THE SIGN-April 8th 2005, Rare Solar Eclipse, Total/Annular Eclipse

nothing rare about it.....

Thanks for the info

is april 8 satanic day of the masters?

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I will be watching.

We recall that St. Malachy=s motto, “of the Half Moon”, for John Paul I refers both to the timing of his birth and his death. Likewise, might Malachy’s title for Karol Wojtyla ― “of the Solar Eclipse” ― relate not only to the date of his birth, but in some fashion foreshadow the timing of his death or abdication? The Total Eclipse close after John Paul II´s death may portent something dramatic to happen as related to St.Malachy´s Prophecy connecting the Pope to an Eclipse.
Also as different prophecies like Garabandal show Our present dead pope John Paul II´s ending of his reign supposedly will usher in “the end of the times”. What is certain, however, is that by the end of the current pope’s reign — a very definite end of the present times, or “era”, will have occurred. So Connecting St Malachy´s Eclipse to Garabandal´s Ushering in of a Turning Point in the History of the Whole World. It´s also interesting that 1st April was originally the beginning of the New Year up till 1582, when the Gregorian Calendar was introduced, and New Year´s Day was moved to January 1. The Pope did die on 1st April as all of the media correctly reported, but the Vatican officials held off an announcement of death till the 2nd of April so as not to embarrass the memory of John Paul II. So you could call this an April Fool´s joke on the people of the world by the Vatican through changing the day of the popes death. So this Ushering in of a NEW ERA on the traditional NEW YEARS DAY by the sign of the death of the Pope could have alot of merit. What will the Heavenly Sign of the eclipse bring on the 8th April 2005, something Dramatic and overwhelming, the whole world waits.
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[link to www.garabandal.com]

Thank you for the post! And for your comment, AC1399.

Blessings EveryONE,
YCS

"Conchita has been granted permission by Our Lady to announce the date of the miracle EIGHT DAYS in advance. With the present means of communication and travel, eight days are sufficient for people around the world to gather. The day of The miracle may be the last opportunity given us by God and may be also Our Lady´s last effort to save the world from the punishment already threatened."
Could for some reason Conchita has decided not to give the EIGHT DAY WARNING? Remember the original Fatima 3rd secret that Pope John Paul II revealed a few years ago? The 3rd secret supposedly only mentioned the unsuccessful assassinatation attempt on the Popes life in 1981, could it also have mention something about when Pope John Paul II was to actually die, then that would be a Great Warning Sign. Just as Conchita of Garabandal was told by the Madonna that the present Popes death would usher in the ´New Era´ or ´End Of The Times´? It´s all about tying the peices of the puzzle together, especially the Marian Visions. So the EIGHT DAY WARNING perhaps begins with the death of Pope John Paul II as THE SIGN that is specifically tied up with with the Fatima & Garabandal Visions.

Some time ago Conchita wrote, "The Blessed Virgin will not allow me to reveal the nature of the miracle although I already know it. Neither can I reveal the date of it, which I know, until eight days before it is to happen." Before The miracle takes place Our Lady has said that all mankind will receive a warning from heaven."
"The visionary Conchita says, Our Lady has promised a greater miracle in Garabandal so that all may believe the apparitions and be obedient to the message. "As the punishment which we deserve for the sins of the world is great, the miracle must also be a great one, for the world needs it." It will occur on a Thursday on the feast day of a saint devoted to the Eucharist, at 8:30 in the evening, and will last for about one quarter of an hour. It will also coincide with a great event in the Church."
[link to www.medjugorjeusa.org]

Could this Thursday 7th April local time in Spain around 8:30pm be the time? The Feast Day Of A Saint Devoted To The Eucharist-(the Sacrifice of Christs Death)? The celibration of St. John Baptist de la Salle(1651-1719) is on the 7th April, he died on Good Friday, the rememberance of Christ´s Death on The Cross. (Once convinced of his divinely appointed mission, John threw himself wholeheartedly into the work, left home and family, abandoned his position as canon at Rheims, gave away his fortune and reduced himself to the level of the poor to whom he devoted his entire life.) Conchita has admited in the past to have apparently looked at the calendar to find a reasonably unknown saint to use as an add-on to her cryptic message of the Miracle Day.
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Literal Translation

2 Th 2:9 His coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and miraculous signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:8 And then "the Lawless One" will be revealed, "whom" "the Lord" "will consume" "by the spirit of His mouth," and will bring to nought by the brightness of His presence. (Isa. 11:4) 9 His coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and miraculous signs and lying wonders, 10 and in all deceit of unrighteousness in those being lost, because they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. 11 And because of this, God will send to them a working of error, for them to believe the lie, 12 that all may be judged, those not believing the truth, but who have delighted in unrighteousness.

