WHAT!: Jordan asks Canada to seize Dead Sea scrolls | |
Aquarius 7
User ID: 842372 United States 01/02/2010 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting thread, Neutron. . . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
ANNONYMOUS User ID: 825313 United States 01/02/2010 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seeing as the exhibition started 6/27 and the Jordanians did not join the PA in its earlier request. And given the Hague portion cited as regards protecting these antiquities from damage as a result of hostilities it would appear as if the Jordanians know a war is about to commence and are prophesying that Israel may be severely damaged without predicting the outcome. That at least is what I see out of this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 802143 Canada 01/02/2010 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seeing as the exhibition started 6/27 and the Jordanians did not join the PA in its earlier request. And given the Hague portion cited as regards protecting these antiquities from damage as a result of hostilities it would appear as if the Jordanians know a war is about to commence and are prophesying that Israel may be severely damaged without predicting the outcome. That at least is what I see out of this. The dead sea scrolls are an AWESOME exhibit @ the rom, I hope Canada keeps them!!!lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 855057 United States 01/03/2010 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dead Sea Scrolls are Christian. What does Jordan what with them anyway? Does it want to destroy them? This part of the world has been destroying Jewish and Christian artifacts for years. |
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II-Neutron
(OP) User ID: 836693 Canada 01/03/2010 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does Jordan care about the Dead Sea Scrolls? Jordan is muslim. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 855057The Dead Sea Scrolls are Christian. What does Jordan what with them anyway? Does it want to destroy them? This part of the world has been destroying Jewish and Christian artifacts for years. Because they are valuable, it gives Jordan the opportunity to exercise it's jurisdiction, and give them a reason to sight the conventions as they are. It a damming thing to relations with the east, and in a diplomatic way they have brought Canada to the point that legally we must respond. I wonder how they communicated this to the gov. It could be used to show how even Canada is against them we can't even agree to the conventions we ares suppose to recognize and uphold. Not that I think Jordan's claim is a solid one. [email protected] By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 833999 Canada 01/03/2010 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
II-Neutron
(OP) User ID: 836693 Canada 01/03/2010 05:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a Canadian, I hope that Canada agrees to hold the scrolls but have absolutely NOTHING to do with the process to decide who is the owner of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 833999When the process is over, Canada should turn the scrolls over. Where would we derive the authority to hold these documents for any more than the agreed upon exhibit and or whatever they agree to IE:storage, study, conservation, cataloging, imagining who knows...? But above and beyond this what can we say? Convene to get a ruling on the matter in like a day or two? I think not. How can we act to determine a crime was committed by Israel, and if we did how could we respond with enforcement of the Hague Convention, in the manner that Jordan asks of us? Some one is going to get no honor in this matter. Jordan thinks it's clever I bet. Where is the Authority derived from : "The Cultural Property Export and Import Act, Canada's own legislation to enact the Hague Convention, states: “If the government of a State Party submits a request in writing to the Minister for the recovery and return of any cultural property that has been exported from an occupied territory of that State Party and that is in Canada in the possession of or under the control of any person, institution or public authority, the Attorney-General of Canada may institute an action in the Federal Court or in a superior court of a province for the recovery of the property by the State Party.”" So we got to ROM: "in the event that the Attorney-General institutes legal action to recover such property, “The court may … order that the property in respect of which the action has been taken be turned over to the Minister for safe-keeping and conservation pending final disposition of the action.”" Sticky stuff. If we did this you think others states would be happy to do cultural exchanges with us? [email protected] By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11 |
9teen.47™
User ID: 855970 United Kingdom 01/03/2010 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel argues that the short-term, temporary exhibition of scrolls in another country does not constitute “exportation” under the Hague Convention, and that all the scrolls in its possession are part of Jewish heritage. Quoting: II-NeutronIf Canada is wise it will use the "get out" clause. Otherwise it might have problems. SOMEBODY ANGRY?... [link to www.chick.com] Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 01/03/2010 05:32 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
chrion777 User ID: 846319 United States 01/03/2010 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does Jordan care about the Dead Sea Scrolls? Jordan is muslim. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 855057The Dead Sea Scrolls are Christian. What does Jordan what with them anyway? Does it want to destroy them? This part of the world has been destroying Jewish and Christian artifacts for years. The dead sea scrolls are not Christian, they are Jewish. They were written 150-200 years before Jesus. |