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SpaceTard Discussion - Dark Rift / Photon Belt / Interstellar Energy Cloud

 
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I'm trying to start an ongoing thread about the energy cloud that the Milky Way/Earth is supposed to be entering. I've heard about this years ago, and researched it pretty intensely. The majority of information around the net are articles based upon information from Alexey Demetriev, as well as a few by Pane Andov and his theory, which I'm assuming is based upon/around Demetriev's work.

For people who have not yet read this, please check out this paper by Demetriev from 1998. It's a very well written piece, sourced with over 72 references.

PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE
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I'm just trying to figure out IF we've entered this energy cloud/belt yet, and if this is what's affecting us and our sun. If not, when are we going to enter it?

If you don't have the time right now, please bump the thread for later if you're interested. This thread can cover anything and everything having to do with this subject and/or related theories.
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Also, there is more recent work by Demetriev, I'm just starting with the link above because this was his first writing on the subject and basically the first thing I'd heard of it, years ago.

It makes 110% sense, with what is happening right now. I'm hoping a few bright minds from GLP want to take a good read and discuss what they see.
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I can't help but relate this to the activity at the poles as well as the strange sounds or "skyquakes" we've been experiencing lately. The ideas presented in his paper make much more sense than a Nibiru situation.

The question is, where is this energy, have we entered it, and how can we measure or verify it?
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I think it's all lies. If we regularly passed through a region of space as hazardous as some of the theories suggest, none of us would be here. Even if the interval was in the hundreds of thousands of years, life would find it difficult to establish a foothold & would be very much more primitive here on Earth right now.
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I'm trying to start an ongoing thread about the energy cloud that the Milky Way/Earth is supposed to be entering. I've heard about this years ago, and researched it pretty intensely. The majority of information around the net are articles based upon information from Alexey Demetriev, as well as a few by Pane Andov and his theory, which I'm assuming is based upon/around Demetriev's work.

For people who have not yet read this, please check out this paper by Demetriev from 1998. It's a very well written piece, sourced with over 72 references.

PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE
[link to tmgnow.com]

I'm just trying to figure out IF we've entered this energy cloud/belt yet, and if this is what's affecting us and our sun. If not, when are we going to enter it?

If you don't have the time right now, please bump the thread for later if you're interested. This thread can cover anything and everything having to do with this subject and/or related theories.
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we went into the Milky Way energy cloud back in Oct 2006. Its a done deal.
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I think it's all lies. If we regularly passed through a region of space as hazardous as some of the theories suggest, none of us would be here. Even if the interval was in the hundreds of thousands of years, life would find it difficult to establish a foothold & would be very much more primitive here on Earth right now.
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None of these are "hazadous" , the are rejuvenating. We are in 3. The Photon Belt of Alcyone, (1992 entry, completely in it now) The milky Way "cloud" since Oct 2006, and periodically in and out of the WAVE from Paradise.
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I can't help but relate this to the activity at the poles as well as the strange sounds or "skyquakes" we've been experiencing lately. The ideas presented in his paper make much more sense than a Nibiru situation.

The question is, where is this energy, have we entered it, and how can we measure or verify it?
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noises and skyquakes are from the WAVE
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I can't help but relate this to the activity at the poles as well as the strange sounds or "skyquakes" we've been experiencing lately. The ideas presented in his paper make much more sense than a Nibiru situation.

The question is, where is this energy, have we entered it, and how can we measure or verify it?
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The interstellar cloud they call The Local Fluff. Which is connected to the ribbon i think.

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I think it's all lies. If we regularly passed through a region of space as hazardous as some of the theories suggest, none of us would be here. Even if the interval was in the hundreds of thousands of years, life would find it difficult to establish a foothold & would be very much more primitive here on Earth right now.
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None of these are "hazadous" , the are rejuvenating. We are in 3. The Photon Belt of Alcyone, (1992 entry, completely in it now) The milky Way "cloud" since Oct 2006, and periodically in and out of the WAVE from Paradise.
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I never perceived them as being hazardous.. Well, kind of.

