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The Dead Sea Scrolls: A Cover Up?

 
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The Dead Sea Scrolls: A Cover Up?
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The "story" of jesus is bullshit...here's why:

Why, after 30 years, was John Allegro the only scholar to have published all the scroll texts allotted to him? Why were the others so reluctant to discuss differences of interpretation, or welcome the light that the scrolls shed on the origins of Christianity?

John Allegro argues that the Christianity of the New Testament is a weave of many threads. It has little to do with historical circumstance, unless to recall the possible fate of the Essene Teacher of Righteousness. It has much to do with key elements of Essenism, hidden in names, titles and story motifs; and with Old Testament prophecy; and with Jewish cultic beliefs and practices which go back to ancient fertility religions. All these are woven with Hellenistic mystery cults and myths into the Pauline theology of Christos.

Allegro understood from the start that the job of the editing team was to make the Dead Sea scroll texts available to scholars everywhere, and he believed their message mattered to everyone.

The scrolls had been written around or shortly before the time of Jesus. They give insight into the religious life and thought of a Jewish sect based at Qumran by the Dead Sea and usually identified as Essenes. Allegro believed the scrolls could help us understand the common origin of three religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He hoped they might be able to bring together scholars of each tradition in studying their common heritage without the barriers of religious prejudice.

This would mean making the texts accessible to all. Allegro had published the sections of text allotted to him in academic journals as soon as he had prepared them, and his volume (number five) in the official series Discoveries in the Judaean Desert of Jordan was ready for the press by the early 1960s. He continually campaigned for the publication of all scroll texts. However, his colleagues took a different approach, and little else appeared until 1991.

Those who controlled the scrolls threatened suit but backed off because of press coverage and public opinion. The door was opened to a new wave of scholarship and interpretation.

Allegro saw himself as a publicist for the scrolls. His books, talks and broadcasts promoted public interest in the scrolls and their significance. At first, the rest of the team encouraged his efforts, which after all were intended to help fund their research. But they thought he went too far in raising questions about the parallels between Essenism and Christianity, and doing so in public. He was accused of stirring up controversy at the expense of scholarship.
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two words for you.

Amanita Muscaria
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Yes. They were manipulated and only Catholic theosophical scholars were put in charge of interpreting them. This is why they have still not been published in their entirety.

John Allegro was completely ostracized for trying to fight the church on the availability of the scrolls to the public at large.

Fr. Milik was over-seer of who got to work on the scrolls.


Bad business. Vatican takes over spiritual findings again.

[link to www.johnallegro.org]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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two words for you.

Amanita Muscaria
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wtf

A poison mushroom?
I've eaten them, and nothing.
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Jesus was a gnostic and the Catholics killed the gnostics cause they didn't believe in catholic hierarchy. It's really that simple.

And also Jesus was not a sacrificed animal. Jeshua was a spiritual teacher who did not die for sins. He was a gnostic teacher, that is all. God does not sacrifice animals or his own children, this idea is nuts.
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Allegro's idea that Jesus is actually a psillysybin mushroom is ludicrous but I still say we give it a try globally!
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Allegro is very interesting indeed....check out his mushroom books.
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Jesus was a gnostic and the Catholics killed the gnostics cause they didn't believe in catholic hierarchy. It's really that simple.

And also Jesus was not a sacrificed animal. Jeshua was a spiritual teacher who did not die for sins. He was a gnostic teacher, that is all. God does not sacrifice animals or his own children, this idea is nuts.
 Quoting: Ethericplane 833266


Jesus wasn't Gnostic.
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Jesus was a gnostic and the Catholics killed the gnostics cause they didn't believe in catholic hierarchy. It's really that simple.

And also Jesus was not a sacrificed animal. Jeshua was a spiritual teacher who did not die for sins. He was a gnostic teacher, that is all. God does not sacrifice animals or his own children, this idea is nuts.


Jesus wasn't Gnostic.
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He sure as hell wasn't "Christian"!
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Allegro is very interesting indeed....check out his mushroom books.
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wow syncronicity on the shrooms. Seconds later AC.

Really people, this war on drugs is connected to the money changers whom Jesus overthrew. I think they wanted too much for their shrooms, as well as being coin clippers.

I think Allegro is a great guy. Free shrooms earthwide! Find Jesus through shrooms or peyote and faith isn't needed. You can actually talk to him!

But please, do not do such mystical drugs during work hours. Only on your days off. And don't do anything stupid like jump off the roof or dumb shit like that.
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Re: The Dead Sea Scrolls: A Cover Up?
two words for you.

Amanita Muscaria


wtf

A poison mushroom?
I've eaten them, and nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852619



they have to be fully mature. The cap has to be flat or curved up like a plate. muscumol is the psychoactive molecule. If they aren't mature you'll just get a sick stomach and no trip.

Toxicity is 13 full caps of amanita muscaria (red toad stool with white spots)

The purple and yellow ones are known as the death cap and destroying angel both are lethal even in small doses. You even begin to feel better then you croak it. Seriously toxic

Alegro never said Jesus was a mushroom he attributed all the miracles people were seeing was down to amanita muscaria and psilocybin mushrooms being part of the staple diet at the time.
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Alegro never said Jesus was a mushroom he attributed all the miracles people were seeing was down to amanita muscaria and psilocybin mushrooms being part of the staple diet at the time.
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You are killing my buzz.
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Re: The Dead Sea Scrolls: A Cover Up?
Jesus was a gnostic and the Catholics killed the gnostics cause they didn't believe in catholic hierarchy. It's really that simple.

And also Jesus was not a sacrificed animal. Jeshua was a spiritual teacher who did not die for sins. He was a gnostic teacher, that is all. God does not sacrifice animals or his own children, this idea is nuts.
 Quoting: Ethericplane 833266

since you seem to be an expert on Gnostics explain to us Gnostic rites of the late 1st early 2nd century

Jesus was no Gnostic

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For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Alegro never said Jesus was a mushroom he attributed all the miracles people were seeing was down to amanita muscaria and psilocybin mushrooms being part of the staple diet at the time.


You are killing my buzz.
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sorry dude that wasnt my intention. But you are right about connecting to a higher consciousness with the help of shrooms, peyote and ayahuasca.

peace dude.
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really great stuff! thanks
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Re: The Dead Sea Scrolls: A Cover Up?
two words for you.

Amanita Muscaria

wtf

A poison mushroom?
I've eaten them, and nothing.

they have to be fully mature. The cap has to be flat or curved up like a plate. muscumol is the psychoactive molecule. If they aren't mature you'll just get a sick stomach and no trip.

Toxicity is 13 full caps of amanita muscaria (red toad stool with white spots)

The purple and yellow ones are known as the death cap and destroying angel both are lethal even in small doses. You even begin to feel better then you croak it. Seriously toxic

Alegro never said Jesus was a mushroom he attributed all the miracles people were seeing was down to amanita muscaria and psilocybin mushrooms being part of the staple diet at the time.
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OK thanks, perhaps the maturity was my problem.
I harvested them myself, and ate when dry.

All were domed no flat or conclave.
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really great stuff! thanks
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