KJV

2 Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

KJV

Mar 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: 22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. 23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

Literal Translation

Mar 13:21 And then if anyone says to you, Behold, here is the Christ! Or, Behold, there! You shall not believe. 22 For false christs and false prophets will be raised, and they will give miraculous signs and wonders in order to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 23 But you be careful. Behold, I have foretold you all things.

***Beware what signs (miracles, signs, tokens, wonders, espec. ceremonially or supernaturally) and wonders (a prodigy, omen, miracle) you believe in***

All of the Marian apparitions are of demonic activity; there may be some truth to these sayings, but they are riddled with lies and deception.

With all due respect A/C 8810 you say:-"All of the Marian apparitions are of demonic activity; there may be some truth to these sayings, but they are riddled with lies and deception."

Obviously what your saying may be correct, but you need to understand one very important thing, the Almighty God Creator of heaven & earth is far bigger than anyones narrow-minded ideas of what is true and what is false. The Almighty uses both good and evil avenues to fulfill and complete his works of creation. If you say that the Roman Catholic Church institution is only based on corrupt and evil men trying to keep a blind hold over the worlds populous through signs and false teachings of religion. You can say the opposite that their are truly devout people who have a simple faith in God, no matter whether the avenue being used is truly false, the Almighty can use these faithful pure-heart people to reveal words of truth just like the very young children of Fatima & Garabandal, who were brought up in the catholic faith. ITS BY THEIR WORKS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM. Also remember as well their is alot of corrupt and evil people and teachings amongst the fundalmentalist Christian Churches(partically in the US) and a multitude of deceivers through certain teachings of false laying on of hands-fake healings to decieve the masses, to get their money, corrupt preachers and speaking in tongues, ect. Alot of catholics believe these things are of the devil in the pentecostals workings in their churches. You can point the finger to what is wrong and right in different groups, but the truth is the Almighty God has only ever presented himself as the LORD OF HISTORY and its out-workings, he has never presented himself as a Religious figure, its only men and woman that make him so.

I think it was Conchita who said the last pope (which was John Paul II) will be alive to see the miracle and the warning...this did not occur.
??? I think Garabandal is questionable...at best.

we know what is the roman catholic church, his purpose, who controls it and we know where their precious queen of heaven comes from.

AAM,

I do agree with you for the most part. Myself, being of not any "religion", only of The Faith in YESHUA, The Way, a Christian, not of any denomination (demonization-division), I believe only in the Word of YHWH, and am given Understanding through the HOLY SPIRIT.

If a statue were to speak to me, I would know that the entity behind it is demonic. If a marian figure appeared to me proclaiming herself as the "mother of god", as the rcc and many protestant/charismatic sects believe, I know the entity behind it is demonic; for Mary was the vessel in which our LORD and SAVIOUR came through, by the Power of the HOLY SPIRIT, yet she was fallible, just as much a sinner as myself, and she bore unto Joseph other children after YESHUA, and she died and was buried and did not ascend to the Throne of YHWH. If a word comes from one who worships statues, saints, crosses, prayer beads, etc etc, then I know that I had best rely on YHWH to show me which part is true, and which part is deception.

What struck me quite awhile back is this...if the majority are for something, I had better step back, get on bended knee and pray about it, because I could very well be following them into the pits. Through stepping back and diligently praying, willing to receive Truth regardless of how uncomfortable or how humiliated I may feel about my past conduct/sins, and seeking that Truth, the Understanding that has been given has been beyond anything I had ever expected. YHWH is Truth, and it is HE Who I look to, not to those who try to usurp HIS Authority and Power.

yeah you do right a/c 8810, pagans love their sun god, their queen of heaven, and their statues pieces of wood, obeliscs or whatever.

A/C 68 said "I think it was Conchita who said the last pope (which was John Paul II) will be alive to see the miracle and the warning...this did not occur.
??? I think Garabandal is questionable...at best."
-Well Conchita has been recorded saying in many places that Pope John Paul II will see these things from WHEREEVER HE WILL BE ON THAT DAY, whether that is on the earth or in heaven.

A/C 237 said
"we know what is the roman catholic church, his purpose, who controls it and we know where their precious queen of heaven comes from."
-Thats alot of assuming knowings their, like I´ve already said out of darkness light can and will shine. Like at the beginning of all things God the Most High stood in the darkness of the void of nothingness and proclaimed,"LET THERE BE LIGHT-AND THEIR WAS LIGHT OUT OF THE DARK EVILNESS". The Almighty God uses all things both good and evil to fullfil his purposes in his creation. If he for the hell of it wishes to make a motion-less statue of Mary or some other figure to speak true(or deceptive-like he quite often led Israel astray)prophecies to someone, then by God he will do it, the Almighty is bigger than the way of good and evil, right and wrong. Remember the tale of Baalam, God spoke his voice through an Ass-horse, just the same thing peoples, and he did it, because he could!

