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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7570540 United States 06/13/2013 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL! We can't even get the parents in for school meetings I can just see a doctor requiring family counseling. A lot of kids I see who are ADHD today (to the point where it is affecting their academic performance and that of others around them) are drug babies. Lots and lots of drug babies in school right now. I also think that some of the kids who are diagnosed or not diagnosed but still have symptoms of ADHD are this way because of 1) the crap they eat. All the HFCS and sugars, dyes, preservatives, etc. They are nutritionally deprived and that is causing them to have neurological problems. 2) Parents in the US no longer know how to parent their children. They are afraid of saying no to their children because it will hurt their ego and they pretty much let the kids rule the roost. These kids get pretty much whatever they want and throw fits if they don't get it. They don't play games/sports unless everyone gets a trophy and don't know how to win or lose properly. Well, you get a kid like that in school and he can't sit still, he smarts back to the teacher, he pouts if he doesn't get his way, he tells fibs to his parents (who always believe him), he is often lazy because he's never had to work for anything in his life (but you can bet your bottom dollar the parent will expect the teacher to hand out an A because their darling is soooooo smart). Parents, you have got to stop being wing man for your kids and let them learn to grow up and take care of themselves - you are stunting them emotionally. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41632481 United Kingdom 06/13/2013 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no such thing as adhd hdd and all this bullshit call it what it is for fuck's sake which is mainly poisoning the human body with excito toxins and neuro toxins ie artificial sweetner's and corn syrup poisoning remove this from children's diets and you see an improvement in there behaviour within 28 days but watch me get slammed for the truth but heck no you would rather ram pills down your kiddies throats well that is how it comes across |
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User ID: 41599557 Germany 06/13/2013 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | totally agree with you on that...it's all JUST experience...but why not be the "STAR" of your own play (life) and go for it... Quoting: Pearl 22783827 an old friend once said to me..."if your were going to die tomorrow, What would you be afraid of today?" that spoke volumes! no such thing as adhd hdd and all this bullshit call it what it is for fuck's sake which is mainly poisoning the human body with excito toxins and neuro toxins ie artificial sweetner's and corn syrup poisoning remove this from children's diets and you see an improvement in there behaviour within 28 days but watch me get slammed for the truth but heck no you would rather ram pills down your kiddies throats well that is how it comes across Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41632481 Absolutely correct. One other cause is food allergies. I saw once on tv a girl who was allergic to chicken protein. They let her write a few lines on a sheet of paper and then had her eat a bowl of chicken soup. Every ten minutes they let her write down the same text. Her handwriting detetiorated to such a degree that after 30 minutes you had great difficulties deciphering her writing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32938997 United States 06/13/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL! We can't even get the parents in for school meetings I can just see a doctor requiring family counseling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 A lot of kids I see who are ADHD today (to the point where it is affecting their academic performance and that of others around them) are drug babies. Lots and lots of drug babies in school right now. I also think that some of the kids who are diagnosed or not diagnosed but still have symptoms of ADHD are this way because of 1) the crap they eat. All the HFCS and sugars, dyes, preservatives, etc. They are nutritionally deprived and that is causing them to have neurological problems. 2) Parents in the US no longer know how to parent their children. They are afraid of saying no to their children because it will hurt their ego and they pretty much let the kids rule the roost. These kids get pretty much whatever they want and throw fits if they don't get it. They don't play games/sports unless everyone gets a trophy and don't know how to win or lose properly. Well, you get a kid like that in school and he can't sit still, he smarts back to the teacher, he pouts if he doesn't get his way, he tells fibs to his parents (who always believe him), he is often lazy because he's never had to work for anything in his life (but you can bet your bottom dollar the parent will expect the teacher to hand out an A because their darling is soooooo smart). Parents, you have got to stop being wing man for your kids and let them learn to grow up and take care of themselves - you are stunting them emotionally. I agree with you to some extent, but the kids I know that are ADHA have parents that constantly yell at their kids. Every move they make! They have no patience and are a disfunctional family. I believe some parents make their children nervous and angry. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29976231 United States 06/13/2013 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD Quoting: Baconspiracist French children don't need medications to control their behavior. In the United States, at least 9% of school-aged children have been diagnosed with ADHD, and are taking pharmaceutical medications. In France, the percentage of kids diagnosed and medicated for ADHD is less than .5%. How come the epidemic of ADHD—which has become firmly established in the United States—has almost completely passed over children in France? Is ADHD a biological-neurological disorder? Surprisingly, the answer to this question depends on whether you live in France or in the United States. In the United States, child psychiatrists consider ADHD to be a biological disorder with biological causes. The preferred treatment is also biological--psycho stimulant medications such as Ritalin and Adderall. French child psychiatrists, on the other hand, view ADHD as a medical condition that has psycho-social and situational causes. Instead of treating children's focusing and behavioral problems with drugs, French doctors prefer to look for the underlying issue that is causing the child distress—not in the child's brain but in the child's social context. They then choose to treat the underlying social context problem with psychotherapy or family counseling. This is a very different way of seeing things from the American tendency to attribute all symptoms to a biological dysfunction such as a chemical imbalance in the child's brain. read more: [link to www.psychologytoday.com] . ... E X A C T L Y ! ! ! ... . ... that is what I saw as a teacher in the public school ... . