WHY THE LEFT HATES ISRAEL? (Wow! Batflaps are hating this thread!!!)

Please check the thread title ...

Israel - Location : Middle east.






I don't have personal definitions of words - I subscribe to full definitions from the dictionary.
What is so hard to understand? Do you make up your own definitions???





[link to www.zionismontheweb.org]

Here this is the European Union definition:

Working definition: ``Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non­Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.''

In addition, such manifestations could also target the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for ``why things go wrong.'' It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:


Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
•Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective - such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
•Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non­Jews.
•Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
•Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
•Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

Examples of the ways in which antisemitism manifests itself with regard to the state of Israel taking into account the overall context could include:


•Denying the Jewish people their right to self­determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
•Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
•Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
•Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
•Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.




So that is your proof of genocide - Arab groups trying ...

and the UN voting NON BINDING RESOLUTIONS?

Sorry - this is no proof of genocide.




You go to war against Israel - you lose - you lose territory. No proof of Genocide.




Well anyone can reject the 'interpretation' of a 'convention' - If the interpretation is not right - nothing wrong with that.




I'm still waiting for proof of Genocide...

Last Edited by JADR on 02/08/2010 12:10 AM

WRONG!..he thinks more than you do, JADR knows a lot, and you should be thanking him for the free lessons he is teaching here.
He has ANSWERS, FACTS, LINKS.
If you want to open the eyes of others you might need to post great threads like this one.

Keep up the good work JADR

"I dream of the day when a Palestinian will say 'Our Jerusalem' and will mean Palestinians and Israelis, and an Israeli will say 'Our Jerusalem' and will mean Israelis and Palestinians" (May 13, 1995).



[Among the signatories:]
70 university professors
131 other faculty members, doctors, lecturers and researchers
89 poets, authors, translators and editors
54 painters, sculptors and other artists
59 journalists
41 actors, moviemakers and theater directors and critics
13 psychiatrists and psychologists
32 jurists
16 architects and town-planners
57 educators
3 rabbis
11 musicians
and many others. Eight signatories are laureates of the prestigious Israel Prize:
educator Lova Eliav,
poet Natan Sach ,
authors A. B. Yehoshua and the late Emil Habibi,
moviemaker Ram Levy,
actress Henna Maron,
critic Dan Miron,
sculptor Danny Karavan.
Another signatory, Lord Yehudi Menuhin, the foremost living musician, is a laureate of the Wolf Prize, Israel's equivalent of the Nobel Prize.
One signatory is a Jerusalem Prize Laureate (the world-famous German-Jewish writer, Stefan Heym).
One signatory is an ex-cabinet minister (Viktor Shem-Tov).
3 more former Knesset members are:
Uri Avnery,
Me'ir Pa'il
Charlie Biton
One is an ex-ambassador (professor Jacob Shim'oni, the Grand Old Man of Israel's orientalists.)
A very representative group of leaders of the Palestinian population in Jerusalem has signed:
Faisal al-Husseini, undisputed leader of this population, has signed publicly at a press-conference.
Hannan Ashrawi, Ziad Abu-Zayad;
deputy minister of the Palestinian National Authority Anis al-Kak;
moviemaker Daoud Kuttab,
The Palestinian ambassador to Australia, Ali Kazak
In a meeting with several of the signatories, Yassir Arafat publidy endorsed the text of the statement.
The signatories have been invited to a collective visit to the beleaguered Orient House, center of the Palestinian presence in East Jerusalem.
It is quite impossible to enumerate all the signatories and their place in Israeli society, culture and public life. A random list would include:
Ruth Dayan, the former wife of Moshe Dayan:
professor Ze'ev Sternhell;
the painter-sculptor Yig'al Tumarkin;
Heart surgeon professor Daniel Goor;
Writers Yoram Kaniuk and Yitzhak Ben-Ner;
Dramatist Hanoch Levin;
Poets Daliah Ravikovitch and Dan Almagor;
Painters Dan Kedar and Ziona Shimshi;
Dr. Ruchama Marton of the renowned Association of Israeli and Palestinian Physicians for Human Rights;
Israel's number 1 television personality Yaron London;
Lawyers Amnon Zichroni and Lea Tsemel;
Jerusalem town planner and former member of the municipa council Sara Kaminker;
renowned feminist professor Alice Shalvi;
Beduin activist Nuri al-Ukbi;
veteran Jerusalem honorary citizen and social worker Thea Natan;
Naomi Shemer-Shamruk, daughter of the German Zionist leader Hans Blumental;
the widely respected oriental Jewish scholar professor Shlomo Elbaz;
Music idol Shlomo Grunich;
Time magazine star-photographer David Rubinger;
Zika Peled , widow of army general and peace activist Matti Peled;
Military historian Me'ir Pa'il

