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Is Hillary undergoing Vagus nerve stimulation?

 
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Is Hillary undergoing Vagus nerve stimulation?
I've been seeing a number of reports about a metal object that fell from the leg of Hillary Clinton's pants. I've not actually seen this myself but the reports caused me to consider a possibility. Everyone on GLP has read the speculation that Hillary is suffering seizures and it appears that this will out as more than mere speculation.

A fairly common treatment for seizures is Vagus nerve stimulation. I won't go into a full description of the device used as my knowledge is limited as to the technical aspects. I will explain this much, the device delivers electric pulses to help stave off seizures. There will be pre-programed pulses of stimulation but it can also be triggered by the patient if they feel an episode coming on. In order to trigger this stimulation the patient wears a magnet, usually on the wrist that they pass over the implant.

Now for the sake of argument let's make the leap for a moment and say that Hillary is indeed suffering from seizures. She certainly could not wear the magnet on her wrist for all to see and question. The next best option would be a pocket where it will be quickly accessible. If a person carries the trigger in a pocket and feels an episode coming on it would not be unlikely that in a panic they would fumble the device, dropping it. Another option would be for someone else to carry the trigger for her while in public. Someone that is always only a second or two away. Well, if the reports are correct she is traveling with a doctor that keeps showing up in videos and pics with some sort of device in his hand. Might that device be a trigger?

As I said before, my knowledge on this procedure and device is limited. What I do have to offer is the experience of a friend of mine. You see, I've made her a number of custom wristbands and belt pouches for her to carry her trigger. She's had the implant for just over a year now and still suffers a few side effects from the surgery and implant. They are minimal now but for at least six months they where quite noticeable.

Here are just a few of the side effects that she dealt with:

Head bobbing and trembling.
Confusion and slurred speech.
Vertigo that caused her to lose balance.
Tremors in her limbs.

Are any of these sounding familiar? Now I'm not saying that Hillary definitely has this implant only that it would sure explain a thing or two. The big question is if she's having seizures what is the cause and how would it affect her ability to perform the job she hopes to hold. If she has this device she should be made ineligible for this office by the confusion alone.

Anyway, just a little something to keep in mind.
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No takers? Okay, maybe the thread is a bit of a reach but you never know.

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Re: Is Hillary undergoing Vagus nerve stimulation?
Interesting.

I wonder if the implant is located where her hand was, in a posterior location. Like cupping her own ass.

Pretty sure the object was something like this--an injector or stimulator. She was obviously having a seizure as her legs splayed out and stiffened up like the burning man.

I wish the SS had dropped her--you can see by their faces they would have loved to.
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You may not be too far off. Very good insight. Thank you.
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Re: Is Hillary undergoing Vagus nerve stimulation?
Interesting.

I wonder if the implant is located where her hand was, in a posterior location. Like cupping her own ass.

Pretty sure the object was something like this--an injector or stimulator. She was obviously having a seizure as her legs splayed out and stiffened up like the burning man.

I wish the SS had dropped her--you can see by their faces they would have loved to.
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Here is some info on the implant and the location of the trigger point:

"The vagus nerve passes through the neck as it travels between the chest and abdomen and the lower part of the brain."

"Holding a special magnet near the implanted device (generator) triggers the device to deliver another burst of stimulation, outside of the programmed intervals. For people with warnings (auras) before their seizures, activating the stimulator with the magnet when the warning occurs may help to stop the seizure."


[link to www.epilepsy.com]

The friend that I spoke of in the OP wears her magnet on her wrist the majority of the time. She simply places her wrist over her chest to trigger the pulses. She will occasionally carry it in a pocket or in one of the belt pouches that I've made for her but that can be dangerous. Once while carrying it in her pocket she dropped it and was unable to stop the attack. The first pouch that I had made for her was fastened with a hook and eye closer. She felt a seizure coming on but fumbled with the closure and didn't get the magnet out quick enough. (I made future ones with velcro) It is very commpn during those pre-seizure moments to have a bit of a panic and loss of coordination.

