WHY THE LEFT HATES ISRAEL? (Wow! Batflaps are hating this thread!!!)

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Sem⋅ite
  /ˈsɛmaɪt or, especially Brit., ˈsimaɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sem-ahyt or, especially Brit., see-mahyt] Show IPA
–noun
1. a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.
2. a Jew.
3. a member of any of the peoples descended from Shem, the eldest son of Noah.



The word I was attacked over is "antisemite" and not "Semite" as you have deliberately chosen to define other than the actual one in question.

Cheap trick but the question was about a different word.

bluebird..stick to superbowl cooking...and leave the real debate to others.

at least when it comes to words you dont know the definitions of.



Educate me. Just post your dictionary with a definition of "antiSemite" meaning prejudice or hatred of Arabs or others within the group loosely referred to as Semites, any of them other than Jews.


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anti-semitism

Results 1 - 10 of about 4,580,000 for anti-semitism [definition]. (0.14 seconds)

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is prejudice against or hostility towards Jews, often rooted in hatred of their ethnic background ...

... The word antisemitism means prejudice against or hatred of Jews.

The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish.

anti-Semitism n. Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism. Discrimination against.

(Also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is prejudice against or hostility towards Jews, often rooted in hatred of their ethnic background, culture, ...

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I haven't read all this thread as I had a fair idea it would turn out in usual infantile ramblings on behalf of a paid idiot or a thinker of little thinking. Those threads with any of the words Israel, Hate, and Iran will usually attract those with their own (or paid) agenda.
To say anyone hates Israel is a fools thought as only the fool will stumble as they meet words such as Truth, and Justice. The majority of the people of Israel will follow blindly the corrupt leaders who tell them they are doing the work of a just God, while they blatantly ignore the Ten Commandments of their God.
Israel is NOT hated by anyone that I know for being Israel. Israel is hated for what it has become with the blatant use of the name of Israel to blatantly corrupt and cowardly kill, those who were created in the image of this God. The chosen people of Israel of olden times is NOT and NEVER could be those who now control Israel and the world.
You who would preach war in Israel and Iran would do well to consider your surroundings. Where do you propose to reside in this conflict? There will NOT be a Hill of Shame as there was in the Gaza massacre for you to write doodles on bombs, or picnic and photograph. Are you fools enough to think you will come out with the winning team to party on?
You fools who would wish to kill others should ponder of those in your care who would look to you for shelter and guidance. If you still think killing innocence is of such a nice pastime I would suggest you find your local most disliked person, capture and kill them in your livingroom and let your family assist.

Wake to fuck up..............

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REASON # 1: Israel is pro-American.

To site but one example, in the UN General Assembly, Israel votes with America more than any other nation. Well, you may say, isn't that because Israel is a major recipient of our foreign aid? But so is Egypt, and it rarely votes with us at the UN or supports our foreign policy initiatives.

Israel is an American ally because it shares our values: democracy, respect for human rights, religious tolerance, the free market and an open society.

But its very support for America makes it suspect in the eyes of the left, which is intrinsically anti-American. Since the left views America as the major repository of evil in the world, it stands to reason that it would have essentially the same view of our embattled allies. Just as it considers America a corrupt, repressive, racist, bully it follows that those nations / governments aligned with us are seen as similarly tainted.

In other words, the left hates Israel for the same reason the left hates America.

REASON #2: Arafat and his thugs, Hamas and Islamic Jihad, are seen as another national liberation movement the Middle East equivalent of the Viet Cong and Sandinistas.

Prior to World War II, the stated goal of Marxism was liberating oppressed classes, workers and peasants. When that enterprise failed spectacularly (witness 30 million dead in the Soviet Union and 50 million murdered in the People's Republic of China), Marxists moved on to national liberation freeing oppressed people from colonial exploiters.

