What the bible belt scholars won't teach you about "antichrist"

she's pretty popular..lol

They romanized him.

they named him jeZeus
they named him "dios" (spanish for zeus)
they took away HIS sabbath (constantine)
they seperated he from the Torah...by putting a great divide between he and the torah...


his name is Yahuwshua (Joshua)
he is the son of Yahuwah (YHWH)
he wore tzitzit (fringes) on his garments
he didn't eat pork...


would you be offended if I called you are your wife "biff?"

Yeah, I don't really get all that? Surely she was blessed.

Maybe this is the Spirit you are speaking of OP. I am unfamiliar with this having not been around these teachings.

peace,

Well I am a gentile. I am sure my name is different in Hebrew. Both are beautiful to me (Yeshua or Jesus).

I am no one important, so no, I would not mind what you call me. But you can call me Jay. It is my name even though 'J' does not exist. lol!

But I have read he is known by many names;

He is The 'I AM'
He is The Almighty
He is Abba, Father

From what I read, He goes by many names. But it is He who calls unto his sheep and his sheep hear his voice and follow him and he gives them eternal life. Wonderful!

Honestly, I suspect his name is too holy to utter by sinful mens lips. Most folks know who I speak of when I say Jesus Christ. And I am convinced The Father knows the heart and mind. And I am convinced the good news is being spoken throughout the world.

peace,

So I totally get where you're going with the ac thing and it's a great theory, one of the best I've heard.
But I'm a bit lost after that.
Are you saying jesus was not the true messiah?
Also are you saying what we are taught biblicaly kjv is wrong and we are following the wrong messiah?

jesus was not the messiah

now don't leave hear me out...


his name is Yahuwshua

YAH = I AM
YAHU = I AM HE WHO
SHUA = Delivers...



Exo 23:20 “See, I am sending a Messenger before you to guard you in the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared.
Exo 23:21 “Be on guard before Him and obey His voice. Do not rebel against Him, for He is not going to pardon your transgression, for My Name is in Him.

He was born to Miriam
From the tribe of YAHUDAH (Judah)

In his very words he said:


Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets.1 I did not come to destroy but to complete.

Mat 5:18 “For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done


I ask you brother has heaven and earth passed away yet?

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I have no intention of not listening to your message.
I have many questions concerning all the biblical things I was brought up on and doubts.
Whether or not I believed what you were saying would not keep me from not listening to you.
I believe we all should keep an open mind and question what we have been taught.
I do not understand why most christians won't question things, afterall your very soul is supposedly on line so I'd rather be 100% and ask all the questions I could before making up my mind on one belief or another.

Well Glory be to 'I AM HE WHO DELIVERS' for his great gift.


When I read the scriptures, Jesus Christ is 'I AM HE WHO DELIVERS'.

But regarding your first comment - it just seems a bit 'sacred name movement' to me. But Who am I to judge. My apologies if that offends you.

I perceive Faith, Hope and Love to be better gifts. None of these require any translations.

Have a nice evening OP.

The NAME does matter!!! Please see below from a conversation with another seeker of Truth.

xxxxxxx, this question opens a can or worms, but I will try to share what I know. The true Name is given to us in the Hebrew language, and it is very similar to our Fathers Name, both Names begin with the same three vowels..."yud" = 'y', in English, "hay" = 'h', in English, "waw" = the 'oo' sound. These Hebrew symbols are then transliterated, (not translated), into English.

The English letters used to represent the four vowels are YHWH. However, the English transliteration of YHWH would be Yahuah, or Yahuwah, or Yahueh, depending on how the person doing the transliterating understands the Hebrew language.

The English letters used to represent haMashiach are YHWSHWA, or they are transliterated as Yahushua, or many variations of that spelling.

Yeshua, is a chaldean name, not a Hebrew name, it only means, 'will save'.

Yahuwah means: Yah, he was, He is, He will always be the breath of life.

Yahushua means: Yah, he was, He is, He will always be salvation.

Yahshua, simply means Yah saves.

By using the vowel, 'waw' and the 'u' or 'oo' sound His Name has much more meaning, in that He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow!

Sorry for the offence. I am not here to argue of debate this matter. Just sort of seems to have gone there. I will take my leave and allow you all to persist on in your doctrines.

I see Jesus referred to him as 'My Father' and he taught us to pray also using 'Our Father'.

Now who am I to tell another how to worship. I say worship The Father however you best commune with him. I am looking for unity in the bonds of peace.

Blessing and peace to you.

Bravo! Well done.

I even like your avatar name "PalmOfDeborah".

Good ol' Deborah..

what is the best way to discredit a movement? to name them as a fringe movement...


Just like those who try to uncover the true culprits of 911...they are called "911 truthers" and the baby is tossed out with the bath water....

People who want to find out the truth of the obama birth certificate they are called "birthers" and the baby is thrown out with the bathwater...

So you say that my wanting to call the son of YAH by his true name points to "sacred name movement" shows that effectiveness of lying spirits to try to hide the truth...

it really doesn't offend me I just don't understand why you would go after a name that is a documented tribute to zeus...

look at the 1611 KJV
[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]


they even named ELISHUA (Elisha) eliZEUS = Zeus is my mighty one


here is the standard KJV
Luk 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.


"SEUS"

From the Catholic Encyclopdia
"The word Jesus is the Latin form of the Greek Iesous"


so to get the name of the man you believe in you have to go from hebrew, to greek to latin to english...

you ask yourself why...


what is the harm in trying to call him by his real name?

I don't see any of this doing anything for anyone. I just don't see anyone being influenced by this unless they are already of a similar mindset.