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41640452 United States 06/13/2013 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe the French don't put their kids in daycare at 6 weeks and demand 2 year olds have accountable learning I grew up in the 60's when most kids stayed home with a parent or grandparent until first grade. Sure there were a couple of kids in my class who didn't always sit still and pay attention; of course there were 60 kids in my first grade class and one little old nun teaching us. When school was over we went outside and played for hours we didn't sit in front of a TV or video game. And we weren't eating fast food for lunch and dinner every day. Look at some of the decisions school districts make... taking away recess and gym in favor of teaching standardized tests. Changing the age for enrollment, busing kids for hours to school,demanding younger and younger children return "academic performance". Yes parents factor into this too. Mom & dad don't always have time to spend with their kids, kids in daycare can't be disciplined like at home or there is no discipline at home. I had a friend whose son was born in 1978; she and her husband both worked full time. She felt that she didn't get to spend enough time with her kid so she let him stay up until midnight every night. He was always exhausted. ADD / ADHD is an industry. Most of the kids would be cured with a healthy diet, a good night's sleep, a little discipline and a lot of fresh air. But there is no money in that solution. And since adderall is a great diet pill.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41630582 Portugal 06/13/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD Quoting: Baconspiracist French children don't need medications to control their behavior. In the United States, at least 9% of school-aged children have been diagnosed with ADHD, and are taking pharmaceutical medications. In France, the percentage of kids diagnosed and medicated for ADHD is less than .5%. How come the epidemic of ADHD—which has become firmly established in the United States—has almost completely passed over children in France? Is ADHD a biological-neurological disorder? Surprisingly, the answer to this question depends on whether you live in France or in the United States. In the United States, child psychiatrists consider ADHD to be a biological disorder with biological causes. The preferred treatment is also biological--psycho stimulant medications such as Ritalin and Adderall. French child psychiatrists, on the other hand, view ADHD as a medical condition that has psycho-social and situational causes. Instead of treating children's focusing and behavioral problems with drugs, French doctors prefer to look for the underlying issue that is causing the child distress—not in the child's brain but in the child's social context. They then choose to treat the underlying social context problem with psychotherapy or family counseling. This is a very different way of seeing things from the American tendency to attribute all symptoms to a biological dysfunction such as a chemical imbalance in the child's brain. read more: [link to www.psychologytoday.com] OF COURSE!!!!! Because all they care is sell drugs and make money, LOTS OF MONEY! ----> [link to en.wikipedia.org] <------ THAT IS A MONEY MAKER. |
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User ID: 21085501 United States 06/13/2013 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me say this... Aderall is a dangerous drug. It used to be good, helped me get shit done and be productive. Then they changed it, there is a few different amphetamines that make it. They have upped the ones that cause major paranoia, my thoughts while on it started to change. This was around the time I discovered this site and it was not a good combo. Started believing in morgellons and nibiru, I had a few times that could probably be described as psychotic episodes. My insane ex did not help things but I was fucking losing it. Now I am way more rational about things, aderall up and it's a very dangerous drug. Fuck Yea! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25225980 United States 06/13/2013 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL! We can't even get the parents in for school meetings I can just see a doctor requiring family counseling. A lot of kids I see who are ADHD today (to the point where it is affecting their academic performance and that of others around them) are drug babies. Lots and lots of drug babies in school right now. I also think that some of the kids who are diagnosed or not diagnosed but still have symptoms of ADHD are this way because of 1) the crap they eat. All the HFCS and sugars, dyes, preservatives, etc. They are nutritionally deprived and that is causing them to have neurological problems. 2) Parents in the US no longer know how to parent their children. They are afraid of saying no to their children because it will hurt their ego and they pretty much let the <snip> Glad you said "a lot" and not all. A majority may come from homes where parent's are druggies, but there's a large percentage where their cognitive skills just aren't developed fully yet, but later down the road they catch up with other's and excel. The problem with that, is they're made to feel inferior and the emotional damage done to these children in younger years is very hard to repair. The food additives is a biggie as far as I'm concerned, and if one is already having difficulty, they cause severe problems. With the GMO foods, I suspect there's going to be a huge change in children's behavior...and not for the good. Most likely adults as well. So glad that nightmare period of my family's life is over. I do not wish these problems on any child or family. |
