Anybody seen "Media" interviewing the two Cessna Pilots?

and what color was the cloud?

"One would think that the press would have a certain curiosity"

or a certain deceitful agenda

The plane was probably flown by 2 spooks from the CIA.

IMO, an elaborate "fire drill".

The pilot is a 30 year veteran, you can´t convince me he didn´t know where he was. Another distraction and an attempt to MINDFUCK people to rally round Bushturd.

Another plane crossed the line last night.
No evacuations this time, little interest.

Here´s something else that didn´t get much press outside the DC area..

DC police, fire and rescue were intentionally kept away.

This smells... funny.


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May 13, 2005

D.C. in Dark While Plane Was Intercepted

D.C. police officials had no idea that fighter jets and helicopters were being deployed over Washington to intercept an errant plane on Wednesday, even though they had a sergeant in the nation´s homeland security command center, and the ability to monitor the events taking place - at their own headquarters.

At the Homeland Security Operations Center, a command post built after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the D.C. government was relying on a sergeant to keep track of any potential crisis. But it was not until the air scare was nearly over that he got word to police commanders.

At police headquarters, someone had disconnected a phone line that would have provided emergency communications from the Federal Aviation Administration, the officials said.

It was not until he heard fighter jets screaming past his office that D.C. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey had an inkling of the events that had been consuming federal officials for a half-hour. And several more minutes elapsed before Ramsey received official notice and then alerted Mayor Anthony A. Williams.

Although police took responsibility for failing to monitor the FAA, D.C. and federal officials gave conflicting reports yesterday about what the sergeant knew at the homeland security center -- a place designed to speed communication among the many agencies that respond to terror threats.

Ramsey insisted that the sergeant was not told by his federal counterparts what was happening, but federal officials took issue with that account.

The mayor yesterday sought a meeting with Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff to review what D.C. officials called a dangerous delay that prevented the city from mobilizing emergency workers and taking steps to protect the public.

Spokesmen for President Bush and Chertoff yesterday praised the work of the Department of Homeland Security, the FAA, the Pentagon, the U.S. Capitol Police and other agencies that helped divert the plane out of the restricted area and to an airport in Frederick on Wednesday afternoon.

The pilots of the single-engine Cessna, Hayden "Jim" Sheaffer and Troy Martin, were released after officials determined they had become lost while traveling from Pennsylvania to North Carolina and posed no security threat. The FAA is considering sanctions against the men.

"It appears the system worked as it should have, since the appropriate and effective security measures were performed," said Brian Roehrkasse, a spokesman for the Homeland Security Department. "As we do after every single incident, we will review actions of all parties to determine areas where we can collectively improve."

On a day when federal agencies were keeping track, second by second, of a potential attack on the capital, however, the city was out of the loop.

About noon, with the plane approaching, the Capitol Police and the Secret Service were ordering evacuations of the Capitol, the White House and the Supreme Court, sending more than 35,000 people into the streets.

Fighter jets were ready to fire missiles at the Cessna when it came within three miles of the White House. Officials said the incident was the closest the government has ever come to shooting down a civilian plane.

The episode rekindled concerns expressed after the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, when D.C. officials were not consulted about evacuations and road closures. Since then, authorities have staged drills in hopes of improving coordination.

Similar problems occurred in March when Pentagon officials did not consult local health authorities about distributing antibiotics to 900 defense workers during an anthrax scare.

Ramsey and top D.C. police officials said Sgt. Guy Poirier was stationed Wednesday at the Homeland Security Operations Center, along with members of other local, state and federal agencies. He was in a room with law enforcement officials who do not have high-security clearance.

Federal authorities with such clearances, stationed in another room, reported monitoring the actions starting at 11:28 a.m. But Ramsey said that they did not share information with Poirier.

Asked about federal coordination, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the District has a liaison posted to the Department of Homeland Security´s operations center round-the-clock.

"You have a number of personnel, that includes local officials, as well, or representatives of local organizations, like the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department," McClellan said, "and they´re in constant communication" with other command centers.

But Ramsey said Poirier learned about the plane when a Capitol Police intelligence official called him for information about the airspace violation. Capitol Police had learned of the intrusion by monitoring radar and FAA communications at their own high-tech command post, police said.

The Capitol Police official also was having difficulty getting details.

After the telephone call, Poirier scrambled to get information. He then called his boss, Cmdr. Cathy Lanier, on her cell phone at 12:05 p.m., police officials said. By then, the plane had flown within three miles of the White House, and authorities had started evacuations.

