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** Leonid Elenin Replaces Elenin With a Brown Dwarf : Watch What Happens **

 
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** Leonid Elenin Replaces Elenin With a Brown Dwarf : Watch What Happens **
What if we replace comet Elenin by brown dwarf?
[link to spaceobs.org]

"What if we replace comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) by brown dwarf with mass about 0.05 of Solar mass? This video demonstrate time interval from 2000 to 2020 years. As you can see, dramatic changes in the orbit of Saturn would have started 3 years ago. But at this time all planets are on it’s nominal orbits. I think myth about “brown dwarf instead comet Elenin” is debunked. You can see that by yourself..."




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GOOD NEWS THANX5a
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My last video on Elenin;


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Interesting, to say the least - thanks! =)
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I've been saying this since February. Comet Elenin is a regular comet.

All regular comets are being affected by the electrodynamic atmosphere of the sun also known as the Heliosphere.

The intensity of the cometary discharge SHOULD be proportional to the duration of its Orbital Period.

Comet's do not affect the solar system by their mass. They affect the solar system via interaction with the entire plasma environment of the heliosphere, which extends beyond the orbits of any planets in our solar system. You could say our entire solar system is encapsulated in a bubble of plasma called the heliosphere. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Comets interact on an electrical basis, not on gravity alone. You won't see Comet Elenin pulling along debris with it.

As Comet Elenin approaches the only thing that we should be really worrying about is an encounter with it's Cometary Tail. The longest measured cometary tail was comet Hyakutake with a tail length of over 500 million kilometers.

Comet Elenin will be 0.23 AU from Earth at it's minimum orbit, which is only 34 million kilometers from Earth to the Comet.

Even a cometary tail 1/5th the length of Comet Hyakutake will engulf earth and the moon.

What can a cometary tail do? We're not entirely sure, but it's made up of charged particles, just like a Coronal Mass Ejection.

An encounter with a cometary tail could cause the same affects as a CME, but with the object being only .23 AU away instead of 1 AU away like the sun is.

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We have the Comet discoverer, running a simulation "Numerical integration was carried out by ORSA software using RADAU15-th order integrator" and declaring "brown dwarf instead comet Elenin is debunked."

Definitely pin worthy...
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I believe it will shit golden eggs down upon us, some with fairies inside.

But let them hit the ground first because when they enter the atmosphere, they will be too hot to catch and many many try to catch the eggs, and will be burned. No, let the golden eggs rest on the ground and cool before retrieving them.

Yes, Elenin will produce the greatest Easter Egg Hunt the world has ever seen. And afterwards there will be Tinkerbells all over the world, as some of them hatch and produce tiny little fairies in wickedly short one piece garments. It will be a different world, a funner world.
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I believe it will shit golden eggs down upon us, some with fairies inside.

But let them hit the ground first because when they enter the atmosphere, they will be too hot to catch and many many try to catch the eggs, and will be burned. No, let the golden eggs rest on the ground and cool before retrieving them.

Yes, Elenin will produce the greatest Easter Egg Hunt the world has ever seen. And afterwards there will be Tinkerbells all over the world, as some of them hatch and produce tiny little fairies in wickedly short one piece garments. It will be a different world, a funner world.
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The trick here is choosing a mass of .05 that of the sun, which is way too high for a brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have an upper limit mass of 75-80 x Jupiter--orders of magnitude less than .05 the sun. Jupiter's mass is less than one one thousanth of the sun. .05 is five percent of the sun. What you're getting with this model from OP is pure classic misdirection. Brown dwarfs are low mass objects. 5% solar mass is ridiculous.
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The trick here is choosing a mass of .05 that of the sun, which is way too high for a brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have an upper limit mass of 75-80 x Jupiter--orders of magnitude less than .05 the sun. Jupiter's mass is less than one one thousanth of the sun. .05 is five percent of the sun. What you're getting with this model from OP is pure classic misdirection. Brown dwarfs are low mass objects. 5% solar mass is ridiculous.
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You must be some experienced astronomer, which comet has your name on it?

Leonid Elenin is fielding questions on his board, you might read this one;
spaceobs
Mass limits for brown dwarf around 0.01-0.08 Solar mass. I used near average value.
If we change mass in 5 times to 0.01, we still see serious changes in the planetary orbits.

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The trick here is choosing a mass of .05 that of the sun, which is way too high for a brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have an upper limit mass of 75-80 x Jupiter--orders of magnitude less than .05 the sun. Jupiter's mass is less than one one thousanth of the sun. .05 is five percent of the sun. What you're getting with this model from OP is pure classic misdirection. Brown dwarfs are low mass objects. 5% solar mass is ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278002

You must be some experienced astronomer, which comet has your name on it?