More so, I see them as beneficial. For example, if Pane Andov's theory ends up coming to fruition, we're going to suffer apparently. However, we might have the chance to embrace something like this if we know how..

Should all of the phenomena we're experiencing be due to interstellar energies, who's to say they're not for our benefit? Of course TPTB don't want us to attain a higher consciousness, but maybe this is what it's all about?
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I think it's all lies. If we regularly passed through a region of space as hazardous as some of the theories suggest, none of us would be here. Even if the interval was in the hundreds of thousands of years, life would find it difficult to establish a foothold & would be very much more primitive here on Earth right now.
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None of these are "hazadous" , the are rejuvenating. We are in 3. The Photon Belt of Alcyone, (1992 entry, completely in it now) The milky Way "cloud" since Oct 2006, and periodically in and out of the WAVE from Paradise.
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What about the ribbon, the one we were supposed to be entering right about now? The poles seem to be going crazy, the sun just had that weird triangular black spot in it a few months ago, jupiter has some insane super-storms, etc..
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I think it's all lies. If we regularly passed through a region of space as hazardous as some of the theories suggest, none of us would be here. Even if the interval was in the hundreds of thousands of years, life would find it difficult to establish a foothold & would be very much more primitive here on Earth right now.
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Maybe, maybe not.. Look how far we've come in the last 100 years alone..

There's plenty of evidence to suggest that we may have had high technology on earth thousands and thousands of years ago..

I don't think it can be debunked that easily, there's a lot more to it. It's also dependent on what theories of life/evolution/adaption you're considering.
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talk was we're entering the densest portion of an highly magnetized interstellar cloud...
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C'mon guys..

With all the claims of Nibiru (which cannot be seen) causing all the odd events on earth, why is this not MORE plausible?

An energy like this WOULD affect our magnetosphere, our sun, out atmosphere and our solar system as a whole..

It makes MUCH more sense fro an unexplained galactic energy to be causing this than the supposed gravitational pull from an invisible planet.

IMO, our solar sytem is balanced, and IF there was a nibiru or similar planet, its orbit would have a purpose and it would keep our solar system balanced, not throw it off course. Then again, maybe the purpose of the balance (if it exists) is to shake up the earth and cleanse it's surface every so often. Who knows.
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talk was we're entering the densest portion of an highly magnetized interstellar cloud...
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I know but I'm having a hard time finding anything recent or any hypothesized dates for this..

The storms in the poles and artic regions have been insane over the last week.
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Here's my theory;

We cross the galactic plane on Dec 21 - 23.
We are now entering the unbalanced section of the energy.

Imagine a magnet, positive on one end, and negative on another.
...Balanced.

Same thing with our solar system/universe.
One side of the galactic plane is positive, the other negative.
While both forces are balanced, they interact with everything differently.

As we cross the plane, we move from one side to another.
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Also, we have this, which again refers to Dmetreivs work.

World’s Pyramids Beaming Energy To Mysterious Space Cloud
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I think it's all lies. If we regularly passed through a region of space as hazardous as some of the theories suggest, none of us would be here. Even if the interval was in the hundreds of thousands of years, life would find it difficult to establish a foothold & would be very much more primitive here on Earth right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21875942


None of these are "hazadous" , the are rejuvenating. We are in 3. The Photon Belt of Alcyone, (1992 entry, completely in it now) The milky Way "cloud" since Oct 2006, and periodically in and out of the WAVE from Paradise.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


What about the ribbon, the one we were supposed to be entering right about now? The poles seem to be going crazy, the sun just had that weird triangular black spot in it a few months ago, jupiter has some insane super-storms, etc..
 Quoting: Slick Vick


We are not 'entering' the ribbon. The ribbon is a 'magnetic' area that is reacting to the heliosphere and a change in the cloud we are in. We have come into a more 'energetic' area of the cloud.
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Here's my theory;

We cross the galactic plane on Dec 21 - 23.
We are now entering the unbalanced section of the energy.

