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Nice. Good work. About time people starting growing some balls on the back of climategate.



Copenhagen Eve; Danish Parliament's Chairman Publicly Attacks Climate Change Agenda


December 5, 2009 (LPAC)— On the eve of the scheduled COP15 Copenhagen climate summit, a climate policy faction-fight has broken out in the Danish government's own leading party, the Liberal Party (Venstre, in Danish), with the chairman of the parliament, Thor Pedersen, publicly expressing his skepticism about the extent of man-made climate change, and Danish climate legislation.

Pedersen told the major daily Berlingske Tidende, "You have to remember that these are theories. Some things are theories and some things are knowledge, and you have to take that into account when you put out a message. Is it something we know, or is it a theory?" Pedersen is questioning how much man influences climate change, and saying that climate legislation should not restrict individual freedom. "When I come home, I like to see all the lights on, and I will continue to do that," the Danish media are reporting he said at the meeting.

The debate inside Prime Minister Lars Loekke Rasmussen's Venstre party resulted in a postponement of an internal party vote on legislation to compel a homeowner to disclose how energy-efficient the house is, when it is put up for sale. Pedersen was backed up by other Liberal MPs at the meeting, who think that the climate change agenda has gone too far. They expressed disagreement with the government's climate policy.

Spokesmen for other parties are denouncing the chairman of the parliament's statements, with the Socialist People's Party climate spokesman saying that the effect could be compared to if Nancy Pelosi were to question climate change in the U.S. — that that would draw the U.S. climate change position into question.

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All the misguided, brainwashed fools arrive.


UN delegates take train to Copenhagen‎ - 14 hours ago

[link to www.abc.net.au]
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The goal at Copenhagen is the birth of the WEO.
Remember this.
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French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner will call for the creation of a World Environment Organization at the upcoming UN Conference on Climate Change in Copenhagen, the ministry said Friday.

Kouchner plans to propose the creation of the new UN body during curtain time of the climate change conference while meeting with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, the ministry said in a press briefing.

France regarded such an organization as an anchor for the 500-odd multilateral environmental agreements that are currently dispersed, said the ministry.

France believed that such an organization could also help implement the agreement that emerges from the Copenhagen conference, and hoped that the new UN body could be formed at the meeting, the ministry added.
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Britain and France are proposing to tackle climate change with a 30 billion US dollar environmental fund.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy made the announcement after joining the Commonwealth meeting in Trinidad and Tobago. Sarkozy said the money will be spent from 2010 to 2012. He also said that France will propose the creation a new UN body called the World Environment Organization, whose main task would be to implement the agreement that emerges from the Copenhagen meeting.
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French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner will call for the creation of a World Environment Organization at the upcoming UN Conference on Climate Change in Copenhagen, the ministry said Friday.

Kouchner plans to propose the creation of the new UN body during curtain time of the climate change conference while meeting with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, the ministry said in a press briefing.

France regarded such an organization as an anchor for the 500-odd multilateral environmental agreements that are currently dispersed, said the ministry.

France believed that such an organization could also help implement the agreement that emerges from the Copenhagen conference, and hoped that the new UN body could be formed at the meeting, the ministry added.
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Will fail miserably.
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Britain and France are proposing to tackle climate change with a 30 billion US dollar environmental fund.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy made the announcement after joining the Commonwealth meeting in Trinidad and Tobago. Sarkozy said the money will be spent from 2010 to 2012. He also said that France will propose the creation a new UN body called the World Environment Organization, whose main task would be to implement the agreement that emerges from the Copenhagen meeting.
[link to english.cctv.com]
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Will fail too.

China, India, Three Other Nations, Threaten Copenhagen Walkout

December 1 2009 (LPAC)--China, India, South Africa, and Brazil have signed a draft declaration which includes these nations' non-negotiable demands for the Copenhagen climate summit in December, and they threaten to walk out together, along with Sudan, if they are not met. The declaration was drafted by Beijing, and Prime Minister Wen Jiabao called a previously unannounced meeting in Beijing Nov. 27 with the outspoken Indian Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh, Brazilian Presidential Advisor Marcel Fortuna Biato, South African Environment Minister Buyelwa Sonjica, and the Sudanese representative of the G77 nations, who were in China for consultations.

After the meeting, Ramesh emphasized that the draft declaration includes agreement to walk out of Copenhagen, if necessary, to protect their national interests. "We will not exit in isolation. We will co-ordinate our exit if any of our non-negotiable terms is violated. Our entry and exit will be collective," Ramesh said. "This BASIC draft fully meets India's goals and aspirations. We hope it is made the basis of discussions at the conference." The "non-negotiables," he said, are that countries would never accept legally binding emissions cuts, unsupported mitigation actions, international measurement, reporting and verification of unsupported mitigation actions, or the use of climate change as a trade barrier, The Hindu reported Nov 29.