Oh yes, in Jerusalem all the religions seems to open a branch in there.
You can walk along the Arab quarter and visit mosques, walk along the Christian quarter and walk along the Via Dolorosa, walk along the Jewish quarter and get into the Western Wall, you can walk along the Armenian country and visit churches....go and walk, is open, everyone is going there to visit and buy souvenirs.
But Jerusalem is the capital of the State of Israel, that, will never change.

Don't care. This is no argument.

I take it back... you are BOTH stupid, AND incapable of answering. As I said, you have as much... well, MORE proof, actually... than the rest of the world has about the Holocaust. I, however, don't determine for others, I let them determine for themselves.

I hope, at some point, you'll grow up. If not, I don't envy you your life. I give you permission to feel self-satisfied at this point, because although you UNDERSTAND that you are wrong, and avoiding real dialogue, you will never allow yourself to internalize it. And for my self, again, I apologize... I've watched you before, I KNOW you aren't capable of self-determination... and yet I've wasted all of this time that you could have been using to NOT learn. Sorry.

Continue on with your regular brain-washed drivel... pray don't let KNOWLEDGE get in the way.

if THAT was all what they want!

Noes, they want all the country for them.

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I have answered every single points. Still waiting for proof of genocide?



Still waiting for a single proof of what you are saying?
You seem incapable of understanding the material that you copy and paste!



I guess that means you can not back up your baseless accusations of genocide?





I guess not! Well - you can't make that case - there is no point for you in debating further.

Wow.. some utopia!!!!

Still goin at it eh, jadr? Seems to me most people have won their arguments by now.

You just CAN'T leave well enough alone, can you? Seeing as some people seem incapable of following a LINK... here you go.

(from “Tackling America’s Toughest Questions,” now at Amazon.com)

As long ago as October 19, 2000, the then United Nations Human Rights Commission (now Council) condemned Israel for inflicting “war crimes” and “crimes against humanity” upon the Palestinian people, most of whom are Muslims. The reader has a general idea of what a war crime is, so I am not going to elaborate upon that term here. But there are different degrees of heinousness for war crimes. In particular are the more serious war crimes denominated “grave breaches” of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Since the outbreak of the first Intifada in 1987, the world has seen those heinous war crimes inflicted every day by Israel against the Palestinian people living in occupied Palestine: e.g., willful killing of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli army and by Israel’s illegal paramilitary settlers. These Israeli “grave breaches” of the Fourth Geneva Convention mandate universal prosecution for the perpetrators and their commanders, whether military or civilian, including and especially Israel’s political leaders.

But I want to focus for a moment on Israel’s “crimes against humanity” against the Palestinian people—as determined by the U.N. Human Rights Commission itself, set up pursuant to the requirements of the United Nations Charter. What are “crimes against humanity”? This concept goes all the way back to the Nuremberg Charter of 1945 for the trial of the major Nazi war criminals in Europe. In the Nuremberg Charter of 1945, drafted by the United States Government, there was created and inserted a new type of international crime specifically intended to deal with the Nazi persecution of the Jewish people:

Crimes against humanity: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war, or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.