Imagine a magnet, positive on one end, and negative on another.
...Balanced.

Same thing with our solar system/universe.
One side of the galactic plane is positive, the other negative.
While both forces are balanced, they interact with everything differently.

As we cross the plane, we move from one side to another.
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And.....?

What do you expect from the crossing of it? Shifts in the poles that are solely magnetic? Actual planetary pole shifts where we literally reverse hemispheres??? What do you think we can expect from the sun before,during, and after?
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Thread: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!!

UPDATE

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Jun 15, 2012
Data from NASA's Voyager 1 spacecraft indicate that the venerable deep-space explorer has encountered a region in space where the intensity of charged particles from beyond our solar system has markedly increased. Voyager scientists looking at this rapid rise draw closer to an inevitable but historic conclusion - that humanity's first emissary to interstellar space is on the edge of our solar system.

"The latest data indicate that we are clearly in a new region where things are changing more quickly. It is very exciting. We are approaching the solar system's frontier."


This marked increase is one of a triad of data sets which need to make significant swings of the needle to indicate a new era in space exploration. The second important measure from the spacecraft's two telescopes is the intensity of energetic particles generated inside the heliosphere, the bubble of charged particles the Sun blows around itself.
[link to www.space-travel.com]

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IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 miles (84,000 km) per hour, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft.

So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence.

"It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas.

"Observations of a few astrospheres have shown bow shocks around those stars, but IBEX has shown that our star has a fundamentally different environment surrounding it," says Christina Prested (Boston University), an IBEX scientist not involved in the published study. "These results are very exciting as we can now definitively say what it's like in the neighborhood of our solar system."


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Here's my theory;

We cross the galactic plane on Dec 21 - 23.
We are now entering the unbalanced section of the energy.

Imagine a magnet, positive on one end, and negative on another.
...Balanced.

Same thing with our solar system/universe.
One side of the galactic plane is positive, the other negative.
While both forces are balanced, they interact with everything differently.

As we cross the plane, we move from one side to another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


And.....?

What do you expect from the crossing of it? Shifts in the poles that are solely magnetic? Actual planetary pole shifts where we literally reverse hemispheres??? What do you think we can expect from the sun before,during, and after?
 Quoting: Slick Vick


Well, I would expect the world to spin the opposite way after pausing for a couple days (21-23) while we're on the plane of the magnet.

Hard to explain without my hands and diagrams.

However, with the Earth rotating the opposite way land masses would have to shift, and other things would have to change in order to get back to a balance.

I don't believe this is a bad thing.
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I think it's all lies. If we regularly passed through a region of space as hazardous as some of the theories suggest, none of us would be here. Even if the interval was in the hundreds of thousands of years, life would find it difficult to establish a foothold & would be very much more primitive here on Earth right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21875942


None of these are "hazadous" , the are rejuvenating. We are in 3. The Photon Belt of Alcyone, (1992 entry, completely in it now) The milky Way "cloud" since Oct 2006, and periodically in and out of the WAVE from Paradise.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


What about the ribbon, the one we were supposed to be entering right about now? The poles seem to be going crazy, the sun just had that weird triangular black spot in it a few months ago, jupiter has some insane super-storms, etc..
 Quoting: Slick Vick


We are not 'entering' the ribbon. The ribbon is a 'magnetic' area that is reacting to the heliosphere and a change in the cloud we are in. We have come into a more 'energetic' area of the cloud.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Do you think the cloud you're speaking of encompasses the whole solar system? Where do you perceive the location of this magnetic ribbon to be, and do you think it will become more intense with time?
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Here's my theory;

We cross the galactic plane on Dec 21 - 23.
We are now entering the unbalanced section of the energy.

Imagine a magnet, positive on one end, and negative on another.
...Balanced.

Same thing with our solar system/universe.
One side of the galactic plane is positive, the other negative.
While both forces are balanced, they interact with everything differently.

