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U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday that the U.S. and its allies had agreed on the tenets of an deal on Iran's nuclear program, only for the Iranians to say they were unable to accept the proposal.

Kerry spoke in Abu Dhabi, where he was holding a news conference with United Arab Emirates Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan.

"[We were] unified on Saturday when we presented a proposal to the Iranians," Kerry said, "and the French signed off on it, we signed off on it, and everybody agreed it was a fair proposal. There was unity, but Iran couldn't take it at that particular moment, they weren't able to accept that particular thing.''

However, Iran did agree on Monday to allow expanded U.N. monitoring at the country's nuclear sites, including at a new reactor, state TV reported, in a deal that could boost the wider negotiations over Tehran's atomic program. The so-called "roadmap" described by Iran's state TV would give the inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency access to a key uranium mine and the site of a planned heavy water reactor, which uses a different type of coolant than regular water and produces a greater amount of plutonium byproduct than conventional reactors.

Broader negotiations between the U.S., Iran, the other four permanent members of the United Nations Security Council (Great Britain, France, Russia, and China), and Germany ended Saturday in Geneva without a deal being struck, though negotiations are scheduled to resume November 20.

In the aftermath of the negotiations, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius was heard telling a French radio station that his country would not be party to a "con game." That statement led to reports that Fabius had torpedoed the deal by raising concerns that it had been too lenient toward Iran. Kerry's statement Monday constitutes the first denial that there were divisions among the negotiating allies in Geneva.

Kerry also said that that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's rejection of a deal to limit Iran's nuclear ambitions was premature.

"The time to oppose it is when you see what it is, not to oppose the effort to find out what is possible," Kerry said.

Netanyahu has repeatedly criticized what he considers readiness by the six powers involved in the talks to be too generous to Iran and has aggressively campaigned against an agreement.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

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Israel, U.S. dispute Iran deal

JERUSALEM — The United States vowed Monday it would not cave to Iran in negotiations over the Islamic republic's nuclear program despite charges from Israel and France that negotiators were proposing to let Iran maintain its nuclear capacity.

U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro vowed Monday that President Obama would not allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and that the United States would not sign on to a "bad deal" at negotiations with Iran tipped to restart later this month.

Speaking at the Jewish Federations of North American General Assembly in Jerusalem, Shapiro drove home his point by repeating it in Hebrew, according to the Jerusalem Post.

He said that the U.S. would not "squander" the leverage of Western economic sanctions on Iran, which wants those sanctions removed. Shapiro said that no deal on Iran's atomic program would be better than a bad deal.

His comments came as the U.N.'s nuclear chief reached a deal Monday to allow expanded monitoring of Iran's nuclear sites, including at a planned reactor, but not an agreement to dismantle its ability to make material for nuclear weapons as the U.S. Security Council has demanded.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Monday again defended U.S. efforts with Iran, saying that the major powers were unified on an Iran nuclear deal during weekend talks in Geneva but the Iranians did not accept it.

Speaking to reporters in Abu Dhabi, Kerry lashed out at opponents to the proposal. Among them are Israeli Prime MInister Benjamin Netanyahu, who told Kerry on Friday that the proposed deal gave Iran all it wants on sanctions and did nothing to end Iran's ability to make a nuclear bomb.

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Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran

Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement.

With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions.

All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”.

Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.”

In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran

Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement.

With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions.

All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”.

Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.”

In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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What a ginormous clusterfuck.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Re: BREAKING: Iran rejects deal proposed by US and its allies.
Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran

Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement.

With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions.

All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”.

Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.”

In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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I expect we will give them something else and then they will sign. All is good
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kery will see what it is soon when iran tests a nuke !
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Re: BREAKING: Iran rejects deal proposed by US and its allies.
None of those news sources are mentioning legal energy-and medical related use of nuclear products which is in keeping with peaceable use as written by the IAEA.
Every country in the middle east has this right including Iran..who by the way invite inspections of all development sites, anytime, anywhere. And yet this full cooperation is ignored as yammering goes on. You can't do anything with accusers who ignore factual evidence and cooperation which refutes evidence however clearly and properly presented.