Although it is unlikely that the trigger would be located in the posterior region it is quite possible that she was carrying the magnet in a pocket or in her handbag and was trying to get to it. From the video it does look like a good possibility that she had a seizure. The jerky movements of her body as she approaches the van and the contraction/release type of movements as the agents lifted her had the look of a seizure.

And yes, I'm betting there are more than a few of those SS agents that would not have had their feelings hurt one bit if she had "accidentally" been dropped! It;s never a good idea to treat those charged with keeping you alive like dirt.
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You may not be too far off. Very good insight. Thank you.
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dirty rotten cunt syndrome
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Well, if that is the case this is one instance that I in no way want to see the medical records of the examination!

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The way that Hillary has her hand positioned in the linked picture is in the same position that would be needed to activate the Vagus Nerve stimulation if she is wearing the magnet on her wrist as most do.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Okay, that link seems hit and miss. You can also see the pic about half way down the page here:

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com]

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Re: Is Hillary undergoing Vagus nerve stimulation?
She needs Vag-nerve stimulation, instead. A common mistake even for medical pros.

Any volunteers here?
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She needs Vag-nerve stimulation, instead. A common mistake even for medical pros.

Any volunteers here?
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Bad, bad AC! Yuck!
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I wonder what would happen inside an MRI machine to someone with this implant?

Yet another reason why she is disqualified.
(as if we needed any more of them)

Imagine a president who could be assassinated with a Pokemon cartoon.
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Very interesting, OP. It sure sounds plausible from all you have explained and described. That pose with her hand on her heart area did seem odd.

And you sound like a great friend! hf
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Vaginal nerve stimulation?


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I wonder what would happen inside an MRI machine to someone with this implant?

Yet another reason why she is disqualified.
(as if we needed any more of them)

Imagine a president who could be assassinated with a Pokemon cartoon.
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I'm pretty sure that an MRI would not be possible. I'll have to ask my friend about that.

Yes, the reasons are certainly adding up! Heck, that would surely be an interesting assassination weapon.
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Very interesting, OP. It sure sounds plausible from all you have explained and described. That pose with her hand on her heart area did seem odd.

And you sound like a great friend! hf
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Thank you for your consideration of the thread and even more so for your kind words. hf
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Interesting consideration. What happens n Vagus stays in Vagus? Your insght may be blown out of the water by the hillarrest thingie. Don't take it personal.
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I've been seeing a number of reports about a metal object that fell from the leg of Hillary Clinton's pants. I've not actually seen this myself but the reports caused me to consider a possibility. Everyone on GLP has read the speculation that Hillary is suffering seizures and it appears that this will out as more than mere speculation.

A fairly common treatment for seizures is Vagus nerve stimulation. I won't go into a full description of the device used as my knowledge is limited as to the technical aspects. I will explain this much, the device delivers electric pulses to help stave off seizures. There will be pre-programed pulses of stimulation but it can also be triggered by the patient if they feel an episode coming on. In order to trigger this stimulation the patient wears a magnet, usually on the wrist that they pass over the implant.

Now for the sake of argument let's make the leap for a moment and say that Hillary is indeed suffering from seizures. She certainly could not wear the magnet on her wrist for all to see and question. The next best option would be a pocket where it will be quickly accessible. If a person carries the trigger in a pocket and feels an episode coming on it would not be unlikely that in a panic they would fumble the device, dropping it. Another option would be for someone else to carry the trigger for her while in public. Someone that is always only a second or two away. Well, if the reports are correct she is traveling with a doctor that keeps showing up in videos and pics with some sort of device in his hand. Might that device be a trigger?

As I said before, my knowledge on this procedure and device is limited. What I do have to offer is the experience of a friend of mine. You see, I've made her a number of custom wristbands and belt pouches for her to carry her trigger. She's had the implant for just over a year now and still suffers a few side effects from the surgery and implant. They are minimal now but for at least six months they where quite noticeable.

