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Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont they sever the vagus nerve sometimes for therapeutic reasons? I dont see why that could kill you. My vagus nerve gets agitated sometimes due to acid reflux and witll throw me into PVCs. My heart is going skip skip skip beat beat beat skip skip. Last Edited by Eyeseeall on 01/28/2011 04:16 PM "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
moondust
User ID: 1133894 United States 01/28/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | vasovagal syncope, in and of itself, is not deadly. "But don't you think it's better for a girl to be preoccupied with sex than occupied?" -The Moon Is Blue(1953) “Ninety-nine percent of who you are is invisible and untouchable.” ~Richard Buckminster Fuller "Does koala bear poop smell like cough drops?" ~Tom Robbins (Jitterbug Perfume) [link to www.mpp.org] medpot :sleepz: ~**Ron Paul 2012**~ |
Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | vasovagal syncope, in and of itself, is not deadly. Quoting: moondustRight the heart is the main thing doing the beating. The vagus nerve just regulates the beat below 100 bpm. It can't kill you. Last Edited by Eyeseeall on 01/28/2011 04:18 PM "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1219225 Denmark 01/28/2011 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vagus nerve controls everything in the chest/lung/abdominal area. If it snaps, you're through. [link to wiki.answers.com] |
moondust
User ID: 1133894 United States 01/28/2011 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "But don't you think it's better for a girl to be preoccupied with sex than occupied?" -The Moon Is Blue(1953) “Ninety-nine percent of who you are is invisible and untouchable.” ~Richard Buckminster Fuller "Does koala bear poop smell like cough drops?" ~Tom Robbins (Jitterbug Perfume) [link to www.mpp.org] medpot :sleepz: ~**Ron Paul 2012**~ |
Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vagus nerve controls everything in the chest/lung/abdominal area. If it snaps, you're through. Quoting: Malla[link to wiki.answers.com] The most immediate effect would be an increase in heart rate. In addition, regulation of heart rate, contractile state, and conduction of electrical impulses through the heart would be impaired. The reason for the observed effects are that the vagus nerve carries important information to the heart from a part of the central nervous system called the parasympathetic nervous system. The parasympathetic nervous system is often considered the "rest and digest" system. It decreases heart rate, decreases how strongly the heart contracts with each beat, and decreases the rate at which electrical impulses are conducted through the heart. This is in contrast to the effects of the sympathetic nervous system on the heart; the sympathetic nervous system raises heart rate, force of contraction, and rate of electrical conduction in the heart. A normal heart does not require information from the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems in order to beat. The heart has an intrinsic pacemaker that allows it to generate heart beats on its own. The heart's pacemaker generates a pace at a rate of about 100 cycles per second, which means that if the heart was to take matters into its own hands (ie, have no innervation), then it would beat at about 100 beats per minute (bpm). If that's the case, then why do normal adult hearts beat around 70 beats per minute and not 100? As was hinted at above, normal hearts are innervated by the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. And both act on the heart at the same time. While you might think that the systems would cancel each other out, it turns out that the heart receives more sympathetic stimulation than parasympathetic stimulation at rest. The result is that the heart is effectively told to reduce the heart rate from the normal 100 bpm to something closer to 70 bpm. Thus if you take a normal heart at rest that's innervated by both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems, and then sever the vagus nerve, you lose the parasympathetic input to the heart, while leaving the sympathetic input intact. The result is that the resting heart rate increases, to something closer to 100 bpm. Read more: [link to wiki.answers.com] You will live. Last Edited by Eyeseeall on 01/28/2011 04:20 PM "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1236179 United States 01/28/2011 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every person is "good" and "bad". You can't have one without the other. It's the nature of duality. And if you think you're just a "good" person, you're deluding yourself somewhere. "Good" and "bad" people mix everywhere all the time - inside and out. :) The majority of the most beautiful things in history happened as a result of someone being "bad." How could God or anyone else look at ALL of it (and us) as less than magnificent because of that? How could any one person be "damned" because of an action that probably led to a magnificently touching reaction somewhere? I wish you health and happiness, OP. Sending love your way. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1219225 Denmark 01/28/2011 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every person is "good" and "bad". