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Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?

 
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Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?
Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?

Why? You know the truth must surface eventually, and then your kid realizes that you lie to them and start wondering what other lies you've told them.

Your credibility is shot and then you wonder why you have trouble with your kid.

So when I found out all these lovely entities like the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny and Santa were lies, I asked, "So Jesus is a lie too?"

"No dear, that story's different. IT'S real."

Huh? Huh? Huh? "Why??? How?? Show me the proof!!"

"Well, you just have to have faith that it's true." So, parental unit just lost all credibility and now says TRUST ME. THIS story's TRUE.

The truth is that the Santa story has less holes - and a better chance of being accurate than the Big J myth.

All parents should cease and desist with the chicanery and superficial crap. WTF were you thinking, or were you thinking at all?
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12/24/2009 11:38 AM
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Yeah, just like I thought.

Total silence b/c you all know it's wrong and you remember when it happened to you too.

And then you do it to your kids b/c it was done to you. That's realllllly sicko, like abuse.

Stop the insanity already. It's just more twisted sheeple bullshit and control.
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12/24/2009 11:45 AM
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It's the kids first lesson in knowing that not all things we are told is true. Santa Claus is a lesson in life.
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Tend to agree with you. I was just commenting to my wife this AM, that it was annoying to me that the news is giving "Santa" updates as if it is real news.

Well, I guess that the news doing this is ultimately not out of character, nor does it deviate from the daily practice of reporting mostly BS as fact. But, still it annoys me that they do this.

I could go into all sorts of implications but, now is not the time. Just wanted to comment on the news perpetuation this nonsense.
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Yeah, just like I thought.

Total silence b/c you all know it's wrong and you remember when it happened to you too.

And then you do it to your kids b/c it was done to you. That's realllllly sicko, like abuse.

Stop the insanity already. It's just more twisted sheeple bullshit and control.
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Sounds like someone just found out Santa's not real...

tissue
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OP, the same thing happened to me too, and since then i'm questioning everything, always being critical when someone is present me with information. I'm actually quite thankfull for this, because it makes me who i am :P
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Geez I feel sorry for you all, you've forgotten what it's like to be a kid.
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Maybe for the fun of it?

Ever hear of imagination and make believe?
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I agree with OP. Its a bad way to teach your child that lieing is ok.
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Yeah same thing as religion.
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Thanks for your responses everyone! This is a real sticking point for me b/c it primes kids to live in a world of lies at a tender young age.

AC476386 - Imagination and make believe is making mud pies and drawing and stuff like that. Lies are diff.

AC848541 - A very good point - it DID make me who I am - always questioning and looking for underlying details in what wasn't said, instead of just hearing what was said. That was good b/c I soon realized my family life was full of lies, as was my brainwashing - er - education, and pretty much everything else.

For that, I am quite thankful, but it's pretty lonely being awake when so many others aren't at that young age. And you dare not say a word to anyone else - ouch - branded as a weirdo. LOL

That's why I like GLP - so many awake.

Check out the David Dees illustration on [link to www.rense.com] today. It illustrates the confusion created by these Santa myths IMHO.
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Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?

Why? You know the truth must surface eventually, and then your kid realizes that you lie to them and start wondering what other lies you've told them.

Your credibility is shot and then you wonder why you have trouble with your kid.

So when I found out all these lovely entities like the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny and Santa were lies, I asked, "So Jesus is a lie too?"

"No dear, that story's different. IT'S real."

Huh? Huh? Huh? "Why??? How?? Show me the proof!!"

"Well, you just have to have faith that it's true." So, parental unit just lost all credibility and now says TRUST ME. THIS story's TRUE.

The truth is that the Santa story has less holes - and a better chance of being accurate than the Big J myth.

All parents should cease and desist with the chicanery and superficial crap. WTF were you thinking, or were you thinking at all?
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Once people swallow the jesus bullshit lie, they
will stupidly believe anything.

christurds are some really, really dumb shits.


