Christians need to come together NOW, before it's too late!

Amen and Amen...

We are one body..Brother's and Sister's in Christ the LORD..

For it is not what we have done for GOD, it is what GOD has done for us at the *Cross* in Christ Jesus!

Maranatha Jesus!!!

Of coures there are arguments about the bible and god. There are little to no facts in it. People can argue to eternity about our many bibles out there. It will not get you anywhere accept a wast of energy.

I know! I was born and raised Catholic. I have been around people who use pitty as a tool to get whatever they want at church and go home to drink, and abuse themselvs and others. I have seen preachers show up to mass with a cigeret and a gay lover by their side like they just finnished doing the nasty and proly jokeing about all the suckers out there. I have seen familys inheritenc taken away by churches because some dying relitve was wisked away and told to sign a paper for the church of god.

I will not subscribe to that ever again.

My personal favorites:12,15 :D



1. Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night — Isaac Asimov

2. I don’t believe in God. My god is patriotism. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life. — Andrew Carnegie

3. All thinking men are atheists. — Ernest Hemingway

4. Lighthouses are more helpful then churches. — Benjamin Franklin

5. Faith means not wanting to know what is true. — Friedrich Nietzsche

6. The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. — George Bernard Shaw

7. Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile. — Kurt Vonnegut

8. I believe in God, only I spell it Nature. — Frank Lloyd Wright

9. Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. — Denis Diderot

10. A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows. — Samuel Clemens

11. The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life. — Sigmund Freud

12. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon

13. The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church. — Ferdinand Magellan

14. Not only is there no god, but try getting a plumber on weekends. — Woody Allen

15. It’s an incredible con job when you think about it, to believe something now in exchange for something after death. Even corporations with their reward systems don’t try to make it posthumous. — Gloria Steinem

It is true that conflict and strife among professing Christians does not help unbelievers come to the truth.
It is also true that giving unbelievers error can cause more harm than benefit. On GLP, it seems to be great sport for unbelievers to pose questions to create strife and to strengthen their unbelief. They pose unfair questions usually because God has done all He can do to prevent people from going tro Hell. He died in our place so that we can have eternal life. Basic Biblical truths cannot be compromised for the sake of making people feel good.
When people teach Biblical error and deny the power of God, it is heresy to go along just to get along.
People who are genuinely seeking God will find Him.
The Bible (Proverbs 23:9) says "Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of your words."
So it is counterproductive to respond to the "Christian-baiters" on internet forums. It is also counterproductive to argue with those professing Christians who teach error.
State Biblical truth and do not get into confrontations....just state the truth....God's Word does not return void. Some genuine seeker will hear.

Not sure what all those quotes prove, but since you like quotes..Here are some more.

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Napoleon, Emperor of the French (1804-1814), 1769-1821

“The gospel is not a book; it is a living being, with an action, a power, which invades every thing that opposes its extension, behold! It is upon this table: This book, surpassing all others. I never omit to read it, and every day with some pleasure.”

Pascal, French philosopher and mathematician, developed the modern theory of probability, 1623-1662

“I prefer to believe those writers who get their throats cut for what they write.”

Isaac Newton, English mathematician and scientist, 1642-1727

“We account the scriptures of God to be the most sublime philosophy. I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever.”

Voltaire, French infidel, died 1778

- said that within 100 years of his time, Christianity would be swept away from existence and pass into the obscurity of history.

-Yet 50 years after his death, the Geneva Bible Society used his house and printing press to produce stacks of Bibles.

Robert Dick Wilson, fluent in more than 45 languages and dialects

Concluded after a lifetime study of the Old Testament:

“I may add that the result of my 45 years of study of the Bible has led me all the time to a firmer faith that in the Old Testament, we have a true historical account of the history of the Israelite people.”

The Cambridge History of the Bible

“No other book has known anything approaching this constant circulation.”


St. Jerome, Roman Catholic church father

“Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.”

Sir Ambrose Flemming, British electrical engineer and inventor, 1849-1945

“We must not build on the sands of an uncertain and everchanging science…but upon the rock of inspired Scriptures.”