The paradigmatic example of “crimes against humanity” is what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jewish people. This is where the concept of “crimes against humanity” came from. And this is what the U.N. Human Rights Commission determined that Israel is currently doing to the Palestinian people: crimes against humanity. Expressed in legal terms, this is just like what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jews. That is the significance of the formal determination by the U.N. Human Rights Commission that Israel has inflicted “crimes against humanity” upon the Palestinian people. The Commission chose this well-known and long-standing legal term of art quite carefully and deliberately based upon the evidence it had compiled.

Furthermore, the Nuremberg “crimes against humanity” are the historical and legal precursor to the international crime of genocide as defined by the 1948 Genocide Convention. The theory here was that what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jewish people was so horrific that it required a special international treaty that would codify and universalize the Nuremberg concept of “crimes against humanity.” And that treaty ultimately became the 1948 Genocide Convention.

Article II of the Genocide Convention defines the international crime of genocide in relevant part as follows:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

….

As documented by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe in his seminal book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (2006), Israel’s genocidal policy against the Palestinians has been unremitting, extending from before the very foundation of the State of Israel in 1948, and is ongoing and even intensifying against the 1.5 million Palestinians living in Gaza. Zionism’s “final solution” to Israel’s much touted “demographic threat” allegedly posed by the very existence of the Palestinians has always been genocide.

Certainly, Israel and its predecessors-in-law—the Zionist agencies, forces, and terrorist gangs—have committed genocide against the Palestinian people that actually started on or about 1948 and has continued apace until today in violation of Genocide Convention Articles II(a), (b), and (c). For at least the past six decades, the Israeli government and its predecessors-in-law—the Zionist agencies, forces, and terrorist gangs—have ruthlessly implemented a systematic and comprehensive military, political, and economic campaign with the intent to destroy in substantial part the national, ethnical, racial, and different religious (Jews versus Muslims and Christians) group constituting the Palestinian people. This Zionist/Israeli campaign has consisted of killing members of the Palestinian people in violation of Genocide Convention Article II(a). This Zionist/Israeli campaign has also caused serious bodily and mental harm to the Palestinian people in violation of Genocide Convention Article II(b). This Zionist/Israeli campaign has also deliberately inflicted on the Palestinian people conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction in substantial part in violation of Article II(c) of the Genocide Convention.

Article I of the Genocide Convention requires all contracting parties such as the United States “to prevent and to punish” genocide. Yet to the contrary, historically the “Jewish” state’s criminal conduct against the Palestinians has been financed, armed, equipped, supplied and politically supported by the “Christian” United States. Although the United States is a founding sponsor of, and a contracting party to, both the Nuremberg Charter and the Genocide Convention, as well as the United Nations Charter, these legal facts have never made any difference to the United States when it comes to its blank-check support for Israel and their joint and severable criminal mistreatment of the Palestinians—truly the wretched of the earth!

The world has not yet heard even one word uttered by the United States and its NATO allies in favor of “humanitarian intervention” against Israel in order to protect the Palestinian people, let alone a “responsibility to protect” the Palestinians from Zionist/Israeli genocide. The United States, its NATO allies, and the Great Powers on the U.N. Security Council would not even dispatch a U.N. Charter Chapter 6 monitoring force to help protect the Palestinians, let alone even contemplate any type of U.N. Charter Chapter 7 enforcement actions against Israel – shudder the thought!. The doctrine of “humanitarian intervention” so readily espoused elsewhere when U.S. foreign policy goals are allegedly at stake has been clearly proved to be a joke and a fraud when it comes to stopping the ongoing and accelerating Israeli campaign of genocide against the Palestinian people.

Rather than rein in the Israelis—which would be possible just by turning off the funding pipeline—the United States government, the U.S. Congress, and U.S. taxpayers instead support the “Jewish” state to the tune of about 4 billion dollars per year, without whose munificence this instance of genocide – and indeed conceivably the State of Israel itself – would not be possible. What the world witnesses here is (yet another) case of “dishumanitarian intervention” or “humanitarian extermination” by the United States and Israel against the Palestinians and Palestine. In today’s world genocide pays so long as it is done at the behest of the United States and its de jure or de facto allies such as Israel.
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My apologies to others for posting the whole thing here.

