I do believe in you, I believe you will protect your child's best interest over the big pharmacies profit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58268654 United Kingdom 05/20/2014 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant have the shots seperated.. they only give a cocktail in two needles. Quoting: Whoop-D-Do Even influenza in it! It is not law as such here but you are pretty much excluded from daycares and labeled a fruit cake. His shots so far; Birth Hep B & Vit K 2 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus 4 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus 6 months Hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type b, inactivated poliomyelitis (polio) (hepB-DTPa-Hib-IPV)Pneumococcal conjugate (13vPCV)Rotavirus b 12 months Haemophilus influenzae type b and Meningococcal C (Hib-MenC)Measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) I really appreciate the feedback. Am downloading book by Dr Mendelsohn. Alarm bells are ringing. Have witnessed what good influenza shot can do to elderly in nursing home. Questioned doctors at home and found they themselves never had them. ( high contact with vulnerable patients and numerous on dailt basis- I assumed they would be number one to be vacinated .. not to mention they washed their hands less than I can get my ten year old son to) OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOUR CHILD WITH ALL THOSE VACCINES! |
mopar28m
User ID: 48925572 United States 05/20/2014 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so my 18 month old is overdue for his shots and I can't bring myself to book him in - despite the letters from my gp and government telling me I must do so. Quoting: Whoop-D-Do My doctor fobbed off both complaints/concern over my sons reaction to the vaccines (previous two lots) with no explanation or concern over his odd reaction. For a week after his shots he would randomly go into uncontrollable fits of pure rage (only way to describe) No temperature. Marks. Swelling. Just out of nowhe re and COMPLETLEY out of character would be unconsolably angry. Fists clenched. Teeth clenched. Screaming/growling . Hitting. Trying to head butt crib. It wasnt him. It was truly terrifying. It would last 15 minutes sometimes more. Now they want to reissue some of the shots on top of what is due now as they gave his first lot to early??? They rang yesyerday claming the government health dept has advised he needs more. I said I was not entirely comfortable with the vaccines in first place and need to think about how to proceed. My husband is over it and wants to tell them to stick it up their ass. I am lost. Food for thought please! Was just mocked at dentist for wanting to remove nasty fillings- and they refused to d o it. So confidence little low You do NOT have to get him any vaccinations....period. He had a nasty reaction to the ones he did get. Just tell them your son is NOT getting any vaccinations & will be claiming an exemption. [link to vaclib.org] will have your paperwork for your exemptions. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
UseLessRepEATER
User ID: 54833484 United States 05/20/2014 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
chincha
User ID: 29579270 Canada 05/20/2014 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so my 18 month old is overdue for his shots and I can't bring myself to book him in - despite the letters from my gp and government telling me I must do so. Quoting: Whoop-D-Do My doctor fobbed off both complaints/concern over my sons reaction to the vaccines (previous two lots) with no explanation or concern over his odd reaction. For a week after his shots he would randomly go into uncontrollable fits of pure rage (only way to describe) No temperature. Marks. Swelling. Just out of nowhe re and COMPLETLEY out of character would be unconsolably angry. Fists clenched. Teeth clenched. Screaming/growling . Hitting. Trying to head butt crib. It wasnt him. It was truly terrifying. It would last 15 minutes sometimes more. Now they want to reissue some of the shots on top of what is due now as they gave his first lot to early??? They rang yesyerday claming the government health dept has advised he needs more. I said I was not entirely comfortable with the vaccines in first place and need to think about how to proceed. My husband is over it and wants to tell them to stick it up their ass. I am lost. Food for thought please! Was just mocked at dentist for wanting to remove nasty fillings- and they refused to d o it. So confidence little low I want to thank you so much for all your work to spread the awareness. You do NOT have to get him any vaccinations....period. He had a nasty reaction to the ones he did get. Just tell them your son is NOT getting any vaccinations & will be claiming an exemption. [link to vaclib.org] will have your paperwork for your exemptions. |
chincha
User ID: 29579270 Canada 05/20/2014 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so my 18 month old is overdue for his shots and I can't bring myself to book him in - despite the letters from my gp and government telling me I must do so. Quoting: Whoop-D-Do My doctor fobbed off both complaints/concern over my sons reaction to the vaccines (previous two lots) with no explanation or concern over his odd reaction. For a week after his shots he would randomly go into uncontrollable fits of pure rage (only way to describe) No temperature. Marks. Swelling. Just out of nowhe re and COMPLETLEY out of character would be unconsolably angry. Fists clenched. Teeth clenched. Screaming/growling . Hitting. Trying to head butt crib. It wasnt him. It was truly terrifying. It would last 15 minutes sometimes more. Now they want to reissue some of the shots on top of what is due now as they gave his first lot to early??? They rang yesyerday claming the government health dept has advised he needs more. I said I was not entirely comfortable with the vaccines in first place and need to think about how to proceed. My husband is over it and wants to tell them to stick it up their ass. I am lost. Food for thought please! Was just mocked at dentist for wanting to remove nasty fillings- and they refused to d o it. So confidence little low You do NOT have to get him any vaccinations....period. He had a nasty reaction to the ones he did get. Just tell them your son is NOT getting any vaccinations & will be claiming an exemption. [link to vaclib.org] will have your paperwork for your exemptions. I want to thank you so much for all your work to spread the awareness. Sorry, my post gat mixed in with the quote. |
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User ID: 43871895 United States 05/20/2014 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tell the doc you've recently adopted new religious beliefs (pick something) and you don't believe in medicine anymore, some kind of faith healing religion would be a good choice. some1 mentioned this before here, religion is a valid exemption from these harmful vaccines This is all a joke!! |