As we cross the plane, we move from one side to another.
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Please READ MY FACTS above and you can drop your theory.
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Here's my theory;

We cross the galactic plane on Dec 21 - 23.
We are now entering the unbalanced section of the energy.

Imagine a magnet, positive on one end, and negative on another.
...Balanced.

Same thing with our solar system/universe.
One side of the galactic plane is positive, the other negative.
While both forces are balanced, they interact with everything differently.

As we cross the plane, we move from one side to another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Please READ MY FACTS above and you can drop your theory.
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Sorry, I do not believe anything is a fact.
I cannot believe in FACTS.

Facts are purchased and edited by the highest bidder in this world.

Beliefs remain my only way to understand life...And that does not mean I am right...I simply understand things and make theories that fit and seem to make sense.
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None of these are "hazadous" , the are rejuvenating. We are in 3. The Photon Belt of Alcyone, (1992 entry, completely in it now) The milky Way "cloud" since Oct 2006, and periodically in and out of the WAVE from Paradise.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


What about the ribbon, the one we were supposed to be entering right about now? The poles seem to be going crazy, the sun just had that weird triangular black spot in it a few months ago, jupiter has some insane super-storms, etc..
 Quoting: Slick Vick


We are not 'entering' the ribbon. The ribbon is a 'magnetic' area that is reacting to the heliosphere and a change in the cloud we are in. We have come into a more 'energetic' area of the cloud.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Do you think the cloud you're speaking of encompasses the whole solar system? Where do you perceive the location of this magnetic ribbon to be, and do you think it will become more intense with time?
 Quoting: Slick Vick


The solar system is tiny in comparison to these clouds, so yes, we are fully encompassed. The magnetic ribbon is getting some confusion. The magnetic ribbon that the IBEX shows is an interaction with increased energy hitting the heliosphere.

My best guess is that we are actually leaving the cloud. But, we came across an interface region before leaving it. These interface regions can be traveled through for over 500 years or more.

Go to the first link, it has a picture of why the ribbon look s like it does. I will get some pix uploaded so people can see where we are at. Give me a little bit.

Thread: Riding the Interface Region

I have been searching for a while, trying to found out how long it takes for the Solar System to transit through interstellar cloud boundaries.

These cloud boundaries are termed, Interface Regions. Well, it seems to be a surprisingly short time-frame - ~500 years. Of course, this is 'best guess'. But, at these Interface Regions theSolar System (Earth) begins to see changes...mainly cosmic ray influx as well as neutral particles changing.

We are seeing exactly those things occurring, as well as other changes and unprecidented findings occurring in the solar environment...



The Sun’s journey through the local interstellar medium: the paleoLISM and paleoheliosphere -

The primary conclusion of this paper is that, over the past several million years, both the galactic environment of the Sun and the heliosphere have been significantly different than they are today. Observational data combined with theoretical studies can be used to reconstruct the three-dimensional distribution of nearby ISM, and predict the times the Sun transitioned between different environments. If we assume a continuously distributed local ISM, within the past ~130,000 ± ~70,000 years, and possibly as recent as ~56,000 years ago, the Sun entered low density partially ionized ISM flowing away from the direction of the Scorpius-Centaurus Association. Sometime within the past ~40,000 years the Sun entered the cloud now surrounding the solar system, the LIC. These estimates rely on topologically simple models of the cluster of local interstellar clouds (CLIC) flowing past the Sun; more elaborate models are discussed elsewhere (Frisch, 1994; Gry, 1996; Mueller et al., 2006, FS06). As the Sun moves through this complex of local interstellar clouds, the boundary conditions of the heliosphere should change by substantial amounts due to changes in cloud temperature, velocity, and opacity-driven variations in the ionization of the surrounding ISM. Prior to that, the Sun was in the low density plasma of the Local Bubble cavity. Between the Local Bubble cavity and the CLIC, the Sun briefly (~500 years) passed through an interface region of some type.
[link to www.astrophys-space-sci-trans.net]
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Our heliosphere is like a protective cocoon being inflated in the interstellar medium by the Sun’s million mph solar wind. As our Sun orbits the center of the galaxy every 225 million years, it bobs in and out of the disk of the galaxy like a horse on a merry–go–round. As it does this, it passes through areas of the interstellar medium that are more and less dense, causing the heliosphere to change in shape and size. Denser areas can compress the heliosphere, while less dense regions allow the bubble to expand. In addition, the strength of the solar wind varies over the Sun’s cycle, "breathing" periodically, also contributing to this.

