COMMUNISM = MASSIVE DEATH (ALWAYS)

Because a kid who has his hand in the cookie jar won't take just one cookie. He'll take them all.

Once the government get their hands on one aspect of the economy, they will try and take it all.

So because there are excesses in capitalism in for example Columbia with the contra-revolutionaries then every form of capitalism must be bad?

Your black and white thinking is truly a remarkable showpiece of what being indoctrinated is all about.

You are not answering my question in any meaningful way.

So again how can a nation without a centrally planned economy be considered communistic?

Because social liberalism is the bridge from capitalism to communism.

"The goal of socialism is communism." Lenin

Name me 1 nation that became communistic from being a social liberal state? The only one that even came close was Greece...

Every other nation that ever became communistic did so through a revolution.

Well there's never been a purely communistic country. It's impossible because communism is an unachievable idea. (All political ideas are unachievable to the extent they were meant for).

But, say for argument's sake we have examples of governments. On one hand we can say that modern China is a communistic government. On the other end, we can say that 1807 United States was based with as little government interference as possible (capitalism wasn't really a term back then, it was mercantilism).

So, if those are our two extremes in this argument, social liberalism on this continuum is pulling nations toward communism. It is taking money away from those who work more and giving it to those who work less. It is unionizing labor groups so that the individual is destroyed but instead works for the "good" of a group, and the persons in charge of that group then in turns "screw over" the individuals in that group.

Now, don't get me wrong, neither capitalism nor communism are inherently evil. Humans are the ones who corrupt these forms of governments. And left unchecked capitalism will turn into fascism, whereas social liberalism will turn into communism.

BUT, social liberalism (and communism) works better for countries with a smaller population group made of people with similar ideals. It does not work well with a very large nation made up of every race of which none can agree on any one thing. The best thing for a large country like the U.S. is individualistic form of government - you keep what you earn.

My definition of communism is when your government has eliminated your constitutional rights (as defined here in the U.S.-wonderful and carefully thought out document), stealing your money then imposing taxes and/or controlling publicly owned resources without using profits to fund necessary programs for the people as mutually decided by the people or their elected leaders. Any mixing of corporate interests or controls in governments (abusively) and/or flat out dictatorship like control over the people is certainly Fascist and/or communist, which is all the same in my book.

The U.S. has spent trillions of our money with zero accountability. They could merely be creating computer transactions so that we are in debt to pay all this back to the criminals that hand us our own money. Trillions! How in the hell do you spend trillions for your OWN country's interest...much less without oversight or mutual agreement on the matter. That's not freedom IDIOTS! That's being turned into a debt slave. Most of you probably are leverage to hell and back any way so you don't have any fiscal sense to begin with. Eventually you'll have to pay the piper if they don't kill you off with the toxic soup created there in the Gulf.

People I speak to blindly trust everything these people are doing. They put their jobs before their family's safety. And they use NO LOGIC in trying to assess the risks that lie before them in the immediate month or two. DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB....the ominous sound of what is to come and their intelligence all described in just 4 simple words.