Leonid Elenin is fielding questions on his board, you might read this one;
spaceobs
Mass limits for brown dwarf around 0.01-0.08 Solar mass. I used near average value.
If we change mass in 5 times to 0.01, we still see serious changes in the planetary orbits.
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Leonid is not accurate/is intentionally lying. You would need to change the mass to .008 as an upper limit though actual mass could be as low as .002 for a brown dwarf. And I don't want to hear claims, I want to see evidence. Look up brown dwarfs. Do a little research yourself and learn to discern. Attacking me reveals you are a shill and has no impact on the truth. Time will reveal all. Good luck! Hope they pay you well to sell your soul.
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The trick here is choosing a mass of .05 that of the sun, which is way too high for a brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have an upper limit mass of 75-80 x Jupiter--orders of magnitude less than .05 the sun. Jupiter's mass is less than one one thousanth of the sun. .05 is five percent of the sun. What you're getting with this model from OP is pure classic misdirection. Brown dwarfs are low mass objects. 5% solar mass is ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278002

You must be some experienced astronomer, which comet has your name on it?

Leonid Elenin is fielding questions on his board, you might read this one;
spaceobs
Mass limits for brown dwarf around 0.01-0.08 Solar mass. I used near average value.
If we change mass in 5 times to 0.01, we still see serious changes in the planetary orbits.
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Leonid is not accurate/is intentionally lying. You would need to change the mass to .008 as an upper limit though actual mass could be as low as .002 for a brown dwarf. And I don't want to hear claims, I want to see evidence. Look up brown dwarfs. Do a little research yourself and learn to discern. Attacking me reveals you are a shill and has no impact on the truth. Time will reveal all. Good luck! Hope they pay you well to sell your soul.
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I have done research, as have many others including Leonid Elenin. You are the one that started with the attacks of 'mis-direction' and being 'ridiculous'. Now you claim I'm attacking you after pointing out that you are wrong.

Then you fall back on the only defense for someone proven wrong, by crying shill and claiming only you and yours know the 'truth'.
Classic.
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The trick here is choosing a mass of .05 that of the sun, which is way too high for a brown dwarf. Brown dwarfs have an upper limit mass of 75-80 x Jupiter--orders of magnitude less than .05 the sun. Jupiter's mass is less than one one thousanth of the sun. .05 is five percent of the sun. What you're getting with this model from OP is pure classic misdirection. Brown dwarfs are low mass objects. 5% solar mass is ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278002

You must be some experienced astronomer, which comet has your name on it?

Leonid Elenin is fielding questions on his board, you might read this one;
spaceobs
Mass limits for brown dwarf around 0.01-0.08 Solar mass. I used near average value.
If we change mass in 5 times to 0.01, we still see serious changes in the planetary orbits.
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Leonid is not accurate/is intentionally lying. You would need to change the mass to .008 as an upper limit though actual mass could be as low as .002 for a brown dwarf. And I don't want to hear claims, I want to see evidence. Look up brown dwarfs. Do a little research yourself and learn to discern. Attacking me reveals you are a shill and has no impact on the truth. Time will reveal all. Good luck! Hope they pay you well to sell your soul.
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O of course atacking you means SHILL. Shut the fuck up you dont know jack shit you doom and gloom fucking retard.
I hope elenin nibiru wormwood whatever the fuck does come and fly's straight up your asshole and explode's! SHILL SHILL SHILL Moron
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ok so lets say that elenin is merely a comet...


so WHAT is perturning the solar system and the sun and other planets then?

gamma rays, random star gone supernova? what?

something... now tell me what.

make a video about THAT


oh wait... let me find a Sickscent thread...he knows

and this topic was already posted and discussed yesterday by Astronut in great detail and length
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And you seriously haven't noticed how the sun sets in the northwest in stead of the southwest now? Or that the moon appears to have tilted about 130 degrees from our perspective. And is it curious that there's been no mention of this by the press.
"Why heck, if it were true it'd be on the dern tv!"
Let me ask you a question. If saturn's orbit were out of phase, how would you know other than taking NASA's word for it? You may have noticed how bright it became a few months back.
Here's another question for you. What are the odds a guy that discovers this "comet" has a name that translates roughly into "Area of sky where comets originate Extinction level event Sumerian princess". You have been fished in.
Remember, when given a choice between a government bs and your own lying eyes, believe your own lying eyes.
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I've been saying this since February. Comet Elenin is a regular comet.

