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Nova Scotia company is helping develop a new plasma rocket engine that could cut a trip to Mars down to just 40 days.
N.S. company helps build plasma rocket

A Nova Scotia company that builds transmitters for radio stations is helping develop a new plasma rocket engine that could cut a trip to Mars down to just 40 days.

Nautel Ltd. of Hacketts Cove has partnered with a Texas rocket company, Ad Astra, to build a radio-frequency amplifier for a new plasma rocket engine.

The radio waves from the amplifier heat gas, such as argon or xenon, into plasma as hot as the surface of the sun. The rocket then uses a series of magnets to propel the plasma out of the rocket at incredible speeds.

Rather than the short, explosive blast seen in chemical rocket engines, plasma rockets provide a continuous, high-speed stream of hot gas that could accelerate a spacecraft to Mars over a period of weeks.

Such a spacecraft would then turn its plasma engines toward its destination and fire them in the opposite direction to slow down.

Plasma rockets aren't suitable for getting a spaceship from Earth into space, but once in space, a spaceship using plasma propulsion could reach Mars in 40 days, a trip that could currently last up to two years.

Other companies have built plasma rockets — the Soviets even experimented with the technology in the 1960s — but Nautel has built a powerful radio-frequency generator the size of a golf bag. Other such devices are typically the size of a truck.

"What [Ad Astra was] looking for was technology which would be practical to be put into space, so something much smaller and much more efficient. For a 50-kilowatt generator, this is certainly the smallest in the world that we know of," said Neutel's head engineer on the project, Tim Hardy.

NASA has expressed interest in the technology for orbital repositioning on the International Space Station. A proposed project would put the plasma rockets on the ISS in 2013.

"I could see in some reasonable period, some number of years, that this technology will be moving ships and people between the Earth and the moon, between Earth and Mars," said Nautel CEO Peter Conlon.

David Williams, a Canadian astronaut who has been to space twice, says plasma technology could make space travel faster and safer.

"For us as astronauts it means that we can get to other destinations in our solar system much faster, so all of a sudden more places to go to become more accessible," said Williams.

Faster space travel also means less time for the astronauts in microgravity, Williams said, meaning a lower incidence of the bone wasting associated with long stints in outer space.

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Re: Nova Scotia company is helping develop a new plasma rocket engine that could cut a trip to Mars down to just 40 days.
Zoom to Mars

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BFD! All a trip to Mars will do is spawn a gazillion new conspiracies.

Hmmmmmmmm.... hmm
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that means they have prob. had it up and running for about 40 yrs.
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Now that would rock. 40 days to Mars! Cool.

I'll be a lot more enthused when they have a functional prototype, though.
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Wow! That's impressive.
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if you saw the location of nautel you would find it hard to believe.
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They don't have to be pretty.

It just has to work.
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Another place that the human race can go to and subsequently fuck up....HURRY UP 2012!
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HEY... so off to the moon in a couple of hours and then mine away all that precious moon water to bring back here... um..
tankers? back to the drawing board.
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OH NO! SPACE PIRATES!
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Tankers, to transport Lunar water or other materials to Earth?

Um, no. You build rail guns on the Moon, load the cargo into buckets, and sling them back to Earth for retrieval at sea. Simple, cheap, and (relatively) easy.
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I don't know what the cruising speed is but one must be alert or have radar developed that would veer a ship away from debris or have a protective super skin or protected by a force field like that of Star Trek.

They have a long long ways to go before I ride
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PLASMA. Gotta love that word. But do people even know what it is?

PLASMA, its importance and why you should know about it. Warning, educational.
Thread: PLASMA, its importance and why you should know about it. Warning, educational.
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nice find... is it being built in NS as well?
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FYI, plasma is not hot gas, plasma is the another state. Solids > liquids > gas > plasma. Just to clear that error up.
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I'm sure all the homeless families and people without jobs are thrilled about this too!

I dunno......not taking care of our planet and its people first always perplexed me.

I know....'we have to make plans for the future and explore our cosmos' but, if we're having so many problems in the 'now' how can we possibly trust them to know what they're doing for later?

Who cares about Mars (for now)? I mean really! I won't benefit by this. Only the Elite, the rich (investors) and the famous will. The journey into space isn't for the common folk so....what's this all about? It's wasteful spending right now for Nova Scotia or NASA.
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I'm sure all the homeless families and people without jobs are thrilled about this too!

I dunno......not taking care of our planet and its people first always perplexed me.

I know....'we have to make plans for the future and explore our cosmos' but, if we're having so many problems in the 'now' how can we possibly trust them to know what they're doing for later?

Who cares about Mars (for now)? I mean really! I won't benefit by this. Only the Elite, the rich (investors) and the famous will. The journey into space isn't for the common folk so....what's this all about? It's wasteful spending right now for Nova Scotia or NASA.
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I agree, we should clean our home before going out.
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BFD! All a trip to Mars will do is spawn a gazillion new conspiracies.

Hmmmmmmmm.... hmm
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well at least your on the right forum lol
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I'm sure all the homeless families and people without jobs are thrilled about this too!

I dunno......not taking care of our planet and its people first always perplexed me.