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1236179You can't have one without the other. It's the nature of duality. And if you think you're just a "good" person, you're deluding yourself somewhere. "Good" and "bad" people mix everywhere all the time - inside and out. :) The majority of the most beautiful things in history happened as a result of someone being "bad." How could God or anyone else look at ALL of it (and us) as less than magnificent because of that? How could any one person be "damned" because of an action that probably led to a magnificently touching reaction somewhere? I wish you health and happiness, OP. Sending love your way. Dont get me wrong, it was a message and it wasnt related to me in a sense that I am the good person and others are bad, it was an illustration:) I did not mean to sound prude. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1219225 Denmark 01/28/2011 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vagus nerve controls everything in the chest/lung/abdominal area. If it snaps, you're through. Quoting: Malla[link to wiki.answers.com] The most immediate effect would be an increase in heart rate. In addition, regulation of heart rate, contractile state, and conduction of electrical impulses through the heart would be impaired. The reason for the observed effects are that the vagus nerve carries important information to the heart from a part of the central nervous system called the parasympathetic nervous system. The parasympathetic nervous system is often considered the "rest and digest" system. It decreases heart rate, decreases how strongly the heart contracts with each beat, and decreases the rate at which electrical impulses are conducted through the heart. This is in contrast to the effects of the sympathetic nervous system on the heart; the sympathetic nervous system raises heart rate, force of contraction, and rate of electrical conduction in the heart. A normal heart does not require information from the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems in order to beat. The heart has an intrinsic pacemaker that allows it to generate heart beats on its own. The heart's pacemaker generates a pace at a rate of about 100 cycles per second, which means that if the heart was to take matters into its own hands (ie, have no innervation), then it would beat at about 100 beats per minute (bpm). If that's the case, then why do normal adult hearts beat around 70 beats per minute and not 100? As was hinted at above, normal hearts are innervated by the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. And both act on the heart at the same time. While you might think that the systems would cancel each other out, it turns out that the heart receives more sympathetic stimulation than parasympathetic stimulation at rest. The result is that the heart is effectively told to reduce the heart rate from the normal 100 bpm to something closer to 70 bpm. Thus if you take a normal heart at rest that's innervated by both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems, and then sever the vagus nerve, you lose the parasympathetic input to the heart, while leaving the sympathetic input intact. The result is that the resting heart rate increases, to something closer to 100 bpm. Read more: [link to wiki.answers.com] You will live. So you are basically saying here, that even if my vagus nerve snaps, the body will still make the heart beat, due to the symetric input? IM NOT GONNA DIE!!!!! :) Thank you! Im soooo releaved... i thought i was gonna die:( |
Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vagus nerve controls everything in the chest/lung/abdominal area. If it snaps, you're through. Quoting: Malla[link to wiki.answers.com] The most immediate effect would be an increase in heart rate. In addition, regulation of heart rate, contractile state, and conduction of electrical impulses through the heart would be impaired. The reason for the observed effects are that the vagus nerve carries important information to the heart from a part of the central nervous system called the parasympathetic nervous system. The parasympathetic nervous system is often considered the "rest and digest" system. It decreases heart rate, decreases how strongly the heart contracts with each beat, and decreases the rate at which electrical impulses are conducted through the heart. This is in contrast to the effects of the sympathetic nervous system on the heart; the sympathetic nervous system raises heart rate, force of contraction, and rate of electrical conduction in the heart. A normal heart does not require information from the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems in order to beat. The heart has an intrinsic pacemaker that allows it to generate heart beats on its own. The heart's pacemaker generates a pace at a rate of about 100 cycles per second, which means that if the heart was to take matters into its own hands (ie, have no innervation), then it would beat at about 100 beats per minute (bpm). If that's the case, then why do normal adult hearts beat around 70 beats per minute and not 100? As was hinted at above, normal hearts are innervated by