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It's called conditioning the dumb
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Re: Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?
is it so wrong to let a child have wishes and dreams?

i feel very sorry for you all
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is it so wrong to let a child have wishes and dreams?

i feel very sorry for you all
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Wishes and dreams are one thing. Lies and deception are another.

As related to Santa et al., they are wishes and dreams for STUFF. Lots and lots of STUFF.

I equally feel sorry for you.
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AS an adult who loved Santa, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, etc. I totally agree, NOW! Yes, I enjoyed these characters because I benefited. But, now I have issues with it too.

Make believe and imagination....yeah but then why not tell the children it's make believe just like you tell them about cartoons not being real?

Luckily, I don't have children of my own because I don't think I will tell them these things are real. I'd probably hype up the fantasy but they'd know the tooth fairy is not real. I'm the tooth fairy. I'm Santa. I'm the Easter bunny.
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Re: Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?
Yeah, just like I thought.

Total silence b/c you all know it's wrong and you remember when it happened to you too.

And then you do it to your kids b/c it was done to you. That's realllllly sicko, like abuse.

Stop the insanity already. It's just more twisted sheeple bullshit and control.


Sounds like someone just found out Santa's not real...

tissue
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Yes, looks like. And totally missed the point of the whole thing.

Santa Claus is clearly under severe attack this year. The powers and the scroogish idiots are trying to take joy and compassion out of Christmas. Actually, Christmas will be next.

Scrooge them!!!
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Hmmm...one could say that it teaches creativity, fantasy and encourages many to find self-expression.
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Re: Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?
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... for CONTROL ...
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... usually easier to threaten gift-withholding in the name of a fictional character than to actually parent/mentor a child ...
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Re: Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?
I totally agree that parents lying to their kids about Santa and the other fairy tale characters sets the kids up to lie themselves. Whats funny is how most parents rationalize the lie one way or another.
I will have to say you are flawed in comparing the story of Santa, etc.. to that of Yeshua. While Yeshua story may have been altered over the years, there is actual accounts of his existence. Santa Claus on the other hand, loosely based on Roman Catholic's St Nicholas and a creation of the Coca Cola company. Coca Cola brought us the image we now know as Santa. From what I've read, St. Nick did deliver presents to children in the Nordic countries, but this individual never traveled the world and has been dead for centuries (i've heard dark versions of this same tale). Very few say Yeshua is alive and kicking, just that he'll return, which could very well be fantasy.
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Hmmm...one could say that it teaches creativity, fantasy and encourages many to find self-expression.
 Quoting: Winningjob


You can encourage all these things in children without lying to them.
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is it so wrong to let a child have wishes and dreams?

i feel very sorry for you all
 Quoting: Aileana
I agree with you, Aileana. I believed in both Santa and the tooth fairy when I was a little child, and I was not harmed in any way by these beliefs. That's the magic of childhood which adults can never quite re-capture.

There are so many sourpusses around today who want to deprive children of their childhood. Shame on these people!
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"Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny and Santa"

What if when you tell the children the tooth fairy left the quarter under your pillow and you know you are the tooth fairy at that time and when the child gets older you tell them that you were the tooth fairy so you are not lying and the child had some fun imagining things?

Same with Santa and the Easter Bunny?

I know they really get a kick out of seeing Santa tracked by NORAD

Mon Dec 10/9
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is it so wrong to let a child have wishes and dreams?

i feel very sorry for you all
I agree with you, Aileana. I believed in both Santa and the tooth fairy when I was a little child, and I was not harmed in any way by these beliefs. That's the magic of childhood which adults can never quite re-capture.

There are so many sourpusses around today who want to deprive children of their childhood. Shame on these people!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2963


I can tell you that i was very upset with my parents for the lie when i was a child. You can encourage imagination without lies and deception!
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EGAD, I KNEW YOU'D SHOW UP CREEPY RUSS. Don't you ever sleep or something?

To the other contributors here:

So, the radar reports about Santa's sleigh are lies?

And when the radar reports begin telling us Jesus is coming in, then we shall believe that?

