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Ten Commandments Abolished

 
WSOPNE777  (OP)

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12/11/2009 02:51 PM
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OP, again, you can not, by the Scriptures, prove that obeying the Ten Commandments of the God and Father of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is sin, however, I have given some examples that disobedience to Them is sin..whats' your reply to my claim?
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WSOPNE777 said

Hey slick you were made perfect..

Not because you get it right..He got it right

Right what you are doing here.......Are you not tryng to be a bit of a stumbling block?

I do the same thing when see somebody preach something I have not seen before

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OP, thanks for the compliment...however, you seem to be contrary. First you claim that I sin then you wont' tell me what sin is it that I do, now you are accusing me of being perfet...which is it?...while doing all this, you now accose me of being a stumbling block..you seem confused.
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I rest my case

Im preaching, I see what you do

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Law & Grace Don’t Mix

The law in regard to Freedom

This is what Jesus said to those in judgment of others

Matt 7:3-5
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. KJV

First, as a church we have got to stop judging ourselves and others.

Myths and Misconceptions that exist in Christianity that are a product of trying to mix Law and Grace.

Hos 4:6
6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
KJV

My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge, you have to rightly divide the word of truth. Instead of our doctrine lining up with the word of truth, we do it the way around….and try to make the word of truth line up with our doctrine.

Out of Gods Mouth

Prov 2:6
6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. KJV

Gal 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. KJV

What was the purpose of the Law?

To bring us to Christ, there is no reason to convict of sin without the knowledge of Jesus being the Christ.

And the Holy Spirit reveals that knowledge to us.

Revelation Knowledge


1 Cor 12:3
3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. KJV

and that no man can say Jesus is Lord , but by the Holy Ghost

so you must believe, look in John
John 8:24
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. KJV

Now read this

John 16:8
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: KJV

Now lets go back to Galatians

Gal 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Now our faith has been activated

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. KJV

We no longer need the Law. The law was our schoolmaster. It served its purpose.

Gal 5:18
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. KJV

Are you led by the Spirit?

Rom 8:6-9
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Right here are you in the Spirit?

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. KJV

Here is a personal question everyone should ask themselves

2 Cor 13:5
5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? KJV

Would you cry out Abba Father without the Spirit being in you?
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Now right here , I said all that, to say this, so that you to see the dangers in trying to keep the Law..Right here folks.
And im done

Blasphemy Of The Holy Ghost

By now you probably believe that we are once saved always saved or eternal security doctrine. Well, we are not.

That is why this message is so important, attaching Law to Grace is spiritually deadly. Many churches attach Law to Grace not realizing what there are doing.

The Unpardonable Sin

1 John 5:16
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
KJV

It is important to see that a brother can commit a sin unto death

Read what it says in 1 John, there is one sin that is unto death, it also says don’t even pray for this person, your wasting your time. Its all over for that person.

Matt 12:32
32And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
KJV

It says here you can speak against Jesus and still be forgiven, but he who speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven.

Now what does that mean? I don’t know anybody who would willing do that.

What did Holy Ghost come to do? To reveal Jesus as the Christ, right?

The unpardonable sin is what?

To go back under the law, making it so that Jesus going to Calvary was insufficient, and that you must keep the law also. That he died in vain!

lets go back to the book of Acts

Acts 15:10
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
KJV

They were talking about the Law, Remember? They were saying they or their fathers couldn’t keep the law. So why put that yolk on the gentiles? Only one one kept the law, and its not or you.

But read this!

Heb 10:26-29
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

If I had read verse 26 by it self, I would lose hope right there, give up and head to the bar, because your finished. BUT NOTICE THE COMMA!

Keep reading

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

NOW RIGHT HERE

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
KJV

DON’T ATTACH LAW TO GRACE

Now lets close with this good news.

In Heb 6:4-6 Kenneth Wuest a world renown bible scholar said that that this was not talking about Back Sliding. That this scripture was talking about going back under the previous system.

Well wait a minute, what is the previous system? To go back under the Law

We are gonna show ya…….