Now, JADR, there are yet MORE facts for you... direct quotes from the Geneva Convention, correlation between those quotes and the illegal actions of the Zionist regime (which I have NEVER confused with the Jewish people, BTW) and before you say "They were never charged," be VERY careful what you ask for. There are your facts, and clear as day.

I'm all about truth, fact and thought, unlike some. You still haven't answered, you obviously WILL never answer, and I'm ashamed of you, playing dumb.

At least, I HOPE you're playing...

Hehehe, too funny. He actually doesn't even HAVE an argument! Can't answer a simple question... and yet I guess the more fool me, because I'm pounding my head against a brick wall of ignorance and / or indoctrination. So really, at the end of the day it's MY bad...

@ The word "batflaps"

Sorry - I will answer later as I have too much work right now ...

[link to www.vho.org]

Here's what its about.
Professor A. R. Butz was the first (and so far the only) writer to treat the entire Holocaust complex from the Revisionist perspective, in a precise scientific manner. This book exhibits the overwhelming force of historical and logical arguments which Revisionism had accumulated by the middle of the 70s. This new edition comes with several supplements adding new information.

The first book to treat the central questions of the Holocaust allegation -- the evidence for a German extermination program, for mass killings by poison gas, and for the deaths of some six million Jews -- with academic rigor, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century created Holocaust revisionism as a discipline with its appearance in 1976. Few professional historians could have devised the brilliant investigative strategy that is central to The Hoax: author Arthur Butz's focus on the information long available to the Allies on the operations of Auschwitz, a strategically important petrochemical center (Butz correctly surmised the existence of U.S. aerial photos of the camp years before it was admitted). The Hoax's several chapters on the question of Allied knowledge of Auschwitz have busied orthodox experts for nearly three decades with trying to explain how mass operations seem to have gone unnoticed for several years -- to no avail. The Hoax remains at the center of the revisionist inquiry, valuable even in those few areas in which it has been superseded by subsequent revisionist research: a book that, especially in this handsome new design and printing, needs to be read, and re-read, then read again, by every serious revisionist.



Many of the facts they present are compelling. For instance, no one can really pinpoint where the "six million" figure arose and the sheer logistics of murdering six million people (during a war where supplies and manpower were scarce) are hard to swallow.

The attacks on Mr. Butz are disturbing. This author is entitled to express his views. The Holocaust is the ONLY event in history that one is forbidden from questioning or probing. Why??? Why is this event any different from the many other genocides that have been committed in history? (For instance, the mass murder committed by Bolsheviks during the Russian Revolultion, to name only one.) In terms of numbers, Stallin killed a staggering twenty million individuals yet we are taught that the Holocaust is unique. Well, it isn't any more disturbing then other mass murders in history. If other historical events are open to scholarly debate and questioning, why should the Holocaust be treated any differently? If the facts about the Holocaust all have merit, they will be proven true in the marketplace of ideas -- why the need to censor Mr. Butz?

I applaud Arthur Butz for the courage to question the "facts" that have been force-fed on the world for the past fifty years. This book is a must-read.

Fail. Sorry, weak and an obvious excuse. I've been working the whole time we've been playing pattycake, and still managed to keep up... but then, I do my OWN thinking, while you have to take the time to go and ASK someone what to say.