YHWH does not speak lies or deceptions. HE does allow (suffer) though, that evil entities (demons, even satan himself) to do so, that men´s hearts be revealed to the rest of mankind, and hopefully that revealed heart will Repent and turn to a Life of Righteousness in YESHUA.

YHWH is not both good and evil, for HE is Purely Good, Holy and True. But because HE gave mankind free-will, to either accept or to reject, to obey or to rebel, HE also allows, within certain limits, the influence of demonic/evil activity.

"YHWH does not speak lies or deceptions. HE does allow (suffer) though, that evil entities (demons, even satan himself) to do so, that men´s hearts be revealed to the rest of mankind, and hopefully that revealed heart will Repent and turn to a Life of Righteousness in YESHUA."
"YHWH is not both good and evil, for HE is Purely Good, Holy and True. But because HE gave mankind free-will, to either accept or to reject, to obey or to rebel, HE also allows, within certain limits, the influence of demonic/evil activity."

YAHWAY THE MOST HIGH GOD is way outside his own creation, no laws, rules, morality judgments of what is right and wrong, or judgements of what is good and evil apply to himself, his ways, thoughts and actions are so far above mere mortals that it cannot be truly contemplated. He is bound by no conceptions of anything, he is totally uninhibited in what he can and does do, he can and does anything he pleases and no repercussions come back on him, whether the world judges his outworkings and actions to be right or wrong, good or evil. Our thoughts on his morality, honesty, truthfulness, lying, giving life, or killing and destroying life(as he quite often did as shown partically in the Old testement) are meaningless to himself, he doesn´t care if we hate or love him, or believe or don´t believe in him, he is like an uncontrolable force of nature, WHO DOES WHAT HE WANTS WHEN HE WANTS HOW HE WANTS, and no one, I repeat NO ONE in all of his creation can stop him.

AAM,

I do agree with you, but YHWH HIMSELF has declared that HE does not lie, nor does HE deceive, but that HE does allow deception to come unto the world through those who are not HIS. HE allows satan a little lee-way to do what he wants, because it all comes down to fulfilling YHWH´S Purpose.

If YHWH did not intend for us to know HIM, HE would not have sent HIS Word, come in the flesh, to live/tabernacle among men. HE would not have sent HIS Word nor HIS HOLY SPIRIT to teach those who are HIS. HE never would have given us HIS Word in written form, to be used for reproof, correction, admonishment and exhortation. But because HE Loves us, with a Love that is incomprehensible to man in it´s fulness, HE has made a way for men to come to HIM directly, to abide in HIS Only Begotten SON, and to KNOW HIM, not only through HIS Word, but through HIS SPIRIT.

Satan wants to keep men from knowing YHWH, from turning unto the Living Word of YHWH, YESHUA MESSIAH, and to keep them quibbling about this and that. Satan wants to keep men from obeying the Commandments of YHWH and holding the Testimony of CHRIST JESUS.

YHWH´S Thoughts are indeed higher than our thoughts, and HIS Ways are indeed higher than our ways. But if you seek, you will find; if you knock, it will be opened to you; if you ask, it will be given you, if it is in accord with HIS Purpose and not our own. If HIS HOLY SPIRIT abides in us, we CAN know HIM and HIS Purposes, because it is HE Who teaches us, not man.

Michael, do you see any significance of this date of the hybrid eclipse as it coincides with the next marraige in the Monarch?

We get a 50% eclipse in Miami.

Strange time. Quakes, volcanos, pope dead.

Would be very weird if we got a warning on the 8th.

There will be signs in the Heavens.

A/C 1177 says:-Michael, do you see any significance of this date of the hybrid eclipse as it coincides with the next marraige in the Monarch?

Some world leaders have lives which seem eerily to follow eclipses:

* Nelson Mandela was imprisoned, released and became President on the exact week of eclipses.
* Saddam Hussein launched and then lost the Gulf War on an extraordinary series of eclipse driven events. He gathered his troops on the borders of Kuwait on the lunar eclipse in late July 1990, two weeks before the solar eclipse on which date the UN mandate to oppose him was agreed. In the following January on the next Solar eclipse, the Gulf War was launched.
* Princess Diana died one day before a solar eclipse conjunct the potent, furiously angry Mars Pluto conjunction in Virgo in her chart.The previous eclipse in the same series 18.5 years before fell within days of the assassination of the Earl of Mountbatten, Prince Charles´ uncle.
* John F. Kennedy Jnr was killed in a plane crash days before the major 1999 solar eclipse, which was the same cycle as oversaw the death of his stillborn baby brother and indeed the assassination of his father, two cycles before.
[link to www.astrologycom.com]

For those of us not caught up in world events, the effects are likely to be much less dramatic or tragic, but they are significant if you really want to grow and develop as a human being.