Jean Jacques Rousseau, French skeptic

“Jewish authors would never have invented either that style nor that morality; and the Gospel has marks of truth so great, so striking, so utterly inimitable, that the invention of it would be more astonishing than the hero.”

Patrick Henry, American Revolutionary leader and orator, 1736-1799

“There is a book worth all other books which were ever printed.”

President Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States

“Of the many influences that have shaped the United States into a distinctive nation and people, none may be said to be more fundamental and enduring than the Bible.”

President George Washington, First President of the United States

“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”

Immanuel Kant, German idealist philosopher, 1724-1804

“I believe that the existence of the Bible is the greatest benefit to the human race. Any attempt to belittle it, I believe, is a crime against humanity.”

Robert E. Lee, Civil War General who fought for the Southern Confederacy:

“In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.”

Abraham Lincoln, 16th President of the United States, 1809-1865

“I am busily engaged in the study of the Bible. I believe it is God’s word because it finds me where I am.”

“I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man. All the good of the Savior of the world is communicated to us through the Book.”

Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, 1856-1924

“When you have read the Bible, you know it is the word of God, because it is the key to your heart, your own happiness, and your own duty.”

Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, 1858-1919

“A thorough understanding of the Bible is better than a college education.”

Citations

- There are 32,000 citations of the N.T. in the writings of the Church fathers written prior to the Council of Nice (A.D. 325).

Daniel Webster, American politician and noted orator, 1782-1852

“I believe that the Bible is to be understood and received in the plain and obvious meaning of its passages; for I cannot persuade myself that a book intended for the instruction and conversion of the whole world should cover its true meaning in any such mystery and doubt that none but critics and philosophers can discover it.”

“Education is useless without the Bible.”


[link to www.why-the-bible.com]

They were convienced to believe that their god will save them so much that they cannot see the true help of others to move on from the bullshit

I agree! just love one another and be peaceful!

AMEN!

God's word needs no defense. Believe it or not GOD is big enough to defend Himself and He DOES! In agreement with Child of God.

Why is it that when a person hears voices in his head that dont belong to God he needs to be committed as a lunatic but when they say they hear God's voice then thats okay?! Secondly my problem with this whole religion thing is that it teaches people to love an imaginary being over all others? I mean whats that about? Why would anyone love someone they have never seen, heard, or met above your physical loved ones that really need that attention. My parents are very devout Baptists and they spend more time in the church then they spend with their own family. They also claim to always be "broke" but always seem to be able to tithe every Sunday, Tues, Wed and Friday! Now dont get me wrong, I believe religion serves a good purpose in the respect that it makes humans act like they have some sense due to the fear of going to Hell if they dont. Our brains use reason and logic when it comes to everything on this planet EXCEPT when it comes to you know who! I have always treated others in the same way I would want to be treated w/o claiming any religious affiliation and for that society looks down on those but hoist up those that are evil to the core but act as if they love God. Its all so confusing!!

Isn't a open discussion amongst the Christians important, to keep us relevant and strong. I'm more afraid of infiltration. And Trolls doing the stuff you are saying, with some darker agenda behind. One good example is the Vatican or these super-rich TV-preachers. But I am also afraid of the destruction of our religion. Why are states adding us to the lists? The answer is easy. So, come together, but keep the theological discussion open, and the infiltration out.

-Fellow Christian from Norway.

The real 'Good News', is that the younger more educated generations, who are much more interconnected are realizing the fallacies/inconsistencies to these fairy tales. They will be left to the dust in 50yrs.

God has always used man to share His truth, read through the Prophets. Paul also spoke the truth and corrected the churches when they were in error.

Ezekiel says this:

Ezekiel 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

Ezekiel 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

So what is your alternative Anonymous Coward?

The naive faith in "the young" are crazy... I can see your so-called opened souls, they are so caught up in the MSM/corp lies, and are even more lost than us, and they have no fate. By the way, I'm reaching 30, are I young or old? I have from both worlds.

Why not immediately? Try this:

[link to www.anchorstone.com]

... to debunk.

