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What if Satan was really the good guy?

 
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I do imagine sort of a cliche movie scene when I think about God & Satan. Like, shoot him, he's the bad guy! No, shoot him, he's Satan! No, he's Satan, I'm Lucifer! It's all a lot more complex than we're normally told and it becomes sort of a he-said he-said thing.

I think one common idea is that Satan and Lucifer are not the same. Satan (I guess) would be the really actually bad guy, and Lucifer would be a good guy. I suppose it would be Satan masquerading as Yahweh, then. "By their fruits you shall know them" and all that...

One thing I think is interesting...

You know how we have this idea of God whispering in one ear to do the right thing, and Satan whispering in the other ear to do the wrong thing?

Consider the story of Abraham. God tells him to kill his son, because that would be pleasing to God. Okay... So Abraham decides he will. And it's beyond our ability to understand how this is right and God is still good, but let's just go along with it. So, God is telling Abraham to kill his son, because it's the good thing to do. If that's what God is telling him to do, what would Satan be telling him to do? "Don't kill your son!" OH the evil!
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That Abraham and Isaac story always bothered me, since I was a small child. The christian teachers at Sunday school would try and explain it to me and justify god's and Abraham's actions.

I just thought the whole thing was fucked up.
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and Yahweeh, the god of Abraham, instituted the burnt offerings and daily sacrifice of thousand of innocent animals slaughtered in the holy temple for the appeasement of god and for the atonement of sins before this dictatorial god.
innocent animals cruelly slaughtered for no reason except to appease god.

and what about the sadistic story of Job???
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Psalm 50:11 I know every bird in the mountains, and the creatures of the field are mine. If I were hungry I would not tell you, for the world is mine, and all that is in it. Do I eat the flesh of bulls or drink the blood of goats?


...when I brought your forefathers out of Egypt and spoke to them, I did not just give them commands about burnt offerings and sacrifices, 23but I gave them this command: Obey me, and I will be your God and you will be my people. Walk in all the ways I command you, that it may go well with you. 24But they did not listen or pay attention; instead, they followed the stubborn inclinations of their evil hearts. They went backward and not forward. Jeremiah 7
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If he was the good guy and, as we know secret societys, govt, illuminati worship him, why are they such assholes to humanity?
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06/20/2013 07:16 AM
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If he was the good guy and, as we know secret societys, govt, illuminati worship him, why are they such assholes to humanity?
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don't confuse good is being a slave to serve you...
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I do imagine sort of a cliche movie scene when I think about God & Satan. Like, shoot him, he's the bad guy! No, shoot him, he's Satan! No, he's Satan, I'm Lucifer! It's all a lot more complex than we're normally told and it becomes sort of a he-said he-said thing.

I think one common idea is that Satan and Lucifer are not the same. Satan (I guess) would be the really actually bad guy, and Lucifer would be a good guy. I suppose it would be Satan masquerading as Yahweh, then. "By their fruits you shall know them" and all that...

One thing I think is interesting...

You know how we have this idea of God whispering in one ear to do the right thing, and Satan whispering in the other ear to do the wrong thing?

Consider the story of Abraham. God tells him to kill his son, because that would be pleasing to God. Okay... So Abraham decides he will. And it's beyond our ability to understand how this is right and God is still good, but let's just go along with it. So, God is telling Abraham to kill his son, because it's the good thing to do. If that's what God is telling him to do, what would Satan be telling him to do? "Don't kill your son!" OH the evil!
 Quoting: thoughtcrime


That Abraham and Isaac story always bothered me, since I was a small child. The christian teachers at Sunday school would try and explain it to me and justify god's and Abraham's actions.

I just thought the whole thing was fucked up.
 Quoting: HI.Lander


and Yahweeh, the god of Abraham, instituted the burnt offerings and daily sacrifice of thousand of innocent animals slaughtered in the holy temple for the appeasement of god and for the atonement of sins before this dictatorial god.
innocent animals cruelly slaughtered for no reason except to appease god.

and what about the sadistic story of Job???
 Quoting: MBECCU 22121331


yeah, Yahweh to me is the "Dark god"..and the God of Christ is the the God of Light. unfortunately and/or intentionally they meshed together that Christ and Abrahms god was the same..decieving many.
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06/20/2013 07:39 AM
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What Satan was really the good guy in the fight for good vs evil?

Wouldnt the winner declare themselves "good" and portray the other as evil, as every evil historical figure has?
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Who said Satan won? "It ain't over till it's over" Lenny Kravitch.
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What Satan was really the good guy in the fight for good vs evil?

Wouldnt the winner declare themselves "good" and portray the other as evil, as every evil historical figure has?
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Nice

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BINGO!!!
But its all good cuz those who don't want to know the truth will NEVER figure it out.
And thing is....it don't take alot of inquiry to figure out so this is why its allowed to remain a great deception.....so for those who could care less (christians and all the rest of believers) not until their lives get soooooo bad with suffering will they ever look to find out the truth.
The very one they claim to follow told them to seek the truth and they still go throw $$$ at the slave drivers who preach to them on SUNday.
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