It's time to go back to basics. None of this will help anyone be more or less prepared for the return as it will occur during spiritual midnight while both the foolish and the wise are ASLEEP... The only thing we need to be worried about is keeping oil in our lamps... Where is the oil in all of this? Where is the rebuke? Where is the call to repentance of sin?

It is not the Son who delivers, but the Father. The Son came not to do his own will, but the will of the Father...and was submissive to the Father's will...even unto death on the tree/stake. The Son did not seek esteem for himself, but gave all esteem to the Father alone.

YHWH is he who delivers...Yahuwshua was the method by which deliverance came...like Moshe from Egypt...and like Yahuwshua ben Nun leading them into the promised land. Both Moshe and Yahuwshua ben Nun followed YHWHs presence and the Hebrews followed these men who were following the presence.

Faith is an action verb...Emunah...without action, the belief means no thing...the acting upon belief is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things unseen.

Hope comes from Tikveh and Mikveh...both associated with a cord or tie that binds us...

And Love here should read Charity, which comes from Tzedikah, which can be translated as righteousness. This has to do with being straight and upright.

So, if our Hope/Tikveh or Mikveh/cord is Love/Tzedak/straight, our Faith/Emunah will be evident through our actions...or if our Faith/Emunah/actions are Love/Tzedak/straight, our Hope/Tikveh or Mikveh will be sure.

Make sense?

You did not offend me and I hope you do not leave.

Our Father is a title, not a name.

There is unity to be found...if you will also choose not to be offended by discussion.

I see no harm to a man who is sealed by The Holy Spirit. None whatsoever.

Christianity is/has and always will be a fringe movement. Jesus spoke of this when he said many are called but few are chosen.

Lots of wolves in and among the sheep. Regardless of translation.

IMHO, It is The Spirit which is the seal and The Spirit is life everlasting. The Spirit is given By The Father to whomever he will and the Spirit even utters things which man cannot understand and makes intercession for man.

Faith, hope and love to you neighbor.

peace,

"he"and"him" referring to the "little horn" (Dn7) that became a "beast" or "kingdom", the Roman Empire.

The anti Christ is not a man.

What you are teaching is typical Scofield Futurism or Christian-Zionism. (Jesuit lies)

[link to www.lmn.org]

We are calling to repentance (turning the current coarse)

to proclaim the name of Yahuwshua and to follow his Torah just like the prophets of old...

if you can not see this...then seek the spirit of Elohim...

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Yes, it makes sense.

I also read, I and My Father are one.

IMHO, Jesus is the arm of The LORD spoken of in Isaiah.

peace,

YAHUWAH bless you....sounds like your OK then...there's nothing I can say to change that....be well..

The name issue:


And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Using the Greek Lexicon it doesn't EXACTLY limit this word for 'name' as a proper noun, it is also defined as title and attributes...

Blessing to you too.

Perhaps you have a ministry which I am simply not familiar with. LORD knows.

I know this much, if God be for you who can be against you.

peace,

Blessings to you as well ...

Thank you for this.

I was speaking to someone some time ago and an interesting concept was brought up. The fact that just like today's societies the Israelites had distinguishable dialects. The difference between the Northern and Southern kingdoms was quite noticeable.

I don't know if this would have an impact on the vowel sounds in an individuals name but the possibility could be there.

You are welcome. Please continue in the conversation and/or email me, if you would like to discuss further. My email addy is in my signature below.

Deb

Peace to you...

So if i met you on the street you would be dressed accordingly, you eat accordingly, drink accordingly, sacrifice accordingly? Are you yourself Jewish by blood?

...If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him and make our abode with him.,

You already know that i'm a lover of the OT, especially the prophets, I'm a lover of the Jewish rites and traditions, hell, my mom just returned from Jerusalem today and I may move my own family there some time in the future...

All I know is that He (Messiah) broke the rules of the Torah, discouraged religious rigidity, only mentioned a couple of the commandments, etc...

As prophesied by Isaiah and attributed to the Messiahs first coming:

Every valley (basic and fundamental doctrine) shall be exalted (shown to be the most important), and every mountain and hill (mysterious/occult high-doctrine) shall be made low (less important): and the crooked (distorted doctrine) the shall be made straight (corrected), and the rough places (misunderstood doctrines) plain (easy to understand).

I think this eschatology nonsense has gone too far in my own life, i've spent too much time becoming familiar with all the various doctrines when I should just be sticking to the fundamentals rather than occult doctrines...

Marian apparitions

"We would follow the children and kneel in the middle of the field. Lucia would raise her hands and say, 'You bade me come here, what do you wish of me?' And then could be heard a buzzing that seemed to be that of a bee. I took care to discern whether it was the Lady speaking." - Fatima witness Maria Carreira, quoted in Heavenly Lights.

"I heard a sound, a din, such as a great fly makes inside an empty water pot." - Manuel Marto, Fatima witness and father of Jacinta and Francisco.

"Mr Manuel Marto explained to us that, during the entire duration of the appearance, those present heard an indefinable sound, like that which is heard next to a hive, but altogether more harmonious, even though words were not heard." - Italian priest Humberto Pasquale, investigator of the Fatima event.

"On July 13, I was at Cova da Iria. She [Lucia] knelt.... While Lucia was listening to a response, it seemed there was a buzzing sound like that of a cicada." - Fatima witness Antonio Baptista.

[link to galatiansfour.blogspot.com]

... More like locust ready to devour any green thing HaShem has planeted in their hearts

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OP, you are one twisted puppy. I have prayed for you. I hope to meet you face to face one day.

Dan 11:44 “Then reports from the east and the north shall disturb him, and he shall go out with great wrath to destroy and put many under the ban,


Rev 16:13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits, as frogs,
Rev 16:14 for they are spirits of demons, doing signs, which go out to the sovereigns of the entire world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of YHWH the Almighty.



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