Z-Man User ID: 1000901 United States 06/13/2013 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I cannot think of one of them on medication to keep them under control. What I beleive is that is what kids do and how they behave. All summer we played on the tracks, took chances, rode bikes for miles, did stupid stuff. We stole beer and liquor from our parents, got drunk. We did stuff like camping in the woods, had fires in-fact my friend burned a 2 acer field down, the fire dpt came and we ran. We had a lot of fun hunted with guns, fished heck we even got hurt and cut and no need to run home to mommy for a band aid. We had "dirt ball" fights and it really hut to git hit with one. THE PROBLEM IS: Parents today they are over proctective and kids are weak. If your kid is "bullied" teach them how to fight. moms little one is special and got his ass kicked today....... So what happens is she calls the other kids mom and the moms get into it. What will that kid do when he enters the real world and is chanllanged at work or on the freeway on the way home. He has no idea how to defend himself and he gets killed. The person he works with get the new and higher paying job because he does not know how to defend himself mentally and is calling mom for advice. The reason so many kids today have ADS is because parents are lazy and shield there kids from reality and the ulgy real world we live in today. What will your "special kid" do when TSHTF? Call mommy or deal with it. If the kid has no history or experience defending himself or "loosing" life is going to be very hard and that kid will be eaten up by the real world and the "takers" that are around each corner every day and everywhere. Take your kids and show them the door each day, it is summertime to learn about life and the positive and negative events that are out there each day. Let them get hurt, play rough, break an arm, get "posion ivy", let them spend the day in the park hanging out and meeting new people. Yes, they will meet some assholes and takers but that experience today will condition them for the real world as an adult. They do not need all the electronics which they will dump, they do not have ADS, they are not weak, they do not get bullied "LOL", yes there are assholes out there. Let them learn about life on lifes terms. If you do not you are hurting and distroying your kids future and how they will deal with unpredictable events in the years to come. Good Luck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7570540 United States 06/13/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL! We can't even get the parents in for school meetings I can just see a doctor requiring family counseling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 A lot of kids I see who are ADHD today (to the point where it is affecting their academic performance and that of others around them) are drug babies. Lots and lots of drug babies in school right now. I also think that some of the kids who are diagnosed or not diagnosed but still have symptoms of ADHD are this way because of 1) the crap they eat. All the HFCS and sugars, dyes, preservatives, etc. They are nutritionally deprived and that is causing them to have neurological problems. 2) Parents in the US no longer know how to parent their children. They are afraid of saying no to their children because it will hurt their ego and they pretty much let the kids rule the roost. These kids get pretty much whatever they want and throw fits if they don't get it. They don't play games/sports unless everyone gets a trophy and don't know how to win or lose properly. Well, you get a kid like that in school and he can't sit still, he smarts back to the teacher, he pouts if he doesn't get his way, he tells fibs to his parents (who always believe him), he is often lazy because he's never had to work for anything in his life (but you can bet your bottom dollar the parent will expect the teacher to hand out an A because their darling is soooooo smart). Parents, you have got to stop being wing man for your kids and let them learn to grow up and take care of themselves - you are stunting them emotionally. I agree with you to some extent, but the kids I know that are ADHA have parents that constantly yell at their kids. Every move they make! They have no patience and are a disfunctional family. I believe some parents make their children nervous and angry. Yes, but that's part of the same issue of bad parenting. I see this as well. These parents yell, but they don't require that the kids comply. They just yell, and yell, and nag and meanwhile the kids run wild doing just what they want while tuning out the parents. Sometimes they get a whooping for doing something bad but there is never any proactive parenting and supervision to make sure the kids aren't doing the thing to begin with (like playing with dad's power tools). I see this a lot with parents who are substance abusers. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19640566 United States 06/13/2013 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD Quoting: Baconspiracist French children don't need medications to control their behavior. In the United States, at least 9% of school-aged children have been diagnosed with ADHD, and are taking pharmaceutical medications. In France, the percentage of kids diagnosed and medicated for ADHD is less than .5%. How come the epidemic of ADHD—which has become firmly established in the United States—has almost completely passed over children in France? Is ADHD a biological-neurological disorder? Surprisingly, the answer to this question depends on whether you live in France or in the United States. In the United States, child psychiatrists consider ADHD to be a biological disorder with biological causes. The preferred treatment is also biological--psycho stimulant medications such as Ritalin and Adderall. French child psychiatrists, on the other hand, view ADHD as a medical condition that has psycho-social and situational causes. Instead of treating children's focusing and behavioral problems with drugs, French doctors prefer to look for the underlying issue that is causing the child distress—not in the child's brain but in the child's social context. They then choose to treat the underlying social context problem with psychotherapy or family counseling. This is a very different way of seeing things from the American tendency to attribute all symptoms to a biological dysfunction such as a chemical imbalance in the child's brain. read more: [link to www.psychologytoday.com] I agree. Also the Frogs just give their kids wine and hard booze :D Bonjour |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9222520 United States 06/13/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | French child psychiatrists, on the other hand, view ADHD as a medical condition that has psycho-social and situational causes. Instead of treating children's focusing and behavioral problems with drugs, French doctors prefer to look for the underlying issue that is causing the child distress—not in the child's brain but in the child's social context. Quoting: Baconspiracist read more: [link to www.psychologytoday.com] I have had this opinion for a long time. This is a good read, thank you OP. |
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