Why Elenin IS NOT a brown dwarf 4x the mass of Jupiter.

No comment?

I guess you guys have NO argument.

You should seek early retirement.



Z

Well he does have a point now, and besides no the gravitational pull of some of the other planets would be fucked up. So I don't know what to tell you

Who is the person that started the elenin = px BS anyways?

If it WERE a brown drawf, it would already be disturbing the orbits of the planets it's passed, and others even closer to the Sun.




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Im seeing pictures and videos of a star like object on the bottom right of the sun popping up globally for a year now so we have data its called use your eyes. Couldn't be as small as you claim it to be. This object is huge and has 5 other moons attached to it. I'm not hating, i just don't like how you say we "elenin tards will start some new bs. Name calling for brown dwarf reality is so 2010. Wake up man stop listening to Hoaglands dumb ass.

"Luminosity: Main sequence stars cool, but eventually reach a minimum luminosity which they can sustain through steady fusion. This varies from star to star, but is generally at least 0.01% the luminosity of our Sun. Brown dwarfs cool and darken steadily over their lifetimes: sufficiently old brown dwarfs will be too faint to be detectable."

More info:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Who started the px= elenin? Or the elenin=px? Take your pick.

people who believe a brown dwarf is in our solar system know nothing about astronomy. a brown dwarf is an extremely massive and powerful object, everyone would know by now if it was here.

btw binary stars orbit around each other. one does't orbit the other. our companion star would never even get close

...Or else your "astronomy" is out-dated and sorely lacking in a complete understanding/explanation of an infinite universe beyond your pay grade.


Z

You should take that up with the WISE scientists. They've published a partial list of discoveries in our solar system, and that list includes one (1) brown dwarf. If you've got better equipment and more info than they do, please, get a hold of them and correct them.

it is desturbing orbits& tilting earth.

If ELENIN was a brown dwarf, by now, this solar system would have a bunch of rogue moons and planets, ejected from their orbits and we already would be all DEAD!

simply not true...

Why would they be ejected out rather than being caught in a gravity troff. Gravity attracts, it is electromagnetic to the core of objects. Things would have to collide to cause them to repel in space.

as a student of astronomy, i know that it is a science that is highly lacking understanding.

but aren't you using astronomy to 'prove' there is a brown dwarf? how do you know a brown dwarf is possible if astronomy is as incomplete as you believe?

here you are, telling me it is the fallacies of astronomy that prove its real, and yet the next guy below you says the "wise" scientists and their "wise" astronomy prove its real. so which is it? you believers don't even have a consensus among yourselves.

i'll say it again. you have no clue what you are even talking about. go ahead and get your panties in a wad cause i can tell youre getting annoyed.

Yes it would. A brown dwarf 4x the mass of jupiter, would have such a massive gravitational force, that the solar system would be completely thrown out of balance. And since it's close to us then jupiter, and nothing has happened orbit wise, then we know it isn't even close to the size of jupiter, let alone larger.

oh and you've observed this brown dwarf with scientific equipment? or do you just believe everything you hear?

It comes around every 3600 years . so do the research.
many will die soon :(
oh how I wish it were not true but look at the signs and prophecy's they are all there
look at all the facts.
If you are intelligent you will see the writing on the wall.
we all know deep down something is coming to change our world as we know it.

What does this vague paragraph have anything to do with COMET eleinin being a brown dwarf when it is scientifically impossible.

It's current position is not bottom right of the Sun.

switcharoo

in my right hand i have a monkey (look at the monkey)
but actually im left handed.


part two?

She's Apocalypse Girl.

What the hell do you expect her to say?

She thinks it's Niburu.

I am not saying anything of the kind. I am reading and taking in a much information as possible regarding the current earth changes happening at an apparent accelerated rate over the last 10 or so years,… and contrasting that with other planets in the solar system and what may be happening to them ,…and correlating that information with the apparent tilting/shifting axis/Volcano/Earthquake/Tsunami/Solar ejections/Civil unrest issues and whatnot,…

Which all tend to give a great deal of color and body to ancient myths on ending cosmic cycles at this time.

Could be a Brown Dwarf,…I don’t know. Space "Science" folks around the world have been throwing into the mix all kinds of cool, before unknown space information.

4 rogue Jupiter sized planets with no sun for instance.


Z

Personally, I do not think Elenin is a brown dwarf. I believe that Elenin represents the debris field and the planetary system OF the brown dwarf, which is already here now.

Here's a couple pics, courtesy of the Neumayer scientists in Antarctica:

Neumayer with moon overhead:
[link to tinypic.com]

Neumayer, 3 hours later, brown dwarf overhead:
[link to tinypic.com]

There's your brown dwarf. And look how BIG it is. The Moon and the Sun are the same size in the sky from our perspective here on Earth. That object in the second pic is BIGGER (from our perspective) than either the Moon or the Sun, which means...it's getting close.

Of course, if it WERE close, then you'd expect to see:

* More volcanic eruptions
* More quakes and bigger quakes
* More landslides
* More 'rogue waves'
* Strange weather
* Animal die-offs (brown dwarves are powerful x-ray sources)
* More building collapses (tidal force)
* More sinkholes
* More lithospheric disruptions (tears in the Earth)

Well, gee, we ARE experiencing a lot more of all of that. I wonder why. Actually, no, I don't. I know why.

I chose an inappropriate word. Replace "ejected" by "dragged" or "pulled". The idea is still the same, though. If ELENIN was a brown dwarf, by now, it would have completely disturbed the planets and moons of this solar system, from their original orbits.

fair enough. something might be amiss in our galactic neighborhood, but i highly doubt a massive object like a brown dwarf could be in our solar system. as far as our current understanding of physics goes, it would not make sense. then again, how much do we really know?

can you explain this?

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