Understanding how all of these things affect the heliosphere is important so that we can better understand how the heliosphere protects us. It is a crucial layer of protection against dangerous cosmic rays that are harmful to living things. As cosmic rays approach the heliosphere, they are deflected, and the majority of them are not able to pass into the inner Solar System. Fortunately, our Earth’s magnetic field is usually able to shield life on Earth from the remaining cosmic rays. However, astronauts on deep space missions cannot bring the Earth’s protection with them. We must also consider how the heliosphere will protect us in the distant future or how it did protect us in the past. Understanding the heliosphere and how it protects us is part of understanding our home in the galaxy.

[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]

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Here's my theory;

We cross the galactic plane on Dec 21 - 23.
We are now entering the unbalanced section of the energy.

Imagine a magnet, positive on one end, and negative on another.
...Balanced.

Same thing with our solar system/universe.
One side of the galactic plane is positive, the other negative.
While both forces are balanced, they interact with everything differently.

As we cross the plane, we move from one side to another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Please READ MY FACTS above and you can drop your theory.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


I'm not necessarily speaking about the energy you've stated above. I'm speaking more of the energy that's mentioned in Dmetreiv's and Pandov's theories.

Additionally, I don't see how those are factual as it's really an unknown science.

What about an energy coming from deep within the center of the Milky Way? Sorry, I just can't dismiss it so easily because I believe it's much more complex than what you've offered, but I will respect (and look into) your opinions, info, and anything else you'd like to share.

This could easily be the answer to everything oddd that we cannot explain..
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Here's my theory;

We cross the galactic plane on Dec 21 - 23.
We are now entering the unbalanced section of the energy.

Imagine a magnet, positive on one end, and negative on another.
...Balanced.

Same thing with our solar system/universe.
One side of the galactic plane is positive, the other negative.
While both forces are balanced, they interact with everything differently.

As we cross the plane, we move from one side to another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Please READ MY FACTS above and you can drop your theory.
 Quoting: Margaret Smith


I'm not necessarily speaking about the energy you've stated above. I'm speaking more of the energy that's mentioned in Dmetreiv's and Pandov's theories.

Additionally, I don't see how those are factual as it's really an unknown science.

What about an energy coming from deep within the center of the Milky Way? Sorry, I just can't dismiss it so easily because I believe it's much more complex than what you've offered, but I will respect (and look into) your opinions, info, and anything else you'd like to share.

This could easily be the answer to everything oddd that we cannot explain..
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It does explain everything odd. I respect Andov's work, and we've spoken to each other a few times. IMO, he has got some of it wrong, for example the sun turning into a red giant.

It is very complex. This is more accurate than Pane's conclusions, IMO.

Thread: CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN
CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN
G. P. ZANK
Bartol Research Institute, University of Delaware, Newark, DE 19716
AND
P. C. FRISCH1
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, University of Chicago, IL 60637
Received 1998 November 12; accepted 1999 January 27