All regular comets are being affected by the electrodynamic atmosphere of the sun also known as the Heliosphere.

The intensity of the cometary discharge SHOULD be proportional to the duration of its Orbital Period.

Comet's do not affect the solar system by their mass. They affect the solar system via interaction with the entire plasma environment of the heliosphere, which extends beyond the orbits of any planets in our solar system. You could say our entire solar system is encapsulated in a bubble of plasma called the heliosphere. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Comets interact on an electrical basis, not on gravity alone. You won't see Comet Elenin pulling along debris with it.

As Comet Elenin approaches the only thing that we should be really worrying about is an encounter with it's Cometary Tail. The longest measured cometary tail was comet Hyakutake with a tail length of over 500 million kilometers.

Comet Elenin will be 0.23 AU from Earth at it's minimum orbit, which is only 34 million kilometers from Earth to the Comet.

Even a cometary tail 1/5th the length of Comet Hyakutake will engulf earth and the moon.

What can a cometary tail do? We're not entirely sure, but it's made up of charged particles, just like a Coronal Mass Ejection.

An encounter with a cometary tail could cause the same affects as a CME, but with the object being only .23 AU away instead of 1 AU away like the sun is.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hi Save-

I love your insightful threads and posts!

Do you think that these charged particles could be further exasperated by the "fluff" cloud that is also effecting the heliosphere?
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ok so lets say that elenin is merely a comet...

so WHAT is perturning the solar system and the sun and other planets then?

gamma rays, random star gone supernova? what?

something... now tell me what.

make a video about THAT

oh wait... let me find a Sickscent thread...he knows

and this topic was already posted and discussed yesterday by Astronut in great detail and length
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1392303

Astronut is not the discoverer of the comet. The fact that Leonid Elenin made his own presentation is significant.

What 'perturning' are you referring to? The Saturn storm? It has already been noted that the last time there was a major storm on Saturn was 1990. Back then, as now, Jupiter & Saturn were in opposition. What makes you think that any other 'perturning' must be caused by an invisible object? One Astrophysicist has postulated that Hale-Bopp was responsible for perturbing the sun, lengthening it's cycle and causing it to heat the system, sounds more reasonable than some unseen, undetectable object.

On the other hand, why do you think what's going on isn't normal? Do you know the system's history well enough to say it isn't normal?

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And you seriously haven't noticed how the sun sets in the northwest in stead of the southwest now? Or that the moon appears to have tilted about 130 degrees from our perspective. And is it curious that there's been no mention of this by the press.
"Why heck, if it were true it'd be on the dern tv!"
Let me ask you a question. If saturn's orbit were out of phase, how would you know other than taking NASA's word for it? You may have noticed how bright it became a few months back.
Here's another question for you. What are the odds a guy that discovers this "comet" has a name that translates roughly into "Area of sky where comets originate Extinction level event Sumerian princess". You have been fished in.
Remember, when given a choice between a government bs and your own lying eyes, believe your own lying eyes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1268825

Do you really think NASA has a monopoly on the solar system, that only they are capable of plotting Saturn's orbit?

Please note how the sun has always changed locations in the sky, it's called seasons;



Please note how the Moon 'flips' on meridian passage. EVERYTHING 'flips' after reaching it's highest point in the sky, they always have. If you take a picture after the Moon rises, then one as it sets, it will be upside down. There is nothing strange about that.




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So maybe it isn't technically a brown dwarf. But the timing of the Chilean and Japanese quakes with Elenin alignment is too coincidental to ignore. I apologize for my contribution to the mudslinging. I just have very little faith in what TPTB tell us about anything. I think skepticism is entirely appropriate. Give or take a decimal point and ragardless of the definition of a brown dwarf-- our planet is experiencing some wicked catastrophes that can't be explained away as irrelavant or unreal.
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What if we replace comet Elenin by brown dwarf?
[link to spaceobs.org]

"What if we replace comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) by brown dwarf with mass about 0.05 of Solar mass? This video demonstrate time interval from 2000 to 2020 years. As you can see, dramatic changes in the orbit of Saturn would have started 3 years ago. But at this time all planets are on it’s nominal orbits. I think myth about “brown dwarf instead comet Elenin” is debunked. You can see that by yourself..."



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Now I wonder if Leonid Elenin has any connection with Astronut, 'cos definitely it's no coincidence that he released this video few days after Astronut had released his own simulation of replacing the comet by a brown dwarf:




Thread: If Elenin were a Brown Dwarf, Earth Would be EJECTED FROM ITS ORBIT During Elenin's Perigee!

They did it in different software, we can see that. Elenin doesn't explain what program he used, but Astronut used Universe Sandbox.

