Confessions of the Illuminati, Ask and I Will Tell What I Know

It's been a while, but if op is still checking in, here's my concern:

Isn't the crucifixion a lie? Used as a ploy to get a majority to worship the constant sacrifice of purity/human sacrifice?

To have followers rely on an exterior "savior", as the attractor to channel "followers" to the "peak of the pyramid" you speak of?

The significance of "Christ" being "nailed" into position, on the sign of the cross, to fool followers into worshiping this pre-christian symbol of the "ancient secret doctrine"?

Thanks.

Another few quick ones.

So you say your "turning the other way", yet you seem to have much concern for your quest in discovering the Yorks, and still venerate respect towards Ahriman, I pick up some sarcasm in your references to "the blood of christ" as well.

Could you convince me you're actually trying to do something, rather than come off like you're using your "turn to good" as a means of getting people to participate in what seems like assisting you to find your goal?

Also, you say there is "no escape" from this reality system. But what if you refuse all masters? What if you make "your own way" that is neither extreme in duality? That liberation beyond the containment is a narrow passage, and gets to feel impossible with so many "saviors" and "gods" attracting one, but is possible when you ignore the false light in the many astral "heavens and hells".

Any response from anyone would be valuable.

I think if you refuse all masters one will be chosen for you. Middle of the road is never good. Be either hot or cold. Never lukewarm.

I think if you refuse all masters one will be chosen for you. Middle of the road is never good. Be either hot or cold. Never lukewarm.

In this case, I disagree. I feel a master is forced onto you if you're too hot or too cold. If you refuse all masters, how can one be forced onto you? If you don't give them a leg to stand on, how can thy ever hold anything over you?

My lukewarmness could be described as mild motion, accountable love, responsibility for my actions. Not too much indulgent love, verging on self-rightousness, not being brooding, or self-serving.

The "middle way" seems to be one where no one can claim mastery or power over you, imo.

I'm tired of humanity and wish to get the ball rolling so here goes...

Here are some of the numerous things I wish to confess:

1. In the 70s and prior, members of the Illuminati used a certain item to identify themselves. If you had a male relative with a basement full of any one item and you didn't know why, now you know. I'm not talking a few shelves, I'm talking at least a room-sized section of the basement full of nothing but the same item. It would be a type of item that is easily purchasable. Whenever the member needed to gain access to events, they would show the item in their possession to gain entry. They were involved in so many clandestine operations that they were unable to possibly consume the many packages they bought. Hence, they would store them, out of sight, in the basements of their homes.

I know exactly what particular item was used. I don't wish to fully disclose now, because I would like to see if anyone comes forward with that information on their own.

This same item has popped back up on the store shelves with the very same packaging that was used in the 70s which leads me to believe it is very possible that it is being used as an identifier again.

I'm tired of humanity and wish to get the ball rolling so here goes...

Here are some of the numerous things I wish to confess:

1. In the 70s and prior, members of the Illuminati used a certain item to identify themselves. If you had a male relative with a basement full of any one item and you didn't know why, now you know. I'm not talking a few shelves, I'm talking at least a room-sized section of the basement full of nothing but the same item. It would be a type of item that is easily purchasable. Whenever the member needed to gain access to events, they would show the item in their possession to gain entry. They were involved in so many clandestine operations that they were unable to possibly consume the many packages they bought. Hence, they would store them, out of sight, in the basements of their homes.

I know exactly what particular item was used. I don't wish to fully disclose now, because I would like to see if anyone comes forward with that information on their own.

This same item has popped back up on the store shelves with the very same packaging that was used in the 70s which leads me to believe it is very possible that it is being used as an identifier again.




After only reading the 1st post of this thread, I know exactally of what you speak.

In the 70s it was model cars. Near perfect replicas of sports cars of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. All about a foot long and a few inches tall.

Swastika or cross?

He uses both in this pic:

[link to library.thinkquest.org]


Bingo. It's the iron cross. Now if someone produces the correct version of this symbol the Illuminati will have some of what they have been searching for...

I will go back and forth between saying they and we. That's part of my nature.

To answer the question "how do you know if you are of the Scottish or York Rites":

Many of the Scottish Rite have defining physical characteristics since we are part of the Fallen. Myself, I have a forked tongue.

The York Rite descendants do not possess these obvious physical traits. Most of them know who they are through oral history and through the artifacts they have been given as inheritance.

I'm tired of humanity and wish to get the ball rolling so here goes...

Here are some of the numerous things I wish to confess:

1. In the 70s and prior, members of the Illuminati used a certain item to identify themselves. If you had a male relative with a basement full of any one item and you didn't know why, now you know. I'm not talking a few shelves, I'm talking at least a room-sized section of the basement full of nothing but the same item. It would be a type of item that is easily purchasable. Whenever the member needed to gain access to events, they would show the item in their possession to gain entry. They were involved in so many clandestine operations that they were unable to possibly consume the many packages they bought. Hence, they would store them, out of sight, in the basements of their homes.

I know exactly what particular item was used. I don't wish to fully disclose now, because I would like to see if anyone comes forward with that information on their own.

This same item has popped back up on the store shelves with the very same packaging that was used in the 70s which leads me to believe it is very possible that it is being used as an identifier again.




After only reading the 1st post of this thread, I know exactally of what you speak.

In the 70s it was model cars. Near perfect replicas of sports cars of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. All about a foot long and a few inches tall.


read on. she was speaking of packages of Ludens cough drops.

So assuming this has been going on for a while, how many more generations can you interbreed until it's over?

With no diverse genetic code inflowing then the "ludens" are a genetic dead end.

How about cloning? No doubt that book "in his image..?" from the 1970's would have produced some kid in their early 30's by now....

Who is to say that the York's didn't just hide in numbers, but just bred out to the population?

Have you always been a dead genetic?

Sorry, cough drops don't fit what the OP is talking about.
Perhaphs, OP is thinking of a differnet object, and its possible different lodges or groups used different objects.

But, I know of two old men, both very rich and very connected. One family, one not, who both had a basement full of these model cars. Not cheap ones either, real high end stuff like $50 to $200 each (1970s money).

Bingo. It's the iron cross. Now if someone produces the correct version of this symbol the Illuminati will have some of what they have been searching for...

I will go back and forth between saying they and we. That's part of my nature.

To answer the question "how do you know if you are of the Scottish or York Rites":

Many of the Scottish Rite have defining physical characteristics since we are part of the Fallen. Myself, I have a forked tongue.

The York Rite descendants do not possess these obvious physical traits. Most of them know who they are through oral history and through the artifacts they have been given as inheritance.

Does Rh negative blood have anything to do with this?

I wish that we could have this discussion without the constant pokes to my religious beliefs and faith in Jesus Christ. I have stated my acceptance of the Christian view many, many times and stated my faith in Jesus Christ more boldly than some would dare. I realize that I am not without fault and this realization is part of what has allowed me to accept what Jesus so freely gave. I know personally the power of the blood of Jesus Christ that is why I repeatedly stated that Ahriman is repelled by it. I am ever astonished at the mercy of Jesus Christ that is extended to even sinners such as myself.

I have tried many times to avoid the constant religious banter that occurs in these threads but am willing to accept some of it since some of these things are of a spiritual nature.