ABSTRACT

The interaction of the heliosphere with interstellar clouds has attracted interest since the late 1920s, with a view to explaining apparent both quasi-periodic climate "catastrophes" as well as periodic mass extinctions. Until recently, however, models describing the solar windÈlocal interstellar medium (LISM)interaction self-consistently had not been developed. Here we describe the results of a two-dimensional simulation of the interaction between the heliosphere and an interstellar cloud with the same properties as currently, except that the H0 density is increased from the present value of n(H0)D0.2 cm~3 to 10 cm~3. The mutual interaction of interstellar neutral hydrogen and plasma is included. The heliospheric cavity is reduced considerably in size (approximately 10È14 AU to the termination shock in the
upstream direction) and is highly dynamical. The interplanetary environment at the orbit of the Earth changes markedly, with the density of interstellar H0 increasing to D2 cm~3. The termination shock itself experiences periods where it disappears, reforms, and disappears again.
Considerable mixing of the shocked solar wind and LISM occurs because of Rayleigh-TaylorÈlike instabilities at the nose, driven by ion-neutral friction. Implications of two anomalously high concentrations of 10Be found in Antarctic ice cores, corresponding to 33,000 and 60,000 yr ago, and the absence of prior similar events are discussed in terms of density enhancements in the surrounding interstellar cloud. The calculation presented here supports past speculation that the Galactic environment of the Sun moderates the interplanetary
environment at the orbit of the Earth and possibly also the terrestrial climate.


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Here is a discussion on The Earth and Life:

Thread: The Earth and Life - by Russian Scientist: DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV
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This is the info that came in at the end of 2010.
Thread: New Info from Edge of Solar System
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Here is the second big release about the magnetic ribbon, when they were still trying to figure out what the hell it was.

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ScienceDaily (Oct. 1, 2010) — The unusual "knot" in the bright, narrow ribbon of neutral atoms emanating in from the boundary between our solar system and interstellar space appears to have "untied," according to a paper published online in the Journal of Geophysical Research...

...Analyses of the first map, released last fall, suggest the ribbon is somehow ordered by the direction of the local interstellar magnetic field outside the heliosphere, influencing the structure of the heliosphere more than researchers had previously believed. The knot feature seen in the northern portion of the ribbon in the first map stood apart from the rest of the ribbon as the brightest feature at higher energies.

While the second map, released publicly with the just-published paper, shows the large-scale structure of the ribbon to be generally stable within the six-month period, changes are also apparent. The polar regions of the ribbon display lower emissions and the knot diminishes by as much as a third and appears to "untie" as it spreads out to both lower and higher latitudes...

"What we're seeing is the knot pull apart as it spreads across a region of the ribbon," says Dr. David J. McComas, IBEX principal investigator and an assistant vice president at Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio. "To this day the science team can't agree on exactly what causes the knot or the ribbon, but by comparing different sky maps we find the surprising result that the region is changing over relatively short time periods. Now we have to figure out why."

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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Here is when I busted NASA lying about them saying they knew nothing about these clouds in 2010.

Thread: 1978 scientific paper from NASA Astrophysics Data System , "Is the Solar System Entering a Nearby Interstellar Cloud?"
This is from the 1978 scientific paper provided by the NASA Astrophysics Data System entitled, "Is the Solar System Entering a Nearby Interstellar Cloud?"

Page 599, Part VI
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..."The presence of a nearby cloud might also affect the physical conditions inside the solar system...

...an encounter with a cloud might not only affect nuetrino flux release from the Sun but also have some drastic influence on the terrestrial climate in the next 10,000 years...

...The observations and analyses mentioned here suggest the presence of a very close interstellar cloud which should encounter the solar system in the "near" future. However, the complexity of the interstellar medium is not completely understood, it would not be surprising if the situation is far more complicated than indicated in this paper."



LMAO, and NASA had articles in 23 December 2009 saying that this was a big surprise and that, "Our solar system is passing through a cloud of interstellar material that shouldn't be there, astronomers say."

Then, it is almost an exact quote from the 1978 article, "Their strong magnetic fields could compress the heliosphere even more than it is compressed now," according to NASA. "Additional compression could allow more cosmic rays to reach the inner solar system, possibly affecting terrestrial climate and the ability of astronauts to travel safely through space."

[link to www.space.com]

Undeniable PROOF that NASA is keeping a lot of information secret, waiting for a proper time to release the 'newly discovered' information. Fuckers...
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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