Admit it or not, you've lost your argument, and your point. You couldn't even give a simple personal opinion. And don't give me that Wikipedia quote garbage. That's like someone asking for your personal definition of happiness, and you answering:

"hap·py (hp)
adj. hap·pi·er, hap·pi·est
1. Characterized by good luck; fortunate.
2. Enjoying, showing, or marked by pleasure, satisfaction, or joy.
3. Being especially well-adapted; felicitous: a happy turn of phrase.
4. Cheerful; willing: happy to help.
5.
a. Characterized by a spontaneous or obsessive inclination to use something. Often used in combination: trigger-happy.
b. Enthusiastic about or involved with to a disproportionate degree. Often used in combination: money-happy; clothes-happy.
[Middle English, from hap, luck; see hap.]
happi·ly adv.
happi·ness n.
Synonyms: happy, fortunate, lucky, providential
These adjectives mean attended by luck or good fortune: a happy outcome; a fortunate omen; a lucky guess; a providential recovery. See Also Synonyms at glad1.


But then again, you KNEW that. I refuse to believe you're actually an idiot, therefore I can't understand why you ACT like one. However, the point remains, you knew EXACTLY what I was asking, and refused to give an answer, while insisting you HAD, which is a HORRIBLY transparent stall tactic, readily visible in ALL politics today, but most notably American, truth be told.

Anyhow, don't bother "answering" later... you've wasted any possible intellectual capital I might have been willing to grant you, and I believe I've been more willing than most. A shame, that, but I still believe that anyone can strive for redemption, so who knows?

At any rate, my weekend begins in five minutes or so, so I'll say farewell, and better luck next time. Critical thinking, JADR... it's IMPORTANT. Please remember that.

Be well, all.

You do know that the bible says israel is going to be destroyed, right?

Lets see the Left is the Vulturites and the right is the Reptilians.

Last Edited by danhow on 02/08/2010 02:17 AM

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


At present, while the current push for a New World Order appears to be under the control of an elite group of Anunnaki Remnants which I call the "Vulturites", the real control is under the more cunning group of Anunnaki Remnants, which have been called the "Reptilians".



These two groups of Anunnaki Remnants are in perpetual conflict with one another. However, for the time being, the Reptilians are purposely backing off to trick the Vulturites into doing the dirty job of setting up the New World Order before taking it over from them when they feel the time is righ

Seems accurate to me!

Your Daddy used to make you kiss his no-no place, didn't he?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Human rights council is an organization made up by the following countries:

Angola (2010)
Bahrain (2011)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (2010)
Argentina (2011) Belgium (2012)
Burkina Faso (2011)
Bangladesh (2012)
Hungary (2012)
Bolivia (2010)
France (2011)
Cameroon (2012)
China (2012)
Russian Federation (2012)
Brazil (2011)
Italy (2010)
Djibouti (2012)
India (2010)
Slovakia (2011)
Chile (2011)
Netherlands (2010)
Egypt (2010)
Indonesia (2010)
Slovenia (2010)
Cuba (2012)
Norway (2012)
Gabon (2011)
Japan (2011)
Ukraine (2011)
Mexico (2012)
United Kingdom (2011)
Ghana (2011)
Jordan (2012)
Nicaragua (2010)
United States (2012)
Madagascar (2010)
Kyrgyzstan (2012)
Uruguay (2012)
Mauritius (2012)
Pakistan (2011)
Nigeria (2012)
Philippines (2010)
Senegal (2012)
Qatar (2010)
South Africa (2010)
Republic of Korea (2011)
Zambia (2011)
Saudi Arabia (2012

Notice - this so called human rights council is formed by some of the worst human rights offenders you can find


Controversial country-specific rapporteurs

The UN Human Rights Council has been meeting to determine some of the fundamental procedures that will be used by the body in years to come. It is proposed that "country-specific “special procedures”—the special experts, representatives and rapporteurs who investigate human rights abuses in particular countries—be abolished, particularly those assigned to Cuba, Belarus, Burma and North Korea."[21] Another issue being considered is "whether outside experts and nongovernmental organizations will be able to play a key role in the review; currently, documents provided by the state in question appear to comprise the bulk of the evidence used for the review."[21]


So here - the so called authority on human rights proposed that they should just stop investigating Cuba,Belarus,Burma & North Korea!!


