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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57552511 United States 05/05/2014 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | long story short...I just got served with a Revivor of Judgment. This judgement is not on my credit records. The plaintiff is LEGAL COLLECTION COMPANY. I can't find a real company by that name. I looked up the attorneys and they have pages of BAD reviews calling them scumbags, bottom feeders, lowest of the low etc. Anybody have any experience or advice? Quoting: Psi Guy If all else fails and you can't find any information or contact numbers, you can always show up for court. Most likely, LCC won't show up and the case will be dismissed. A lot of these low life "firms" are after default judgments so they can garnish your wages. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57697489 U.S. Virgin Islands 05/05/2014 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you cannot afford an attorney, check out your local legal aid office. Not showing up is pretty much allowing the court to rule against you by default. Even if they can't represent you, they might be able to give good legal advice. Before going though, google search as much as you can about the company, lawyers, revivor judgement, and other details. Other people may have gone through something similar and may have good points to bring up with your lawyers. Walk with whatever you find by the way. Most (if not all) collection agencies have awful reputations. And not ONLY because they are collecting debts. They can be very nasty from what I remember reading. That firm, any possibility it's the lawyers listed collecting under a fictitious business? Perhaps because they were hired by another firm or the business to collect on their behalf? Good luck. |
Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it SAYS the original judgment was for around 10k. This supposed judgement is NOT on my credit report. I know nothing about it. NOW they are trying to revive this supposed judgement for around 20k. WTF "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks guys...and a for any more help. "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34251940 United States 05/05/2014 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THese guys? [link to www.legalcollection.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 658762 United States 05/05/2014 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | long story short...I just got served with a Revivor of Judgment. This judgement is not on my credit records. The plaintiff is LEGAL COLLECTION COMPANY. I can't find a real company by that name. I looked up the attorneys and they have pages of BAD reviews calling them scumbags, bottom feeders, lowest of the low etc. Anybody have any experience or advice? Quoting: Psi Guy you need to get a copy of the original judgement. you were probably sued and let the plaintiff win by default. now they want to revive the old judgement so the statute of limitations doesn't expire on it. get a copy of the original judgement and go get an attorney. attorneys aren't as expensive as you think. OR....you could do nothing and if you have a job your wages will get garnished or bank accounts seized or property taken. |
zumax
User ID: 57282676 United States 05/05/2014 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First of all, this appears to be a collection agency which you did not contract with. For a contract to be valid, there must be 2 parties, consideration from both parties and a signature from both parties. Here's what to do. Send them a letter indicating that you would be pleased to comply with their requests if they can 1. provide a signed contract with their signature AND your signature on it. 2. validate the debt (very important because they can't do it) Send this in a registered letter. You will never hear from them again because in reality, they bought the debt from the institution you originally contracted with, and now they're trying to squeeze the money from you. This is akin to extortion as they have no contract with you. Don't respond to their correspondence because then you will give them the authority to come after you. So by sending the letter, you remain in honor and you put the ball in their court and they can't comply with your requests, so they will be in dishonor and it will all go away. Hope this helps. |
Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THese guys? [link to www.legalcollection.com] Quoting: AxE nope...that's just their domain name "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm...I like this but it appears they already have a judgement they are trying to revive. What's weird is this judgement does not appear on my credit report. I know nothing about it. also the plaintiff: LEGAL COLLECTION CO doesn't exist as far as I can tell. Last Edited by Psi Guy on 05/05/2014 02:06 PM "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just bumpin ... any info appreciated "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
ssle
User ID: 44553387 United States 05/05/2014 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you get a copy of the original debt with your signature when you were served? If not, you need to show up in court and request a copy of that. If they don't show up, chances are the judge will dismiss the case for want of prosecution. If they do show up, the judge will order they provide proof of the debt. I would print out a copy of your credit report from all 3 agencies showing it isn't on there. That will put the ball in their court to demonstrate that it does exist. If it's not on your report anywhere, then you haven't been alerted, which means they haven't done their due diligence before suing you. What they're hoping for is that you will want to avoid court costs and headache and just agree to settle. Last Edited by ssle on 05/05/2014 02:20 PM Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
zumax
User ID: 57282676 United States 05/05/2014 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hope this helps. Quoting: zumax hmmm...I like this but it appears they already have a judgement they are trying to revive. What's weird is this judgement does not appear on my credit report. I know nothing about it. also the plaintiff: LEGAL COLLECTION CO doesn't exist as far as I can tell. How old is the original action? There is a statute of limitations on debt. If it's not on your credit report, it could be past that date. Revivor of Judgment ???? lol Looks like they're bringing it back from the dead. These bastards will try anything to scare you into compliance. Like I said before, do NOT correspond with them other than that registered letter. If you do, you will revive the debt by acknowledging them and contracting with them. You do not want to do that. Peace to you. |
Lord Marshal of Necromongers