I know....'we have to make plans for the future and explore our cosmos' but, if we're having so many problems in the 'now' how can we possibly trust them to know what they're doing for later?

Who cares about Mars (for now)? I mean really! I won't benefit by this. Only the Elite, the rich (investors) and the famous will. The journey into space isn't for the common folk so....what's this all about? It's wasteful spending right now for Nova Scotia or NASA.
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Good point but it is fun for them to dream on ...

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I'm sure all the homeless families and people without jobs are thrilled about this too!

I dunno......not taking care of our planet and its people first always perplexed me.

I know....'we have to make plans for the future and explore our cosmos' but, if we're having so many problems in the 'now' how can we possibly trust them to know what they're doing for later?

Who cares about Mars (for now)? I mean really! I won't benefit by this. Only the Elite, the rich (investors) and the famous will. The journey into space isn't for the common folk so....what's this all about? It's wasteful spending right now for Nova Scotia or NASA.


I agree, we should clean our home before going out.
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Perhaps too late for that now, looks like we're going to get a house call. They know we cannot live anywhere else but Earth, not with our current technology and price tags.
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I don't know what the cruising speed is but one must be alert or have radar developed that would veer a ship away from debris or have a protective super skin or protected by a force field like that of Star Trek.

They have a long long ways to go before I ride
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Space is mostly empty. You could fly through the asteroid belt and not see an asteroid for instance.

Still you a point hitting something even at relatively low speeds could kill the crew before they knew there was something to hit.
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11:11 here
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that means they have prob. had it up and running for about 40 yrs.
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They have had better than this for 20 years.
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I don't know what the cruising speed is but one must be alert or have radar developed that would veer a ship away from debris or have a protective super skin or protected by a force field like that of Star Trek.

They have a long long ways to go before I ride


Space is mostly empty. You could fly through the asteroid belt and not see an asteroid for instance.

Still you a point hitting something even at relatively low speeds could kill the crew before they knew there was something to hit.
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Space is not mostly empty, you've made one huge assumption. And it's incorrect. How do you think PLASMA engines could work if space was truly empty? How many of you understand plasma and how plasma engines even work? He obviously doesn't.
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I don't know what the cruising speed is but one must be alert or have radar developed that would veer a ship away from debris or have a protective super skin or protected by a force field like that of Star Trek.

They have a long long ways to go before I ride


Space is mostly empty. You could fly through the asteroid belt and not see an asteroid for instance.

Still you a point hitting something even at relatively low speeds could kill the crew before they knew there was something to hit.
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I've never been out in space so I don't know how empty space is from here to Mars

People have been hit on the head by a small meteorite. Odds are atrocious
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I don't know what the cruising speed is but one must be alert or have radar developed that would veer a ship away from debris or have a protective super skin or protected by a force field like that of Star Trek.

They have a long long ways to go before I ride


Space is mostly empty. You could fly through the asteroid belt and not see an asteroid for instance.

Still you a point hitting something even at relatively low speeds could kill the crew before they knew there was something to hit.

I've never been out in space so I don't know how empty space is from here to Mars

People have been hit on the head by a small meteorite. Odds are atrocious
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I wasn't talking about meteors or asteroids. Although they are just plasma cooled down and turned into crystalline structures and various compounds, depending on the composition. There are also plasma out there, which all have magnetic fields which requires an electrical current and emit all sorts of wavelengths and frequencies of EM radiation.

I would laugh if they attracted a meteor into their own ship. As long as people continually deny the magnetic fields and electrical currents that are in space, how can we ever explore the universe? 99.9% of the universe is in the state of plasma, deal with it. No need to deny it simply because you don't understand it, the information is free.
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then we use mars as a sling and intermitant bursts from the engine to attain speeds that migh be a tenth light speed. Alpha centuri could be only 20 years trip time?

My, wouldnt that be wonderful?
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I wasn't talking about meteors or asteroids. Although they are just plasma cooled down and turned into crystalline structures and various compounds, depending on the composition. There are also plasma out there, which all have magnetic fields which requires an electrical current and emit all sorts of wavelengths and frequencies of EM radiation.

I would laugh if they attracted a meteor into their own ship. As long as people continually deny the magnetic fields and electrical currents that are in space, how can we ever explore the universe? 99.9% of the universe is in the state of plasma, deal with it. No need to deny it simply because you don't understand it, the information is free.
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As with everything, we will discover that cold plasma also exists..cold fusion/hot fusion

Everything seems to work in numbers beyond one
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Another place that the human race can go to and subsequently fuck up....HURRY UP 2012!
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Sad. Dont worry be happy.
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I'm sure all the homeless families and people without jobs are thrilled about this too!

I dunno......not taking care of our planet and its people first always perplexed me.

I know....'we have to make plans for the future and explore our cosmos' but, if we're having so many problems in the 'now' how can we possibly trust them to know what they're doing for later?

Who cares about Mars (for now)? I mean really! I won't benefit by this. Only the Elite, the rich (investors) and the famous will. The journey into space isn't for the common folk so....what's this all about? It's wasteful spending right now for Nova Scotia or NASA.
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mankind will be inhabiting Mars in 50 years give or take a decade. the reason why? we are killing this planet, and because we can.





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