Yasser Arafat fell ill at the same time as an eclipse.
2004 -- Oct. 28: ARAFAT FALLS ILL WITH STOMACH COMPLAINT and officials say he is "very, very sick." He is airlifted to a military hospital in Paris, where he lapses into a coma Nov. 4.,Died November 11, 2004
[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
The Same time as Total Lunar Eclipse on 10/28/04
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THE PATH OF ECLIPSE GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC RING OF FIRE! AND ONLY BECOMES FULL ECLIPSE SMACK-BANG RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING OF FIRE OVER THE OCEAN FOR ABOUT 45 SECONDS, COULD THIS HAVE A DRAMATIC UNSTABLE EFFECT/MAGNETIC PULL ON THE OCEANS/PLATES CREATING VOLCANOES-TIDAL WAVES?
A rare hybrid (annular-total) eclipse of the Sun, centered on 20:36 UT will be visible across the South Pacific including New Zealand, most of South America, all of Central America, and the southern half of North America. However, most of these regions will see a partial eclipse; the region of annularity touches land only in northern South America at sunset. Totality occurs at sea and at maximum lasts a mere 42 seconds.
The path of this event begins as an annular eclipse but it changes to total about 2200 km south of Tahiti. At maximum eclipse (UT), the duration of totality is 45 seconds. Unfortunately, the total portion of the track never crosses land. The path becomes annular again about 800 km west of Costa Rica. By the time the shadow reaches the coast of Costa Rica, the annular phase will already be 12 seconds and growing. After crossing Panama and Colombia, the central path ends in Venezuela where a 33 second annular eclipse will occur at sunset.
[link to skyandtelescope.com]

"By the time the shadow reaches the coast of Costa Rica, the annular phase will already be 12 seconds and growing. After crossing Panama and Colombia, the central path ends in Venezuela where a 33 second annular eclipse will occur at sunset."

This location finishes very close to the area know as the Bermuda Triangle! . The Devil´s Triangle is one of the two places on earth that a magnetic compass does point towards true north. Normally it points toward magnetic north. The difference between the two is known as compass variation. The amount of variation changes by as much as 20 degrees as one circumnavigates the earth. Oceans of ink have been spilt over the subject of the Bermuda Triangle, that apparent paranormal grab-bag of missing vessels (hundreds of ships and scores of planes), deviations in the magnetic field, abrupt outpourings of fog, UFO sightings far above the national average-and much, much more. A vast amount of pure speculation has accompanied these reports, the most controversial being that the Bahamas archipelago is comprised of the mountaintops and higher areas of the lost continent of Atlantis, sunk beneath these waters millennia ago.
[link to www.greatdreams.com]

The next 9 that mean newstart is :

7.4.2005 = 7+4+2+5= 18= 9

just before the Eclipse, will TOBA erupt!!!

Don´t forget to mention the position of Venus and Saturnus...
´ve bookmarked this page (very ´intersting´).

The Wings of RA are significant, indeed.

and the two lizards are getting married that day

[link to www.astropro.com]

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Most of us will be completely unscathed, but more than a few people will face freakish weather, flooding, heavy precipitation, tornadoes, thunderstorms and such. And some will have seismic upheaval to deal with as well. So be prepared and stay tuned in between the 1st and the 15th, just to be on the safe side.

A partial eclipse will be seen from much of North and South America and New Zealand, but the full eclipse will be visible only along a path from southeast of New Zealand across the Pacific Ocean to Central America: this is a primary zone of special vulnerability to tidal, seismic and meteorological disturbances from the 1st through the 15th of April. Other zones of vulnerability, as suggested by astro-locality mapping, include the Pacific coast of North America from Alaska down to northern California; the eastern tip of South America; Iceland, Japan, Indonesia and eastern Australia; the Middle East and central Russia; and along a north-south longitudinal from Ireland down through Spain and west Africa. (Be sure to check out the Mars and Saturn horizon and meridian lines on the astro-locality map.)

Why pay attention to eclipses? Besides covering up the our Celestial lights in a spectacular way, and perhaps frightening some people still to this day - what significance do eclipses really have in our lives? Why do they actually stimulate dramatic events, such as death, separations and even earth changes and upheavals?