Another example of how disfunctional this council is:

As of January 24, 2008, Israel had been condemned 15 times in less than two years. The UN Human Rights Council, like its predecessor the UN Human Rights Commission, has been criticized by some Western countries for its fixation on Israel while ignoring the actions of neighboring states. This has led to accusations of the organization being anti-Israeli.[32] By April 2007, the Council had passed nine resolutions condemning Israel, the only country which it had specifically condemned.[33][34] Toward Sudan, another country with human rights abuses as documented by the Council's working groups, it has expressed "deep concern."[33]

So the organization you quote has condemned Israel 15 times.
Yet Sudan who has just exterminated 300,000 people - has only been condemned once.

Now your book copy paste claims that this bias commission has been condemned for inflicting 'crimes against humanity' and 'war crimes'

1) For a start, Only the International criminal court can pass this judgment, The United Nations Human rights Council has no power to 'condemn' a nation.

Therefore your book extract is clearly based on total bullshit.

2)According to the ICC, crimes against Humanity as defined as follow:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack[17]:

(a) Murder;
(b) Extermination;
(c) Enslavement;
(d) Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
(e) Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law;
(f) Torture;
(g) Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;
(h) Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
(i) Enforced disappearance of persons;
(j) The crime of apartheid;
(k) Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.

Now for you to prove that 'crimes against humanity' are indeed happening - you must show that any of the following acts are happening in a widespread or systematic way

And according to the Rome Statute Explanatory Memorandum:

The Rome Statute Explanatory Memorandum states that crimes against humanity

are particularly odious offenses in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of one or more human beings. They are not isolated or sporadic events, but are part either of a government policy (although the perpetrators need not identify themselves with this policy) or of a wide practice of atrocities tolerated or condoned by a government or a de facto authority.


However, murder, extermination, torture, rape, political, racial, or religious persecution and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice.

Isolated inhumane acts of this nature may constitute grave infringements of human rights, or depending on the circumstances, war crimes, but may fall short of meriting the stigma attaching to the category of crimes under discussion. On the other hand, an individual may be guilty of crimes against humanity even if he perpetrates one or two of the offences mentioned above, or engages in one such offense against only a few civilians, provided those offenses are part of a consistent pattern of misbehavior by a number of persons linked to that offender (for example, because they engage in armed action on the same side or because they are parties to a common plan or for any similar reason.) Consequently when one or more individuals are not accused of planning or carrying out a policy of inhumanity, but simply of perpetrating specific atrocities or vicious acts, in order to determine whether the necessary threshold is met one should use the following test: one ought to look at these atrocities or acts in their context and verify whether they may be regarded as part of an overall policy or a consistent pattern of an inhumanity, or whether they instead constitute isolated or sporadic acts of cruelty and wickedness.[1]


Understand here - the keyword is "widespread or systematic"

Also understand that war in itself is not a 'war crime'.


You may be able to argue that Israel has committed war crimes .. however this is not the point you initially made.

You accused Israel of Genocide - and you diverted on some lame book extract talking about war crimes...

SO let's get back to genocide ...

According to the ICC:

Genocide/Extermination is the act of killing with the intention of eradicating demographics within a population.


Palestinians (Gaza included) are the fastest growing population in the middle east.

I see no evidences of 'will to eradicate' Palestinians.

I'm still waiting for your evidence






In conclusion:

A lame book saying nonsense.
A human rights commission with no legal power
(why?? because it just a commission - stupid!)
No ICC indictment
Still waiting for proof of genocide...

All of them. UhDuh

Yep and everyone just hates them for not reason huh.

Link?

"All worship Israel or feel the wrath of god"

Thats what all you zionist scum think and all I can say is
yall can go and get fucked we ain't gonna allow you to wipe Iran of the map no matter how much bullshit you say about Israel being a tiny ally of the USA nor will we willingly attack Iran because you said so.

Pity the zionist rule is so high in America and many other countrys. It's time we stand the fuck up and defend our true freedoms instead of doing one tiny states bidding.

No one cares about your 'hormonal unbalance induced mood disorders'

Debate this thread or bugger off.

Hiya JADR