Am I...

soli deo gloria. true indeed OP





concentrate on the weightier things brethren. fruits of the spirits.


sometimes its God's will to be wrong suffered doing right. he called us to act as he did in christ jesus. 1 peter 3:17

People who are only consumeristic, without any faith or bigger belief scares me the most, I don't know where they stand, on anything. At least a person with a fate of some sort have certain "rules" to honor. I'm not for a fundamentalistic way, I like the open discussions, and the freedom to add different elements that fits my state of mind. I have come a long way from the small church house and sunday school, via higher education in different arts and philosophy. So, I am at a spot I really like, it's interesting, fulfillig, and lets me explore the elements and the enviroment, more like the Gnostic Christians from before The Vatican. I'm in constant development, with some dead ends on the way, but they are at least my own choices. There are not any easy and cheap solutions, like the consumerists love it to be. But one doesn't have to know alot of stuff or start a certain place, one just begins, and then slowly build up a faith. In something greater than flesh and bones and the stuff one can hold in the hand or see in front of the eyes.

The catholic church is not now nor has it ever been christian. The rest of the denominations have mainly left the bible, old lutheran or King James 1611 and most of their nominal members are lost. Op is calling for ecumenical movement which will end up in the one world religion of the last days. The "GREAT WHORE" of Revelation chapter 17 whose colors are SCARLET and PURPLE. Only the catholic church uses that combination of colors.

To read old bibles in dozens of languages see; [link to 86.109.29.66]

dear one, this is 4 d and this is the nature of it, and people have to come into their OWN understandings and stop the following. For you to even use the term "non believer" in your post is disastrous on your part. I am a non believer, because I am a KNOWER. Beliefs are postulates not knowing and you ones are going to have to go thru this process because once you become KNOWERS, it will end the dissension. Ponder these words. Christianity has become one of the most destructive forces on this world.

Now go back and read your whole post. you have made some truths in it. The issue is that so few have any understanding of who or what god is on this world and they will all destroy each other until they do. at that point the destruction will stop.

you have just blown every thing "Jesus" every taught. He did NONE of what you just stated. You have been hoodwinked. He came to Demonstrate the Way and teach truth. You ones have allow the very satanic ones of this earth to have their way with these lies. God with Nothing for you at the Cross of Christ Jesus. He was murdered, except he wasn't. that was allowed so he could get the hell out of that slime pit and continue with the teaching elsewhere.

That you ones accept the above is going to cause all of you to fight until you LEARN the truth. You don't know what GOD is in your statement above. Do you mean the Father of the Creation? Do you mean the hierarchy of the creation? What do you mean? Jesus was never the man's name as he walked this planet. He was given that afterwards by Paul who was one mixed up dude.

I have post here incessantly that the incarnation was by TWO sharing the same body. One was Michael of Nebadon, who is the father of this particular universe and thus God. He is not the father of the whole creation. The other was one in training for these times, Esu Immanuel. Michael of Nebadon Left the incarnation at the crucifixion, and Esu continued on, going to India where many of his teaching are well documented in that area. He is called Isa there.

Nobody can save you except yourself. You are given life by the Father thru his Son Michael of Nebadon. But they cannot save you no stupid murder can do it either.

Every group on this planet are sent avatars at appropriate times. Everyone searching for God is sanctified because they are searching for God. Once they discover the Father is Their father, they fighting ENDS. For then they are open to this, they are open to guidance from above.

Tell me "Christians", are you willing to include Catholics in that number? Or do we still carry the "stain" of being non-Christian in your "holy" sight?

Seriously, this is really getting on my last nerve.

Excuse me, but the Methodist church as well as others make use of purple and red colors in the liturgical year.

Shall we throw the baby out with the bath water then?

Enjoy your position already here on Earth:

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

And your point is WHAT?

Christians will not be god like until they stop using that label, and accept every single group of people on this planet as holy. You must drop the STAIN of following that which the antichrist has put in place as religions. The only label once you know, that you will use to describe your self., will be " SON OF GOD." Period. And then you will also see all others that way.

Catholics fulfill the prophecy. Your teachings are non-biblical, pagan-Christian.