Netanyahu is a raging lunatic whose country by the way has never once permitted a single inspection by the IAEA for their 200-400 nuclear WEAPONS.

Always the loudest most irrational moran who gets the press.

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What a ginormous clusterfuck.
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Re: BREAKING: Iran rejects deal proposed by US and its allies.
Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran

Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement.

With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions.

All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”.

Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.”

In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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I expect we will give them something else and then they will sign. All is good
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Disagree. Iran is playing the same game that NK plays.
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What a ginormous clusterfuck.
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it'll only get worse before it gets better
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Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first
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What a ginormous clusterfuck.
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It is intentional. The mid-east problem is a globalist creation. Ignore it. It is kabuki theater, nothing more.
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What a ginormous clusterfuck.
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it'll only get worse before it gets better
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Agreed
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Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first
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That may happen sooner than later.
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None of those news sources are mentioning legal energy-and medical related use of nuclear products which is in keeping with peaceable use as written by the IAEA.
Every country in the middle east has this right including Iran..who by the way invite inspections of all development sites, anytime, anywhere. And yet this full cooperation is ignored as yammering goes on. You can't do anything with accusers who ignore factual evidence and cooperation which refutes evidence however clearly and properly presented.

Netanyahu is a raging lunatic whose country by the way has never once permitted a single inspection by the IAEA for their 200-400 nuclear WEAPONS.

Always the loudest most irrational moran who gets the press.
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A week ago, Israeli intelligence leaked stories to the media that Pakistan was to supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons...

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I think the US needs as man allies in the middle east has it can get.
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None of those news sources are mentioning legal energy-and medical related use of nuclear products which is in keeping with peaceable use as written by the IAEA.
Every country in the middle east has this right including Iran..who by the way invite inspections of all development sites, anytime, anywhere. And yet this full cooperation is ignored as yammering goes on. You can't do anything with accusers who ignore factual evidence and cooperation which refutes evidence however clearly and properly presented.

Netanyahu is a raging lunatic whose country by the way has never once permitted a single inspection by the IAEA for their 200-400 nuclear WEAPONS.

Always the loudest most irrational moran who gets the press.
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A week ago, Israeli intelligence leaked stories to the media that Pakistan was to supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons...

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wtf
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Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first
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That may happen sooner than later.
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honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago.
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Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first
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That may happen sooner than later.
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honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago.
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Howaboutthis
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Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first
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That may happen sooner than later.
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honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago.
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Howaboutthis
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dont' take it as me wanting war, I always worry for the innocents on both ends. But a rational man with the horrible responsibility that Netanyahu has...would've, should've pulled the trigger long ago, the Iraninan nuclear issue like the North Korean one...should've never been allowed to be dragged out as far as they have been. It's been an abject failure in diplomacy of the first order.
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Tactics are at play, seeing if Iran get a better deal.
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What a ginormous clusterfuck.
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Well if you strip away the whole notion this is P5+1, ahem why is Germany there you'll get to see who is actually running the negotiations, and it is the EU.

If you look at the actual signage used in the meetings they are billed as the E3+3 or EU3+3.. i.e the E3 are Britain, France and Germany and the +3 are Russia, China and the USA..


[link to www.youtube.com]

The video above is only being used to demonstrate these negotiations are organised and run by the EU.
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Good for Iran.
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That may happen sooner than later.
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honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago.
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Howaboutthis
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dont' take it as me wanting war, I always worry for the innocents on both ends. But a rational man with the horrible responsibility that Netanyahu has...would've, should've pulled the trigger long ago, the Iraninan nuclear issue like the North Korean one...should've never been allowed to be dragged out as far as they have been. It's been an abject failure in diplomacy of the first order.
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Agreed!! dasbier
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isnt kerry usualy full of shit though?
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isnt kerry usualy full of shit though?
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Yep
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What are you, an Iranian shitstain import living on the dole in Sydney?
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