For the left, Palestinians and Israelis fit this paradigm perfectly. The Palestinians are living on land they claim as their's but don't fully control. We are told that they're oppressed, subjugated, denied a nation of thier own. Liberals don't examine the validity
of that claim. They don't ask how the Palestinians got there. They don't look at their record with the limited self-government they have. They don't ask what will happen to the rest of Israel once its border is 8-miles wide at its narrow waist and with the Palestinians armed with rockets and mortars-controlling the high ground of Judea and Samaria -- allied with Syria, Iran, and Iraq.

All they know is the Palestinians are "An indigenous people." The Israelis are denying them elf-determination. That's all they want to know.

Actually, if Ariel Sharon wore fatigues and had a three-day growth, he'd probably improve his standing with the left.

REASON #3: Along the same lines, the Middle East conflict is seen as a power struggle between a Third World people and a transplanted European colonial power.

Thanks to multiculturalism, the left believes that morality is determined by ethnicity and income. Compared to Israelis, most Palestinians are relatively poor. For the left, poverty is a mark of virtue.

It's quite true that Israeli society reflects the Western values mentioned earlier, not withstanding that today many Israelis are sephardim, Jews whose families have lived in the region for millennia.

Whether it's strikers vs. corporate executives, cops vs. accused, the homeless vs. the middle class, black vs. white, oil companies vs. caribou, the left invariably sides with those it perceives as victims. For liberals, life is an endless psychodrama pitting horrible "haves" against saintly "have-nots."

Israel does indeed have the heavy weapons. On the other hand, the Palestinians have the support of the entire oil-rich, populous, armed-to-the-teeth Arab world. Are the Saudi oil shieks who support the destruction of Israel the wretched of the earth? Is Saddam Hussein, who pays a bounty to the families of suicide bombers? Are Syria, Iraq and Iran powerless? When viewed in isolation, the Palestinians appear to be the underdog. However, when they are properly preceived as an advanced column for
the Moslem Arab world, they are hardly an embattled people.

REASON #4: Israel is a Jewish State.

The left is notoriously hostile to religion. (This includes the religious left, which long ago abandoned salvation for social action).
Not all religion, but Western religion. Islam which is viewed as a Third World religion, a religion of the downtrodden has become the liberal's special pet, ironically, given that its agenda isn't exactly synonymous with that of the National Organization for Women and the Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders.

On the other hand just as conservative Christians are drawn to Israel because they see Biblical prophecy therein confirmed, the left is repulsed for the same reason.

In an era of science and socialism, the G-D of the Bible, the G-D of Christians and Jews, was supposed to disappear. But more than any other phenomenon, the existence of the modern state of Israel after 2,000 years of exile, despite overwhelming odds challenges that assumption.

Thus many on the left, who also view the founding of Israel as an injustice, would be happy to see all of the Jews pack up and move somewhere else. The idea of a Jewish State offends their universalism. For a nation to be a Moslem state is fine. But for a country to be a Jewish state is just too particularistic.

REASON #5: It is an article of faith for the left that all people are basically good, that conflict arises from misunderstand- ings and that everything can be resolved by negotiations.

Liberalism thus may be contrasted with Christianity and Judaism. Christianity holds that man is inherently sinful, a condition which may be rectified by faith and grace. Judaism believes that man has both a good and evil inclination but, as the Bible says, from birth man's heart is inclined toward evil. Liberalism believes in innate goodness that man is basically virtuous and corrupted, not by his nature, but by society.

How does this worldview apply to the Middle East? The left blames Israel for fighting terrorism with military force, instead of with diplomacy.

Since Israel is in a position to surrender territory, it stands to reason that if the violence is continuing, its because Israel hasn't given up enough.

What exactly has Israel given to the Palestinians? Since the signing of the 1993 Oslo Accords, it has turned over to the Arabs all of Gaza and 40% of the West Bank including areas with 80% of the population as well as Hebron, Judaism's second holiest city.

In return, Israel has gotten over 600 dead and 4,000 wounded (based on our population, that is the equivalent of 38,000 dead Americans and 230,000 wounded), the destruction of the Tomb of Rachel, and a worldwide wave of anti-Semitism.