The answer lies not only in the gravitaional affect on our bodies and our earth - but also in our collective subconscious, and in the astrological significance and potential within our own natal birth charts, as well as the charts of nations (especially those locations directly within the path of totality.)

The eclipse seems to stop time, stop energy and stop movement - while also focusing energy. Where once there was light filtering through the elemental forces of the zodiac and into the earth´s aura - there is suddenly darkness, nothingness - a temporary lack of input from the Sun or Moon that serves to bring our awareness closer to the energy of the Solar or Lunar season, and thus intensify it.
[link to www.mooncatsastrology.com]

An eclipse reference (from the Bible) goes like this:
And I behold when he had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the Sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the Moon became as blood. -- Revelation 6:12

This compelling passage is only one of a number of literary and historical CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ECLIPSES AND EARTHQUAKES. The Greek historian Thucydides, in writing about the Peloponnesian War, remarked about "earthquakes and eclipses of the Sun which came to pass more frequently than had been remembered in former times." On another occasion he noted "... there was an eclipse of the Sun at the time of a new Moon, and in the early part of the same month an earthquake." Another Greek writer, Phlegon, reported the following events:

In the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad, there was an eclipse of the Sun which was greater than any known before and in the sixth hour of the day it became night; so that stars appeared in the heaven; and a great earthquake that broke out in Bithynia destroyed the greatest part of Nicaea.

This interest in linking the two types of events by coincidence may have been attempts to derive some order out of the unpredictability of earthquakes, possibly a carryover from the celestial omens of the Babylonians. Oddly enough, this type of coincidence seems to persist. The earthquake in Iran on September 16, 1978, the most devastating one of that year and which killed more that 25,000 people, occurred just 3-1/2 hours before a total lunar eclipse was visible there.

These kinds of ominous events have played important parts in human history. When English poet John Milton, in Paradise Lost, wrote these lines
As when the Sun, new risen,
Looks through the horizontal misty air,
Shorn of his beams, or from behind the Moon,
In dim eclipse, disastrous twilight sheds
On half the nations and with fear of change
Perplexes monarchs

he may have been thinking of Charlemagne´s son, Emperor Louis. This European ruler was so "perplexed" by the five minutes of totality he witnessed during the eclipse of May 5, 840, that he died (some say of fright) shortly thereafter. The fighting for his throne ended three years later with the historic Treaty of Verdun, which divided Europe into the three major areas we know today as France, Germany, and Italy.

What is probably the most famous eclipse of ancient times ended a five-year war between the Lydians and the Medes. These two Middle Eastern armies were locked in battle when "the day was turned into night." The sight of this total solar eclipse (the date is fixed as May 28, 585 B.C.) was startling enough to cause both nations to stop fighting at once. They agreed to a peace treaty and cemented the bond with a double marriage. The eclipse was predicted by Thales, the celebrated Greek astronomer and philosopher, but the prediction was probably not known to the warring nations.
[link to www.earthview.com]


Eclipse Myths and Symbolism
The people of many cultures from all parts of the globe have developed various myths and legends about eclipses. Many believe that an eclipse is an omen of some natural disaster or the death or downfall of a ruler. Another pervasive myth involves an invisible dragon or other demon who devours the Sun during an eclipse. Many cultures have also developed superstitions about how to counteract the effects of an eclipse. The Chinese would produce great noise and commotion (drumming, banging on pans, shooting arrows into the sky, and the like) to frighten away the dragon and restore daylight. In India people may immerse themselves in water up to their necks, believing this act of worship will help the Sun and Moon defend themselves against the dragon. In Japan, the custom is to cover wells during an eclipse to prevent poison from dropping into them from the darkened sky. And as recently as the last century, the Chinese Imperial Navy fired its ceremonial guns during an eclipse to scare off the invisible dragon.

This ominous view of eclipses is not the only one. In Tahiti, for example, eclipses have been interpreted as the lovemaking of the Sun and the Moon. Even to this day, the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Tlingits of Arctic America believe an eclipse shows a divine providence: the Sun and the Moon temporarily leave their places in the sky and check to see that things are going all right on Earth. But regardless of the meaning given to them, eclipses will continue to occur, always obeying the regular timetables of celestial motions.
[link to www.earthview.com]

SOLAR ECLIPSE-April 8-2005...19degrees ARIES
ARIES - Fire, Immediate Action, Pioneering effort, Bravery, Personal Agenda, Inspiration

Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE-April 24-2005...4degrees SCORPIO
SCORPIO - Water, Emotion, Depth of Experience, Inner Landscape, Sexuality, Matters of Life and Death, Collective Resources
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