I DO believe in a creator, but the same questions that apply to Santa apply to Jesus and the answers do not ring true for either one of them.

Like, how does Santa/Jesus see everyone all the time and know what they are doing?

If I go against Santa/Jesus, I will be punished.

Santa/Jesus love me because someone told me so and there's lots of books/songs to back it up so it's fact!
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Santa is in Pakistan at the moment
[link to www.noradsanta.org]


Mon Dec 10/9
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Hmmm...one could say that it teaches creativity, fantasy and encourages many to find self-expression.


You can encourage all these things in children without lying to them.
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I was going to say that is true, but then I realized if you had your way there would be no more talking anything and cartoons would go away and all the cool things I enjoyed as a child you want to take away from me. NO thanks, I enjoy talking toilet paper, talking syrup, santa clause, bunnies that make me cry and fake cartoons that seem to have adventures..>GOD BLESS Bozo the clown, Barney and the Pink Panther.
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is it so wrong to let a child have wishes and dreams?

i feel very sorry for you all
I agree with you, Aileana. I believed in both Santa and the tooth fairy when I was a little child, and I was not harmed in any way by these beliefs. That's the magic of childhood which adults can never quite re-capture.

There are so many sourpusses around today who want to deprive children of their childhood. Shame on these people!


I can tell you that i was very upset with my parents for the lie when i was a child. You can encourage imagination without lies and deception!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 847351
By the time I was told the truth, I had already suspected it. The truth came as a mild shock to me, but I never resented my parents for it. I realized it was their way of making Christmas fun for me.

Would Christmas be as much fun for a kid who didn't believe in Santa Claus?
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EGAD, I KNEW YOU'D SHOW UP CREEPY RUSS. Don't you ever sleep or something?

To the other contributors here:

So, the radar reports about Santa's sleigh are lies?

And when the radar reports begin telling us Jesus is coming in, then we shall believe that?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 848526


Does this Jesus character bring Legos?
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EGAD, I KNEW YOU'D SHOW UP CREEPY RUSS. Don't you ever sleep or something?

To the other contributors here:

So, the radar reports about Santa's sleigh are lies?

And when the radar reports begin telling us Jesus is coming in, then we shall believe that?

I DO believe in a creator, but the same questions that apply to Santa apply to Jesus and the answers do not ring true for either one of them.

Like, how does Santa/Jesus see everyone all the time and know what they are doing?

If I go against Santa/Jesus, I will be punished.

Santa/Jesus love me because someone told me so and there's lots of books/songs to back it up so it's fact!
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Yeshua is not omnipotent, God is. Yeshua might have been God in the flesh, though i personally don't believe that story. Also going against Yeshua or God doesn't mean you will be punished. Depending on the context of what you are going against. Murder is damaging to your soul just happens to be part of the ten commandments. Come on even the story of Harry Potter teaches you that it takes murder to break your soul into pieces.
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Re: Why Do Parents Perpetuate the LIE of Santa Claus (and other fictitious characters)?
Our family has never done the benevolent super hero thing such as Santa or the Easter Bunny. But we haven't avoided it either, with the exception of the Tooth Fairy.

We clearly communicated that we were reading "stories" about Santa; that the person at the mall was "dressed up" like Santa; that reindeer exist, but that they cannot fly; ETC. This way the fun can happen wihtout us telling lies. It was quite easy. We did it the same way one deals with Spiderman or other "super heros" - benevolent or not. Same goes for the Easter Bunny, and after about age four, they got to play the role as well - doing benevolent things for others playing as Santa, the bunny, etc.

As for the tooth fairy, we didn't do that one at all. We created a tradition where the child sells their tooth at an "auction" type family meeting. The highest bidder got the tooth, and the person who lost the tooth felt special. The currency was not always US dollars. Sometimes it was treasured marbles, or a favorite toy, or even a CD. Mom and Dad would reimburse half the monetary value to the person "winning" the tooth. My now adult children have continued this tradition in their own families.





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