Here are just a few of the side effects that she dealt with:

Head bobbing and trembling.
Confusion and slurred speech.
Vertigo that caused her to lose balance.
Tremors in her limbs.

Are any of these sounding familiar? Now I'm not saying that Hillary definitely has this implant only that it would sure explain a thing or two. The big question is if she's having seizures what is the cause and how would it affect her ability to perform the job she hopes to hold. If she has this device she should be made ineligible for this office by the confusion alone.

Anyway, just a little something to keep in mind.
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My son has a VNS implanted and while it could have a metal clip on it his has plastic around the pocket clip. The magnets are large about 2" wide 3" long and 1&1/2" thick. It could been something like a pen that got attached to it and fell but if it was the magnet I would have recognized it immeadately.
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I have a friend who has one. I believe it is on left side but cannot be for certain? But his is implanted just below the clavicle bone at the top of the pectoral muscle. You can see his bulging out of his skin. It is about the size of a ping pong ball but is flat.
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maybe her doctor is stimulating her prostate gland by rectal stimulation with his big girted "member".

sideways wait ! 2 hands in my shoulders ! what in the heck he is proving me with ? says Hillary..

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I have a friend who has one. I believe it is on left side but cannot be for certain? But his is implanted just below the clavicle bone at the top of the pectoral muscle. You can see his bulging out of his skin. It is about the size of a ping pong ball but is flat.
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You are absolutely correct, the doctor was able to " hide" it on my son so unless you know where it is you can't see it. Kid has enough issues without looking diffrent with a bluge in his chest. Although we do call him the first cyborg in the family lol.
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I just remembered that in the Neurologists office I saw an ad for a Parkinson's implant that worked similarly. Maybe the activation device is diffrent?



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I have a friend who has one. I believe it is on left side but cannot be for certain? But his is implanted just below the clavicle bone at the top of the pectoral muscle. You can see his bulging out of his skin. It is about the size of a ping pong ball but is flat.
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You are absolutely correct, the doctor was able to " hide" it on my son so unless you know where it is you can't see it. Kid has enough issues without looking diffrent with a bluge in his chest. Although we do call him the first cyborg in the family lol.
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That is a good thing. Hope that it is helping your son.
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I just remembered that in the Neurologists office I saw an ad for a Parkinson's implant that worked similarly. Maybe the activation device is diffrent?



[link to www.ninds.nih.gov]
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This is interesting.... I haven't heard of this treatment? Makes sense though
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I have a friend who has one. I believe it is on left side but cannot be for certain? But his is implanted just below the clavicle bone at the top of the pectoral muscle. You can see his bulging out of his skin. It is about the size of a ping pong ball but is flat.
 Quoting: F5 Survivor


You are absolutely correct, the doctor was able to " hide" it on my son so unless you know where it is you can't see it. Kid has enough issues without looking diffrent with a bluge in his chest. Although we do call him the first cyborg in the family lol.
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That is a good thing. Hope that it is helping your son.
 Quoting: F5 Survivor


It really does, shortly after implantation he had a 3 hour long seizure had to be put into a chemical coma he was in for 3 days, they told me on the 3rd day if he didn't wake up they held no hope he ever would. I didn't accept that and went right into his room and told him it was time to get up.....good thing my kids are afraid to ignore me lol. We found out it wasn't up to a high enough level, they adjusted it and no major seizures since.
This was 2013.hf
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No takers? Okay, maybe the thread is a bit of a reach but you never know.

Please forgive this one little bump2 before I let the thread retire to page 2 hf
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The metal which fell out her pant leg was determined on GLP to be a a catheter or waste bag clip.

You must have been away a while.

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Re: Is Hillary undergoing Vagus nerve stimulation?
I have several seizure patients with VNS's. When the device kicks on it causes their voice to seize up just like Hillary's during a coughing fit.





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