Heb 6:4-7
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
KJV

Well we truly hope you have received this message, we pray that you have in the name of Jesus of Nazereth……….Amen & Amen

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For some that want to see something great.........read what I sent you.....

we had a lot of negative interference, wonder where that came from?

there really is a good message there.......

My God bless you all
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12/11/2009 03:33 PM
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So you guys spent all this time derailing this message, that you had no clue what it was about yet, and got in the middle of me lifting up Jesus, to defend your Ten Commandments.......

legalist.
Hmmm


I didnt Just decide to take that way........this message has been on our School outreach for a year and a half.....go look for yourself.........

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I know its not milk, but you all choked on that meat....
for that I apologize
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I know its not milk, but you all choked on that meat....
for that I apologize
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Maybe I should have Preached "First Believe" first LOL


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We are saved by our belief, true.

But if Grace is all that matters, afterward, why did Messiah Himself tell those that he healed (essentially saving them) to 'go and sin no more'?

And if we are to not sin any longer...where do we go to define sin? Our own feelings, our own perceptions, only the words of Paul?

Or perhaps the written Word from the beginning to the end would be a better method of seeking righteousness.

'Go and sin no more'...sounds like there is still more work to be done in a believer's life than just getting saved.
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Somehow I missed your post, I didn't say that grace is all that matters, how you live is evidence of Grace.....do you see that..

here think about this.

If we truly knew, and i mean really knew and understood what Jesus did that day on the cross.

How could you possibly attach anything to what he did here?
What could we ever do to deserve what He did for us

NOTHING it was a free gift

He did it because he loved us. Man cannot really comprehend this, we can come close, but really we cant..........I mean , why did there have to be a 'shedding of blood' to cover sin?.........

Because that is what God tells us, and we accept that out of faith...right?...........But why blood?

Why did such a horrible thing have to happen to Gods Son?

If This is True, really True, which I believe it is, then you would spend every single second of the DAY AND NIGHT, preaching what God did for you, sending His son to Calvary.

Nobody can answer that but God

THEN, This would truly effect how live, walk, talk and confess everything........

Jesus knew we would sin again, if not physically then in thought and /or word.
do you see what I am getting at?

This message truly was interfered with terribly, so a lot of people lost where this was going

Ole' Slick (Satan) dose not want anybody to be set free.


Be careful with Paul thing, there is a real move against Paul's writings going through the Church, the Man inspired by Jesus himself, who wrote 2/3rds of the New Testament, it is a real attack on the Church today by Slick himself............or at least I wouldn't go there, The Word says he is the Apostle of the Gentiles, then He is the apostle to the Gentiles.....that's the way I look at it.

God wrote the book, that is all we have to go by

let me add something here, it all written for us, just not all to us.

For example,

Some of the bible was written to believers
some of it was written to non believers
some to men and some to women
some to Jews and some to Gentiles.....

you have to Rightly divide the Word

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Ole' Slick (Satan) dont want anybody to be set free.


Be careful with Paul thing, there is a real move against Paul's writings going through the Church, the Man inspired by Jesus himself, who wrote 2/3rds of the New Testament, it is a real attack on the Church today by Slick himself............or at least I wouldn't go there, The Word says he is the Apostle of the Gentiles, then He is the apostle to the Gentiles.....that's the way I look at it.

God wrote the book, that is all we have to go by

let me add something here, it all written for us, just not all to us.

For example,

Some of the bible was written to believers
some of it was written to non believers
some to men and some to women
some to Jews and some to Gentiles.....

you have to Rightly divide the Word
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Let me expound here

Now Jesus said this Himself.......


Matthew 15:24
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
KJV

Which is who..not Gentiles, He came to minister to Jews

now are we included? yes, but Paul ministered to the Gentiles

Romans 15:16
16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
KJV
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So you have to ask yourself, when reading the bible, who was this written to, and does this apply to me?

That is how you rightly divide the word as written in Timothy
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It is all written for you, just NOT all to you............





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