Lanier said that she quickly sent a page to alert her superiors. Ramsey, at his desk and unaware of the evacuations, received his page at 12:11 p.m. The page said that a plane had entered restricted airspace and that fighter jets had intercepted it and turned it away from the city, Ramsey and Lanier said.

Ramsey said he then alerted the mayor.

The chief said he is looking into how the other communications breakdown occurred.

Someone in the D.C. police command center -- a high-tech setting where officers monitor daily operations, emergencies and world events -- had disconnected the telephone that is supposed to be continuously tied to the FAA communication system.

The network, connected to a speakerphone in the police command post, carries air traffic control communications when a major incident occurs anywhere in the country.

Officers in the command center also monitor two computer systems that display alerts about emergencies. The system, run by the Homeland Security Department, never issued an alert about the plane.

"It didn´t say anything" about the airplane, Chief Ramsey said.


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[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
content/article/2005/05/12/AR2005051201614.html

No! Will We? Or are they being gagged like Sibel Edmonds?

The Cessna event was staged...


People getting numbed by the terror alert color coded escalations...

So why not stage a Cessna fly over to get people scared and give the MSM the excuse to cover this 24/7?

Bush favorable ratings at an alltime low. The timing of this event is impeccable

Hats off to Rove.

I have to admit he is one intelligent prick!!!!

:dubya:

The Cessna event was staged...


People getting numbed by the terror alert color coded escalations...

So why not stage a Cessna fly over to get people scared and give the MSM the excuse to cover this 24/7?

Bush favorable ratings at an alltime low. The timing of this event is impeccable

Hats off to Rove.

I have to admit he is one intelligent prick!!!!

:dubya:

So let me get this straight: you have no idea what really happened, you are correctly curious why the pilots haven´t been interviewed, but you really don´t know why for sure...so, add a little GLP magic and viola! Simple conjecture becomes absolute truth and another conspiracy theory is born.

People we have just witnessed the primordial transformation from conjecture to theory with nothing irritating like facts to get in the way.

Rock on GLP. Rock on.

Maybe the pilots simply wish to get on with their livers and refused to be interviewed? Honestly, far too much crap passes for "news" these days (Runaway Bride? gimme a fuckin break) and if the people involved simply told CNN et al. to fuck off there wouldn´t be any such fluff on the news...

Why was the line to the FAA disconnected?

Why were the DC police, fire and rescue kept out of the loop?

McClellan contradicts reality in a public statement.

No conspiracy?

You didn´t read the article I posted, did you?

"Maybe the pilots simply wish to get on with their livers..."


Well, you know what they say...

There must be 50 ways to love your liver.

"The pilot is a 30 year veteran"

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no mentions to DC police

no mention of the cloud

all completely organized for the media

something fishy here

What are their names?

I read an alleged interview with the older guy´s wife -- I can´t remember where now but it was MSM. According to her, he´s a flight instructor and the other one is one of his students, much younger. He´s a Republican and loves Bush. He had been planning the trip, from PA to Florida, for some time and she said he had talked about how there were two restricted areas he had to avoid with only a narrow space in between. She said he had said staying clear of the restricted areas was going to be difficult, but that he had figured out a way to do it, and that he had talked about that a lot. She hadn´t spoken to her husband at the time she was interviewed and she didn´t know what had happened to cause him to enter the restricted zone.

No claiming any of this is true, but it´s what I remember reading a couple of weeks ago, subject to whatever errors may have been in the interview and in my remembering it.

This is why I like this place you all

"question Everything".

They just told everybody it was a little cessna 150 causing all the panic. Maybe they don´t want to tell you what it really was causing the panic.

So, the most revealing thing to come from this thread so far is that the power elites of DC (White House, Capitol and Supreme Court - all strongholds of illegitimacy in the form of the Gay Old Party) are to be evacuated at once, while the liason to the actual City of DC (and the poorer people that represents) is kept in the dark, either intentionally or through careless dereliction.

A sign of things to come.

Names, how about some names?

snip>The pilots of the single-engine Cessna, Hayden "Jim" Sheaffer and Troy Martin, were released after officials determined they had become lost while traveling from Pennsylvania to North Carolina and posed no security threat. The FAA is considering sanctions against the men.


Uh, I suggest you actually READ the posts.

The two were flying to an air show in the Carolinas. They were using VFR and the pilot did lose exactly where he was.
Accounts go on to say the pilot more or less froze when the F-16´s and Blawkhawk showed up.
The student pilot then took over the controls and landed the plane.
Or at least that´s the way it´s being told.

Well, so much for this conspriacy. NBC says that
they have an exclusive interview with the student
tomorrow morning. And the claim I saw was that
the student had the controls the whole time.



and always will be