the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. And both act on the heart at the same time. While you might think that the systems would cancel each other out, it turns out that the heart receives more sympathetic stimulation than parasympathetic stimulation at rest. The result is that the heart is effectively told to reduce the heart rate from the normal 100 bpm to something closer to 70 bpm. Thus if you take a normal heart at rest that's innervated by both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems, and then sever the vagus nerve, you lose the parasympathetic input to the heart, while leaving the sympathetic input intact. The result is that the resting heart rate increases, to something closer to 100 bpm. Read more: [link to wiki.answers.com] You will live. So you are basically saying here, that even if my vagus nerve snaps, the body will still make the heart beat, due to the symetric input? IM NOT GONNA DIE!!!!! :) Thank you! Im soooo releaved... i thought i was gonna die:( It's ok. God bless your heart. It will be ok :). If it does snap, go to the doctor, and they will put you on beta blockers to regulate your heart beat. "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246950 United States 01/28/2011 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont want to admit it to myself, but my vagus nerve is damaged to such a degree, that a wrong turn of the head throws me into unconciousness.` Quoting: MallaI live with the fear of death every day, and I know, that another car accident, a fall or another trauma to my head or neck - can make it snap. And it will be my return ticket home. The last few days have been terrible, I have been in and out of the doctors office - and tonight I am having a Bacardi & Coke and decided to let you know what I dreamed last night. It is true.... you go where you deserve to go according to your actions - when your earth life is over. I was walking down a "road", hearing cries from underneeth, I saw people crying and begging for help, and I really wanted to go down and help them. Then a voice in my head told me: "You cannot help them, my dear - we do not allow good and bad people to be together." Love & Light to you all. Think of 11:11 as a symbol of two door openings. One side is karma complete, the other has work to do. |
Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should go get those meds now, because my heart is not at all doing well because of this. I am having major drops in bloodpreassure and i keep passing out. No wonder i thought i'd die..:/ Quoting: MallaSame here. My acid reflux has really agitated it. If I stand up in the mornings I get dizzy and start to "grey out", and when I am on the toilet (I know to much info) my heart rate goes bazerk. After eating my heart beats and skips, beating very hard and slow. Last Edited by Eyeseeall on 01/28/2011 04:31 PM "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
moondust
User ID: 1133894 United States 01/28/2011 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should go get those meds now, because my heart is not at all doing well because of this. I am having major drops in bloodpreassure and i keep passing out. No wonder i thought i'd die..:/ Quoting: MallaSame here. My acid reflux has really agitated it. If I stand up in the mornings I get dizzy and start to "grey out", and when I am on the toilet (I know to much info) my heart rate goes bazerk. After eating my heart beats and skips, beating very hard and slow. lol. I've passed out on the toilet (especially when I was a kid...from a simple pee). There were times when I couldn't even stand up in the mornings long enough to shower. Very unfun. Up to and including nausea/vomiting/heart palpitations. None of it will kill me though. ^_^ "But don't you think it's better for a girl to be preoccupied with sex than occupied?" -The Moon Is Blue(1953) “Ninety-nine percent of who you are is invisible and untouchable.” ~Richard Buckminster Fuller "Does koala bear poop smell like cough drops?" ~Tom Robbins (Jitterbug Perfume) [link to www.mpp.org] medpot :sleepz: ~**Ron Paul 2012**~ |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1219225 Denmark 01/28/2011 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should go get those meds now, because my heart is not at all doing well because of this. I am having major drops in bloodpreassure and i keep passing out. No wonder i thought i'd die..:/ Quoting: MallaSame here. My acid reflux has really agitated it. If I stand up in the mornings I get dizzy and start to "grey out", and when I am on the toilet (I know to much info) my heart rate goes bazerk. After eating my heart beats and skips, beating very hard and slow. You are talking about acid reflucs, do you have any other problems in your digestive system? curious:) Cus I do. |
Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should go get those meds now, because my heart is not at all doing well because of this. I am having major drops in bloodpreassure and i keep passing out. No wonder i thought i'd die..:/ Quoting: MallaSame here. My acid reflux has really agitated it. If I stand up in the mornings I get dizzy and start to "grey out", and when I am on the toilet (I know to much info) my heart rate goes bazerk. After eating my heart beats and skips, beating very hard and slow. You are talking about acid reflucs, do you have any other problems in your digestive system? curious:) Cus I do. Yes, im almost for certain I have a herniated stomach and MAYBE MAYBE the start of chron's. I'm not sure yet though. I need more tests done, when I get around to it. I figure its not life threatening so I can hold it off until I get more money to pay for the tests. "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should go get those meds now, because my heart is not at all doing well because of this. I am having major drops in bloodpreassure and i keep passing out. No wonder i thought i'd die..:/ Quoting: MallaSame here. My acid reflux has really agitated it. If I stand up in the mornings I get dizzy and start to "grey out", and when I am on the toilet (I know to much info) my heart rate goes bazerk. After eating my heart beats and skips, beating very hard and slow. lol. I've passed out on the toilet (especially when I was a kid...from a simple pee). There were times when I couldn't even stand up in the mornings long enough to shower. Very unfun. Up to and including nausea/vomiting/heart palpitations. None of it will kill me though. ^_^ I have a strange feeling humans aren't meant to sit on the toilet like that and strain. Something about it seems unnatural. "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154424 United States 01/28/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont they sever the vagus nerve sometimes for therapeutic reasons? Quoting: EyeseeallI dont see why that could kill you. My vagus nerve gets agitated sometimes due to acid reflux and witll throw me into PVCs. My heart is going skip skip skip beat beat beat skip skip. |
Eyeseeall
User ID: 1245762 United States 01/28/2011 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont they sever the vagus nerve sometimes for therapeutic reasons? Quoting: EyeseeallI dont see why that could kill you. My vagus nerve gets agitated sometimes due to acid reflux and witll throw me into PVCs. My heart is going skip skip skip beat beat beat skip skip. [link to en.wikipedia.org] They used to at one time. It was called a Vagotomy. once popular as a way of treating and preventing peptic ulcer disease. "What can death take away from me –nothing! What can life give to me – nothing! All the dramas of this world is happening in front of me. Let it happen whatever has to happen, Therefore why worry." Its pronounced Icy All |
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User ID: 1068136 United States 01/28/2011 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont they sever the vagus nerve sometimes for therapeutic reasons? Quoting: EyeseeallI dont see why that could kill you. My vagus nerve gets agitated sometimes due to acid reflux and witll throw me into PVCs. My heart is going skip skip skip beat beat beat skip skip. No offense but that's BULLSHIT! Heh-heh jost joking friend. Seriously you just made me think of something that hadn't occured to me: if your acid reflux can throw you into pvc, maybe that's what is happening when I eat habenaro peppers? It crossed my mind that they might be causing it but I thought it was coicendence. But I'll eat a whole habenro or 2(usually with jalapenos also) with chili, or damn near anything. And I will get that shit. Weird as I bust out into a sweat,eyes water nose runs mouth burns it's uncomfortable but I crave it.... May have solved it. I haven't had any pepper for a couple days and no pvs. |
moondust
User ID: 1133894 United States 01/28/2011 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I should go get those meds now, because my heart is not at all doing well because of this. I am having major drops in bloodpreassure and i keep passing out. No wonder i thought i'd die..:/ Quoting: MallaSame here. My acid reflux has really agitated it. If I stand up in the mornings I get dizzy and start to "grey out", and when I am on the toilet (I know to much info) my heart rate goes bazerk. After eating my heart beats and skips, beating very hard and slow. lol. I've passed out on the toilet (especially when I was a kid...from a simple pee). There were times when I couldn't even stand up in the mornings long enough to shower. Very unfun. Up to and including nausea/vomiting/heart palpitations. None of it will kill me though. ^_^ I have a strange feeling humans aren't meant to sit on the toilet like that and strain. Something about it seems unnatural. Nah, I never had to strain to pee at 8 years old whenever it happened. Just seemed odd when I came to, all clammy. lol I've had issues like collapsing while walking down a very busy stairwell in between school periods (rapid stand up to walk to the other side of campus). Could've been seriously injured if there weren't so many people there to pad my fall. It's not from straining. As has been stated, it's from that silly nerve. :p Nothing too special about it. "But don't you think it's better for a girl to be preoccupied with sex than occupied?" -The Moon Is Blue(1953) “Ninety-nine percent of who you are is invisible and untouchable.” ~Richard Buckminster Fuller "Does koala bear poop smell like cough drops?" ~Tom Robbins (Jitterbug Perfume) [link to www.mpp.org] medpot :sleepz: ~**Ron Paul 2012**~ |