User ID: 10873474 United States 05/05/2014 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | File a countersuit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget the red or the blue pill. Take the Gold Elixir. “How can there be a God, when there is nothing but God.” - Laozi “Naturalness is called the Way. The Way has no name or form; it is just essence, just the primal spirit.” - The Secret of the Golden Flower. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57714289 United States 05/05/2014 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | long story short...I just got served with a Revivor of Judgment. This judgement is not on my credit records. The plaintiff is LEGAL COLLECTION COMPANY. I can't find a real company by that name. I looked up the attorneys and they have pages of BAD reviews calling them scumbags, bottom feeders, lowest of the low etc. Anybody have any experience or advice? Quoting: Psi Guy Wree u legally served/ Is there a summons attached? Does it have a case number? Does it have a valid judges sugnature? have u called the court to verify "Proof of Service" has been filed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 658762 United States 05/05/2014 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hope this helps. Quoting: zumax Quoting: zumax hmmm...I like this but it appears they already have a judgement they are trying to revive. What's weird is this judgement does not appear on my credit report. I know nothing about it. also the plaintiff: LEGAL COLLECTION CO doesn't exist as far as I can tell. How old is the original action? There is a statute of limitations on debt. If it's not on your credit report, it could be past that date. Revivor of Judgment ???? lol Looks like they're bringing it back from the dead. These bastards will try anything to scare you into compliance. Like I said before, do NOT correspond with them other than that registered letter. If you do, you will revive the debt by acknowledging them and contracting with them. You do not want to do that. Peace to you. wait. i thought the only way to revive an old debt was to pay on it? you mean by simply corresponding with the old creditor a debt older that 7 years can be revived? |
zumax
User ID: 57282676 United States 05/05/2014 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whynow, I think I may have not completed my thought properly. More than just corresponding with these people, you must never sign anything from them because it will revive the judgment and give them standing to come after you for the debt.....unless you demand that they provide a copy of the original contract and demand that they validate the debt, which they can never do. Sorry for the confusion. |
S.O.S.
User ID: 56695499 United States 05/05/2014 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it SAYS the original judgment was for around 10k. This supposed judgement is NOT on my credit report. I know nothing about it. NOW they are trying to revive this supposed judgement for around 20k. WTF After 4 years without a payment they have to pound sand (at least in CA). Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks guys...need all the advice I can get. trying to get a hold of a lawyer right now. "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
S.O.S.
User ID: 57008214 United States 05/05/2014 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks guys...need all the advice I can get. trying to get a hold of a lawyer right now. Quoting: Psi Guy I have a Legal Shield membership (formerly Pre-Paid Legal) and you can speak to an attorney for $26 bucks a month.. ask as many questions as you like and have them review documents/letters to 3rd parties for you. Even send letters out on your behalf. You may want to look into it... find a rep in your state and sign up for a month... ask your questions, have them review the docs and then cancel if you don't want to continue. But I've had it for over 14 years now... (over 360 hours of attorney hours for court cases if I'm sued and a ton of other stuff)... check it out. www.LegalShield.com Last Edited by S.O.S. on 05/05/2014 05:08 PM Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
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Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a civil litigation attorney attorney. I am having phone issues and am unable to post easily. I am at work now but will check this thread when I get home. I will give you some practical advice. Be back in a bit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46111899 yay "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55296602 United States 05/05/2014 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First of all, this appears to be a collection agency which you did not contract with. Quoting: zumax For a contract to be valid, there must be 2 parties, consideration from both parties and a signature from both parties. Here's what to do. Send them a letter indicating that you would be pleased to comply with their requests if they can 1. provide a signed contract with their signature AND your signature on it. 2. validate the debt (very important because they can't do it) Send this in a registered letter. You will never hear from them again because in reality, they bought the debt from the institution you originally contracted with, and now they're trying to squeeze the money from you. This is akin to extortion as they have no contract with you. Don't respond to their correspondence because then you will give them the authority to come after you. So by sending the letter, you remain in honor and you put the ball in their court and they can't comply with your requests, so they will be in dishonor and it will all go away. Hope this helps. I believe this is very sound advice. They must produce signature within 30 days. There are organizations in your city or county to help. Do not ignore. You must defend yourself. |
Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/05/2014 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57480298 United States 05/05/2014 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | long story short...I just got served with a Revivor of Judgment. This judgement is not on my credit records. The plaintiff is LEGAL COLLECTION COMPANY. I can't find a real company by that name. I looked up the attorneys and they have pages of BAD reviews calling them scumbags, bottom feeders, lowest of the low etc. Anybody have any experience or advice? Quoting: Psi Guy the money they were or are trying to collect does it say from what... was it a credit card or something? if you think its a scam maybe go to your local bank ask them what to do? if you think its a scam I would call them but find a way to report them |
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Psi Guy
(OP) User ID: 26915826 United States 05/06/2014 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a civil litigation attorney attorney. I am having phone issues and am unable to post easily. I am at work now but will check this thread when I get home. I will give you some practical advice. Be back in a bit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46111899 "If you keep running into brick walls you might be going in the wrong direction...duh!" Psi Guy "Don't chase the dream, just live it instead." Psi Guy "If one note is off, eventually it will destroy the whole symphony." Walter-Prometheus" The road to freedom lies not through mysteries or occult performances, but through the intelligent use of natural forces and laws. 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' Nikola Tesla "The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger |