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Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?

 
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Yes, GATE (Gifted and Talented Education), Southern California, 70's
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hf

If you haven't been down the rabbit hole of this thread, prepare yourself in advance. It's quite disturbing when the memories start coming back.

They were up to some weird stuff with us. It's no surprise so many found GLP.
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Holy crap, I'm already getting freaked out by page one!

damned
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Ah yes, Shool, I have heard of this place.
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bump

Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Books that were encouraged were: A Wrinkle in Time, The Elephant Man (That was my personal favorite to withhold), Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and any of the books from the Choose Your Own Adventure Series.


Do you remember reading any of the books in my quote above?
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Yes, also reading books by Lois Duncan.

This thread is really odd.

With that first puzzle of geometric shapes, when I clicked the link and saw the image I remembered doing that test, could smell the wax on floors, feel my school uniform, see the classroom and desk. I had completed that puzzle very quickly and the teacher made me redo while she was watching.
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Lois Duncan, yes - "Stranger With My Face"

And I've always been able to astral project, or at least lucid dream. alter my brain waves, etc...

Speaking of books, there was a set of yellow books with glossy covers, advanced reading at my age, which I think was eight or nine.

They were short stories and always freaked me out because they were strange, disturbing, violent...in particular I remember the one where people were attacked and torn to shreds by lions.
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bump

Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Thanks, I will.

I seem to remember something back in the 80s/90's about "Indigo Children", maybe that is related.

I was donating my waitress tips to MUFON and CUFOS at age 17, got my degree in physics then dove into a demanding career (more administrative than scientific). I really lost touch with myself during this time while focusing on a mundane, soul crushing path the last 20 years.

I have more time now to get back in touch!
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Lois Duncan, yes - "Stranger With My Face"
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Is the book you read by that title the same as the description you find for it online?

For me it was "A Wrinkle In Time".

Glad to have you join us. Just remember, it's all ancient history now.
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bump

Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Why yes I was a part of it in El Cajon, outside of San Diego. What is off grid AZ and what does it have to do with this?
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Lois Duncan, yes - "Stranger With My Face"
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


Is the book you read by that title the same as the description you find for it online?

For me it was "A Wrinkle In Time".

Glad to have you join us. Just remember, it's all ancient history now.
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Thanks, I can't wait to read through this thread, though it sounds kind of ominous. I guess I'll find out they did something bad to us? Hope not!
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bump

Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Why yes I was a part of it in El Cajon, outside of San Diego. What is off grid AZ and what does it have to do with this?
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Flying Hills.

Depending on the timeframe, we may have been classmates.
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Were you ever removed, many times, from your regular class for "testing"?

Were you shown a series of high speed images on a television, not once, but many times?

Was the school psychologist selectively interested in you?
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I was involved in this during the 1st Grade on the East Coast, 1978-79.

It was myself and 3 other students. Other than the high speed info dumps delivered via CCTV, we practiced "memory" exercises, and what I now know is remote viewing.

During this time, I experienced a NDE with a rare form of menengitis, an OBE, and an abduction where I was exposed to one of the high speed info dumps via CCTV outside of the school environment.
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bump

Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Why yes I was a part of it in El Cajon, outside of San Diego. What is off grid AZ and what does it have to do with this?
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He's referencing my user name, telling me to search around the internet.
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Were you ever removed, many times, from your regular class for "testing"?

Were you shown a series of high speed images on a television, not once, but many times?

Was the school psychologist selectively interested in you?
 Quoting: Jane Grey 862970


I was involved in this during the 1st Grade on the East Coast, 1978-79.

It was myself and 3 other students. Other than the high speed info dumps delivered via CCTV, we practiced "memory" exercises, and what I now know is remote viewing.

During this time, I experienced a NDE with a rare form of menengitis, an OBE, and an abduction where I was exposed to one of the high speed info dumps via CCTV outside of the school environment.
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Dig through this monster thread. It's equally disturbing and enlightening.

Glad to be picking up more "strays". Especially now!
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bump

Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Why yes I was a part of it in El Cajon, outside of San Diego. What is off grid AZ and what does it have to do with this?
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That was supposed to be an ironic question for a GATE kid haha. Seriously though, just for 2nd a 3rd grade before military father got transferred. Now I’m curious, gonna read through this thread!
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Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Why yes I was a part of it in El Cajon, outside of San Diego. What is off grid AZ and what does it have to do with this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79626802


Flying Hills.

Depending on the timeframe, we may have been classmates.
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Anza 78-9
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bump

Since we're still picking up strays.

Off Grid AZ - search around the internet. This thread is a great source of info, but the "GATE Kid" phenomenon is well documented and discussed in great length in many places.

You'll be surprised at how many traits we all have in common.
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Why yes I was a part of it in El Cajon, outside of San Diego. What is off grid AZ and what does it have to do with this?
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Flying Hills.

Depending on the timeframe, we may have been classmates.
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Anza 78-9
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Oh interesting. Yeah, they moved it over to Flying Hills Elementary in the mid-80's. I was in from 88-92.

Glad to have you on board! This thread is a rabbit hole. Ignore the "Ludens" garbage though.
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I guess I'll find out they did something bad to us?
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If you are hoping for a "punchline" or easy answer to that question, you won't find it. My assessment after years of looking into this is that it was most likely a wildly irresponsible teaching experiment driven by the "Human Potential" movement and eugenics.

Whether there was a more nefarious motive, I honestly can't say with the evidence on-hand. The things many of us remember point to some disturbing possibilities, but for most, those memories are not accessible beyond the very surface.

Again, it's all ancient history at this point anyway.
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G.A.T.E., southern California. '98-'00, grade 3-5.
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G.A.T.E., southern California. '98-'00, grade 3-5.
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cheers

Welcome aboard!

I'm still amazed, 11 years later, how many of us have found places like GLP.
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Why yes I was a part of it in El Cajon, outside of San Diego. What is off grid AZ and what does it have to do with this?
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Flying Hills.

Depending on the timeframe, we may have been classmates.
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Anza 78-9
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Oh interesting. Yeah, they moved it over to Flying Hills Elementary in the mid-80's. I was in from 88-92.

Glad to have you on board! This thread is a rabbit hole. Ignore the "Ludens" garbage though.
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Thanks! Yes on Montessori in 1st grade and continued in 4th-6th in Virginia, after the SoCal time. All close to military bases. I was told IQ tested at 186, although my adult tests have only ranged from 152-167. In around 2012-2013 something clicked, and the world has seemed different since then. Found GLP going down a rabbit hole while trying to figure out what broke
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Found GLP going down a rabbit hole while trying to figure out what broke
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That's what they trained us for. It's no surprise that the kids who were taught to always look at the "big picture" would also be the ones who would see the cracks in the facade first.

I'm off for the night, but glad to see more of us here.
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Found GLP going down a rabbit hole while trying to figure out what broke
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That's what they trained us for. It's no surprise that the kids who were taught to always look at the "big picture" would also be the ones who would see the cracks in the facade first.

I'm off for the night, but glad to see more of us here.
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bump

Because there are still more of us out there!
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Still here, eh? Nice.
Well, I got a lot of certificates and training in many fields, degree in IT, latest cert in nano, but never made money.
Its not what ya know, its who ya know.
But, Im helping people with health issues now, and
animal rescue.
Still learning.
I wish all the best.
Its not easy living in society when one is different,
thats for sure.
For example, I have no interest in the movie "ass,"
and do not go to cosco or carls jr.
"Ow, my balls" is not funny to me either.
Guess I will stay home and brighten this corner, lol.
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Full presentation:
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Bump for old time's sake.

I'm pretty sure this thread is how I first found GLP.
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bump
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late 80's CATS/Gifted program AZ

Abducted and left outside deadbolted door around the same time.
Can predict future events. Empath. Used to see auras. Def not from around here is how I feel.

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late 80's CATS/Gifted program AZ

Abducted and left outside deadbolted door around the same time.
Can predict future events. Empath. Used to see auras. Def not from around here is how I feel.
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cheers

I was same era, but in CA.

Do you remember heads down on the desks, blinds closed, soft music playing, visualization exercises? That was common during that timeframe.
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Were you ever removed, many times, from your regular class for "testing"?

Were you shown a series of high speed images on a television, not once, but many times?

Was the school psychologist selectively interested in you?
 Quoting: Jane Grey 862970


5aI was in the Talented and gifted program in Ohio like 1984-1986ish I can remember the IQ testing and learning to program the Apple computers and made a number operated system to hit numbers for running a program and can remember making program to teach Spanish I was in 5th grade. Weird how many of us who are here.
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I was in it in the 80's and 90's in California. They called it GATE. Gifted And Talented Education. Tons of special testing. I completely forgot about the fast flickering light test until you brought it up. I used to get bussed to another school once per week for the whole day. All the GATE kids in the district would meet once per week at the same school for special classes and tests. There was only maybe 20 of us or so out of 7 or 8 schools.
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I was in GATE as well. I wrote a book, won a book faire entrance, and won the overall prize for my book about 'Ginger' at the age of 8. It was about an guinea-pig that escaped and became a giant.

However, once I entered the class, it was really creepy. In addition, I was busy enjoying myself reading Lord of the Rings, which was quite a challenge at that time. They took me to get my IQ tested by a group, and even though I had a broken arm, and couldn't do the timed block tests, my IQ for that age was rated at 186.5. That was equivalent to adult IQ of 105 or so at the age of 8.

My last IQ test was 130+ some 10 years ago. IQ's above that are very difficult to determine.

I'm an Engineer BTW.
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Still here, eh? Nice.
Well, I got a lot of certificates and training in many fields, degree in IT, latest cert in nano, but never made money.
Its not what ya know, its who ya know.
But, Im helping people with health issues now, and
animal rescue.
Still learning.
I wish all the best.
Its not easy living in society when one is different,
thats for sure.
For example, I have no interest in the movie "ass,"
and do not go to cosco or carls jr.
"Ow, my balls" is not funny to me either.
Guess I will stay home and brighten this corner, lol.
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Right there with you. I don't understand most things that people find so hilarious. I will never understand the appeal of Will Ferrell.

And I don't have the certs, but am still considered a specialist in a wide number of fields (and also made no money). I get the work, I just don't charge what I should.

I assume you are autodidactic?

cheers
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5aI was in the Talented and gifted program in Ohio like 1984-1986ish I can remember the IQ testing and learning to program the Apple computers and made a number operated system to hit numbers for running a program and can remember making program to teach Spanish I was in 5th grade. Weird how many of us who are here.
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I was in GATE as well. I wrote a book, won a book faire entrance, and won the overall prize for my book about 'Ginger' at the age of 8. It was about an guinea-pig that escaped and became a giant.

However, once I entered the class, it was really creepy. In addition, I was busy enjoying myself reading Lord of the Rings, which was quite a challenge at that time. They took me to get my IQ tested by a group, and even though I had a broken arm, and couldn't do the timed block tests, my IQ for that age was rated at 186.5. That was equivalent to adult IQ of 105 or so at the age of 8.

My last IQ test was 130+ some 10 years ago. IQ's above that are very difficult to determine.

I'm an Engineer BTW.
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cheers

And welcome to you both. I think this thread has picked up more of us in 24 hours than it has in 2 years.

I'm not the original OP - I came into it around page 40 or 50, over a decade ago, but I bump it occasionally to see if more of us are around.

I'm curious what all of your interpretations of current events are. I know I don't like what I'm seeing.
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5aI was in the Talented and gifted program in Ohio like 1984-1986ish I can remember the IQ testing and learning to program the Apple computers and made a number operated system to hit numbers for running a program and can remember making program to teach Spanish I was in 5th grade. Weird how many of us who are here.
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I was in GATE as well. I wrote a book, won a book faire entrance, and won the overall prize for my book about 'Ginger' at the age of 8. It was about an guinea-pig that escaped and became a giant.

However, once I entered the class, it was really creepy. In addition, I was busy enjoying myself reading Lord of the Rings, which was quite a challenge at that time. They took me to get my IQ tested by a group, and even though I had a broken arm, and couldn't do the timed block tests, my IQ for that age was rated at 186.5. That was equivalent to adult IQ of 105 or so at the age of 8.

My last IQ test was 130+ some 10 years ago. IQ's above that are very difficult to determine.

I'm an Engineer BTW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12306812


cheers

And welcome to you both. I think this thread has picked up more of us in 24 hours than it has in 2 years.

I'm not the original OP - I came into it around page 40 or 50, over a decade ago, but I bump it occasionally to see if more of us are around.

I'm curious what all of your interpretations of current events are. I know I don't like what I'm seeing.
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Thanks for the welcome!! I can remember just knowing how to read at 3 years old I had read a whole set of encyclopedias my father had bought at an auction.No one taught me how to read I just knew how and was talking about the pachyderms at the circus and floored my parents as to how I knew that word.
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Thanks for the welcome!! I can remember just knowing how to read at 3 years old I had read a whole set of encyclopedias my father had bought at an auction.No one taught me how to read I just knew how and was talking about the pachyderms at the circus and floored my parents as to how I knew that word.
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Do you find you still learn practically by osmosis?





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