Maybe they are in contact with each other, maybe Leonid Elenin is a GLPer...

And before people jumping to say they are the same, I say I doubt it. I've contacted Leonid Elenin before and he expresses himself quite differently from Astronut.
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i dont think people think that elenin IS a brown dwarf. I think that the theory is that there is a brown dwarf farther away and that elenin is some type of mass that is in orbit around the dwarf. Obviously that is just a theory.
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So maybe it isn't technically a brown dwarf. But the timing of the Chilean and Japanese quakes with Elenin alignment is too coincidental to ignore. I apologize for my contribution to the mudslinging. I just have very little faith in what TPTB tell us about anything. I think skepticism is entirely appropriate. Give or take a decimal point and ragardless of the definition of a brown dwarf-- our planet is experiencing some wicked catastrophes that can't be explained away as irrelavant or unreal.
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Dude, do some research. All major EQs of 2011, since March, are fully synchronized with the orbital path of NASA/USAF drone X-37B. I've posted dozens of threads with graphic analysis, flight history and EQs timeline.

When you people are gonna grasp that MILITARY TECHNOLOGY is creating EQs and even other environment disasters, on this planet???
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Thread: Do You think Comet Elenin imposes danger to earth?(POLL)

vote on the pole if you think elen with cause damamge to earth!

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Now I wonder if Leonid Elenin has any connection with Astronut, 'cos definitely it's no coincidence that he released this video few days after Astronut had released his own simulation of replacing the comet by a brown dwarf:



shhh...
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i dont think people think that elenin IS a brown dwarf. I think that the theory is that there is a brown dwarf farther away and that elenin is some type of mass that is in orbit around the dwarf. Obviously that is just a theory.
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Where have you been in the last months??? Internet is plenty of discussions, threads and videos implying that the comet ELENIN is actually a brown dwarf or the Sumerian NIBIRU. Actually there was a massive wave of disinfo and propaganda over this subject, to largely spread this psy-op that this comet is a brown dwarf.
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So maybe it isn't technically a brown dwarf. But the timing of the Chilean and Japanese quakes with Elenin alignment is too coincidental to ignore. I apologize for my contribution to the mudslinging. I just have very little faith in what TPTB tell us about anything. I think skepticism is entirely appropriate. Give or take a decimal point and ragardless of the definition of a brown dwarf-- our planet is experiencing some wicked catastrophes that can't be explained away as irrelavant or unreal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278002

There were other alignments those days besides Elenin. The Chilean EQ in particular had a large number of astronomical events that day.


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What if we replace comet Elenin by brown dwarf?
[link to spaceobs.org]

"What if we replace comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) by brown dwarf with mass about 0.05 of Solar mass? This video demonstrate time interval from 2000 to 2020 years. As you can see, dramatic changes in the orbit of Saturn would have started 3 years ago. But at this time all planets are on it’s nominal orbits. I think myth about “brown dwarf instead comet Elenin” is debunked. You can see that by yourself..."
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Now I wonder if Leonid Elenin has any connection with Astronut, 'cos definitely it's no coincidence that he released this video few days after Astronut had released his own simulation of replacing the comet by a brown dwarf:
Thread: If Elenin were a Brown Dwarf, Earth Would be EJECTED FROM ITS ORBIT During Elenin's Perigee!

They did it in different software, we can see that. Elenin doesn't explain what program he used, but Astronut used Universe Sandbox....
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien

It's in his post, at the bottom - [link to spaceobs.org]

I even mentioned it near the top of this page.
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So maybe it isn't technically a brown dwarf. But the timing of the Chilean and Japanese quakes with Elenin alignment is too coincidental to ignore. I apologize for my contribution to the mudslinging. I just have very little faith in what TPTB tell us about anything. I think skepticism is entirely appropriate. Give or take a decimal point and ragardless of the definition of a brown dwarf-- our planet is experiencing some wicked catastrophes that can't be explained away as irrelavant or unreal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278002

There were other alignments those days besides Elenin. The Chilean EQ in particular had a large number of astronomical events that day.



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What you're telling me is that there are too many variables to determine whether or not Elenin specifically is affecting our planet, but that we can be confident, regardless, that Elenin is not a brown dwarf. Big whoop. Planetary catastrophe may carry on.
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This whole thread feels shilly. Something has changed on planet earth. They think they can distract us from tornadoes tsunamis radiation police state economic collapse. Arrogant bastards.
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The thing that I think puts earth at risk is when the alignment on Sept 16th the Sun might eject a CME or solar flare so big it knocks out the global power grid.





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