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Free community food garden removed by City of Toronto workers

 
Mordier L'eft
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Free community food garden removed by City of Toronto workers
Without any advanced notice and under orders from City of Toronto Parks Director Richard Ubbens, workers removed all live plants and food from the five month old People’s Peas Garden in Queen’s Park on Friday.

When Occupy Gardens began planting on May 1, the event was reported on by multiple media and took place under the watchful eye of police.

“So they knew it was here and left it undisturbed for almost five months,” said Jacob Kearey-Moreland, in an interview on Saturday in Queen’s Park north.

Kearey-Moreland said Occupy Gardens had erected a sign with their contact information.

“And the city workers removed the sign and told my friend who was here that they’re keeping the sign for legal purposes in case they wanted to press charges or something like that.”

But on Friday, the Globe and Mail reported that Ubbens said, “The city did not touch base with the organizers of the People's Peas Garden because it had no contact information for the group.”

The Globe and Mail also reported that “Toronto parks director Richard Ubbens said the garden was removed because it was planted illegally.”

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it starts, my fellow Canadians. We've heard the horror stories of american authorities preventing regular people from growing their own food, or collecting their own rain-water -- now it comes our way.
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09/30/2012 09:14 PM
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Another non-story. "Occupy Parks" should be all one needs to know. FYI Queens Park is the seat of the provincial government of Ontario.

Try planting a garden on the grounds of your state house and see how long it lasts.
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09/30/2012 09:49 PM
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Re: Free community food garden removed by City of Toronto workers
SLAVES DON'T FEED THEMSELVES
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09/30/2012 10:01 PM
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fuck our government. trashing perfectly fine food. when are the riots going to start? when will we put our foot down, collectively?
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As a gardener this makes me sad. They also didn't allow them to remove some rare heirloom plants. Then there's the food issue. God forbid someone set a good example and people work together.
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Another non-story. "Occupy Parks" should be all one needs to know. FYI Queens Park is the seat of the provincial government of Ontario.

Try planting a garden on the grounds of your state house and see how long it lasts.
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may be a non-story to you, but to the ones trying to prove their point it's a pretty important one.
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If you read you discover that this park was 'occupied' - meaning it was taken by people who didn't want to follow the law and they turned it into a 'farm' illegally.

The city got around to finally cleaning it up.

Had they been smart about it, the farmers, they would have petitioned city hall for a community garden in that park and most likely would have gotten it.

It was illegal - against city codes.

So it was removed. Yes, no doubt City Hall Officials waited until harvest to drive the point home. It happens when you piss people off.

Hopefully these farmers will rethink this 'occupy' and actually take the right steps to petition for part of this park to be a community vegetable garden instead of trying to make a 'protest statement'.

I know that the near by towns and cities in my area have readily allotted public land to community vegetable gardens when the community asks for it.

Most public officials on the town/city level are usually a lot more willing and able to do things for the people than at state and federal levels.
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If you read you discover that this park was 'occupied' - meaning it was taken by people who didn't want to follow the law and they turned it into a 'farm' illegally.

The city got around to finally cleaning it up.

Had they been smart about it, the farmers, they would have petitioned city hall for a community garden in that park and most likely would have gotten it.

It was illegal - against city codes.

So it was removed. Yes, no doubt City Hall Officials waited until harvest to drive the point home. It happens when you piss people off.

Hopefully these farmers will rethink this 'occupy' and actually take the right steps to petition for part of this park to be a community vegetable garden instead of trying to make a 'protest statement'.

I know that the near by towns and cities in my area have readily allotted public land to community vegetable gardens when the community asks for it.

Most public officials on the town/city level are usually a lot more willing and able to do things for the people than at state and federal levels.
 Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow


Right because forbid the world should we want any more food being grown. It's a ghastly site, food plants that is.. it's comparable to the likes of an outhouse or better, a ceramic thrown itself.

Because I'm certain a petition would have gone on to be approved.

Really? Lawlessness in growing food.. parish the thought.
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Re: Free community food garden removed by City of Toronto workers
If you read you discover that this park was 'occupied' - meaning it was taken by people who didn't want to follow the law and they turned it into a 'farm' illegally.

The city got around to finally cleaning it up.

Had they been smart about it, the farmers, they would have petitioned city hall for a community garden in that park and most likely would have gotten it.

It was illegal - against city codes.

So it was removed. Yes, no doubt City Hall Officials waited until harvest to drive the point home. It happens when you piss people off.

Hopefully these farmers will rethink this 'occupy' and actually take the right steps to petition for part of this park to be a community vegetable garden instead of trying to make a 'protest statement'.

I know that the near by towns and cities in my area have readily allotted public land to community vegetable gardens when the community asks for it.

Most public officials on the town/city level are usually a lot more willing and able to do things for the people than at state and federal levels.
 Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow


if you read, you wonder : why did the police stand there and watch them plant it, and leave it for five months until just before harvest time?
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Re: Free community food garden removed by City of Toronto workers
Without any advanced notice and under orders from City of Toronto Parks Director Richard Ubbens, workers removed all live plants and food from the five month old People’s Peas Garden in Queen’s Park on Friday.

When Occupy Gardens began planting on May 1, the event was reported on by multiple media and took place under the watchful eye of police.

“So they knew it was here and left it undisturbed for almost five months,” said Jacob Kearey-Moreland, in an interview on Saturday in Queen’s Park north.

Kearey-Moreland said Occupy Gardens had erected a sign with their contact information.

“And the city workers removed the sign and told my friend who was here that they’re keeping the sign for legal purposes in case they wanted to press charges or something like that.”

But on Friday, the Globe and Mail reported that Ubbens said, “The city did not touch base with the organizers of the People's Peas Garden because it had no contact information for the group.”

The Globe and Mail also reported that “Toronto parks director Richard Ubbens said the garden was removed because it was planted illegally.”

[link to rabble.ca]

it starts, my fellow Canadians. We've heard the horror stories of american authorities preventing regular people from growing their own food, or collecting their own rain-water -- now it comes our way.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


The authorities did no such thing. The occutards took over a public park unilaterally and reworked it into a garden, knowing that the city would come and rip it out and make the occutards appear to be martyrs.

You are perfectly free to grow your own garden in Toronto as long as you do it on your own property, or in one of the many community garden spaces that are provided for the purpose.
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this would be a great thread to pin..
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Re: Free community food garden removed by City of Toronto workers
If you read you discover that this park was 'occupied' - meaning it was taken by people who didn't want to follow the law and they turned it into a 'farm' illegally.

The city got around to finally cleaning it up.

Had they been smart about it, the farmers, they would have petitioned city hall for a community garden in that park and most likely would have gotten it.

It was illegal - against city codes.

So it was removed. Yes, no doubt City Hall Officials waited until harvest to drive the point home. It happens when you piss people off.

Hopefully these farmers will rethink this 'occupy' and actually take the right steps to petition for part of this park to be a community vegetable garden instead of trying to make a 'protest statement'.

I know that the near by towns and cities in my area have readily allotted public land to community vegetable gardens when the community asks for it.

Most public officials on the town/city level are usually a lot more willing and able to do things for the people than at state and federal levels.
 Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow


if you read, you wonder : why did the police stand there and watch them plant it, and leave it for five months until just before harvest time?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


The entire reason they planted the garden in the first place was because they knew it'd be taken out sooner than later. The plan was not to plant seeds, but to sow discord. Now that they city got around to taking the garden out, the occutards can whine and moan about being repressed by "the man." They knew the whole time that it would happen sooner or later, though.

I can't believe people like you are so stupid that they buy into the fake bullshit problem - reaction setup though. Either you're stupid or you're a commie, or maybe both, if you buy their story.
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if you read, you wonder : why did the police stand there and watch them plant it, and leave it for five months until just before harvest time?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


I don't have to wonder. I know human nature, this group of 'farmers' were most likely told to stop it, and they refused. So some politician decided to teach them a lesson and make an example out of them. Let them toil and work hard until the harvest and take the harvest from them.

Toronto already has community gardens... Legal places set aside for the sole purpose of raising veg. These 'farmers' were trying to make a point which obviously the politicians didn't get and instead turned to angry rebuttal - waiting until the ripest moment to rip out the garden.
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