Diplomacy only works when both sides are sincere, when each is committed to democracy and the rule of law. (Arafat is
sincerely committed to the destruction of Israel). Negotiations with totalitarians, tyrants and thugs lead to Munich and World War II, lead to the 1973 Paris Peace Accords (the grave of South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos), lead to our anti-nuclear agreement with North Korea, which we now know Kim Jong II violated all along, lead to Oslo. Nations have been buried with a scrap of paper.

Actually, the left wouldn't mind Israel so much if it wasn't an American ally, if it wasn't a democracy with Western values, if it wasn't a Jewish State, if its opponents weren't an indigenous, Third World people and if it was willing to give them whatever they want and trust in their word for Israel's future security.

Since the opposite is the case, the liberal-left's hostility toward Israel will only deepen. Given the liberal degeneration over the past six decades, it could not have been otherwise.

And for the record jadr it's not just the left that hates israel.


Yes, Muslims and Nazis are also in that category.

What's this?

A Jew making a film?

What's it about?



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What's this?

A Jew making a film?

What's it about?



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its about ADL Anti-Defamation-League i think, how beautiful it is to have such an organisation which drowns every sane discussion about Israel. PUn intended of course.

I saw it.

I would recommend it to every truth seeker.

And for the record jadr it's not just the left that hates israel.


Yes, Muslims and Nazis are also in that category.

read this

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I just want to help you get over your conditioning..

Gotta be careful these days , any **** discontent or criticsms that have to do with gods chosen special people can often be mis-labeled as being anti-semitic in nature.

Know the game.

Gotta be careful these days , any **** discontent or criticsms that have to do with gods chosen special people can often be mis-labeled as being anti-semitic in nature.

Know the game.



Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism; the latter term has been
corrupted to where today its use is as a powerful word
weapon smear tactic to prevent the public from discussing,
realizing, and reacting to the horrific danger that Zionism
presents to peace, safety and freedom of the entire world.
And that threat can be summarized as the Zionist’s "global
agenda."

Zionism

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, may
be the most powerful lobby in the USA. As its Web site
says, "Through more than 2,000 meetings with members of
Congress -- at home and in Washington -- AIPAC activists
help pass more than 100 pro-Israel legislative initiatives
a year. From procuring nearly $3 billion in aid critical to
Israel's security, to funding joint U.S.-Israeli efforts to
build a defense against unconventional weapons, AIPAC
members are involved in the most crucial issues facing
Israel." At its conferences, a parade of politicians from
both parties pay homage -- this year, speakers included
Senator Joe Lieberman, House Majority Leader John Boehner
and former Sen. John Edwards. All successful lobbies flaunt
their power. But unlike, say, the Cuban lobby or the AARP,
there's a taboo against outsiders discussing the influence
of AIPAC or the Israel lobby more generally, or criticizing
the way it shapes American policy. When people are critical
of Israeli policy or the U.S.-Israeli relationship, the
arguments are not taken on their merits, what happens
instead is that the great silencer -- the charge of anti-
emitism -- is leveled at the critics.

now remember the lies and miscontrements youve all been taught,,

anti -semite means jew hater


and one can be labeled a anti-semite for :

critizicing fed reserve

criticizing usary banking

critizing zionism

criticizing Israel

criticizing the amish

criticizing jewish people

criticizing rabbis

etc..etc..

KNOW the game.

The left also hates Christians.

bluebird

if semite means many different people with various dialects/ birthplaces , then anti-semtic has to apply to those same SEVERAL different factions...

Its not my fault the word has been mutated by certain factions, for their sole benefits..and that you have accepted those mutated and wrong definitions by those certain factions.

really...

i never wore a yamika...guess im a anti- semite..

rofl./

i never wore a yamika...guess im a anti- semite..

rofl./


You're an ignorant Irish dyslexic batflap - how does not bother to study the history of words , and proudly makes semantic fallacies....