A Capitol Hill office told us accurately Tuesday, "This could make the whole thing a dead letter!"
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18 hours
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The first week is all for all the goons. Anyone from WWF or Greenpeace types included.

The clowns arrive via private jet in over a week.
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Good move on the pin. Thanks.

Will all due respect, i devote this pin for Steve McIntyre and his life's work. It's tough stuff to get your head around.

[link to www.climateaudit.org]

A fellow, with the help of others, helped expose the dodgy practices in scientific methodology long before "climategate" came to surface.

Cheers.
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Lets hope more people speaks up.
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The goal at Copenhagen is the birth of the WEO.
Remember this.
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...Yes..and the elite have gotten every single thing they have wanted..since the begining of time. They have gotten away with every lie..They just murder people in your face (JFK) and get away with it. They take down the twin towers leaving enough evidence of their guilt behind to shame any adult that buys into their story. They openly steal (2) presidential elections.. The current POTUS is not only a Muslim...and a super liar....he isn't even a citizen of the USA. Believe me. They will get their WEO and whatever else they want. You can't fight them with a pea shooter. They have to be physicaly rounded up (starting with the top 20 families that control us all) and forced to give up all they have taken.. And forced to reveal all of the knowledge they have hidden from us.. Anything short of (physicaly rounding them up) and arresting them for crimes against humanity is a total waste of time and effort. Waking more people up to the truth is not working. There are enough people awake now. And still they march forward with their evil plan.. Tell me.....I'm wrong.
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Steve McIntyre is just another fraud scientist who is trying to sell the story that Carbon Dioxide causes man made global warming.

Like Wigley, Mann, Jones, Trenberth etc.. he is just another sell out scientist!

..and I want to thump him too..
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ya know, when hitler was around he made the problem look like it was the jews fault. this time around tptb have made all of humanity into the bad guys.
i'll be honest, i was never too proud of the fact that i am human but i never thought humanity would be so gullable as to be brainwashed and fooled into thinking that by destroying itself the problem will go away.

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good thread. 5 stars.

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The carbon emission notion that is driving the current thrust for worldwide acceptance of carbon-trading schemes is now at a critical stage. The stakes are not so much for protecting the Earth, but, instead, for political domination of the planet.

There are several groups of the ruling elite on the planet; two of these are the strongest contenders for political world dominance. (Within all of the groups of ruling elite, there is some infighting.) The carbon-trading scheme is a very important piece on the chessboard. If the scheme is adopted as currently presented, one of the major contenders for global dominance will suffer serious damage to its cause, making its situation precarious.

The importance of the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) cannot be overstated. It is not just a conflict between supporters and opponents of the carbon trading notion. It is so critical to the political manoeuvring that some of the highest echelon ruling elite are being forced to show their hands in support of or opposition to the scheme.
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Anything short of (physicaly rounding them up) and arresting them for crimes against humanity is a total waste of time and effort. Waking more people up to the truth is not working. There are enough people awake now. And still they march forward with their evil plan.. Tell me.....I'm wrong.
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Your wrong, at least about: "There are enough people awake now."

If there were enough people awake now, we would already be seeing retaliation and anger in the streets, and the PTB with their families would be cowering in their gilded cages. But perhaps, just perhaps, we are close to having enough people waking up, because there seem to be underground rumblings and murmurs of riots. It seems to me that the PTB are feeling a bit of pressure and are trying to rush their agenda before outright revolt.
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good thread. 5 stars.

[link to www.flyingbuffaloes7.net]

The carbon emission notion that is driving the current thrust for worldwide acceptance of carbon-trading schemes is now at a critical stage. The stakes are not so much for protecting the Earth, but, instead, for political domination of the planet.

There are several groups of the ruling elite on the planet; two of these are the strongest contenders for political world dominance. (Within all of the groups of ruling elite, there is some infighting.) The carbon-trading scheme is a very important piece on the chessboard. If the scheme is adopted as currently presented, one of the major contenders for global dominance will suffer serious damage to its cause, making its situation precarious.

The importance of the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) cannot be overstated. It is not just a conflict between supporters and opponents of the carbon trading notion. It is so critical to the political manoeuvring that some of the highest echelon ruling elite are being forced to show their hands in support of or opposition to the scheme.
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what utter bsflag

infighting??? don't make me laugh too hard..

the only enemy you have is the people

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ice age info (Volcanoes Defrosted Ice Age)


[link to news.discovery.com] (Oct 2009)

Volcanoes Defrosted Ice Age


No one knows for sure what causes ice ages -- or kicks Earth climate out of them -- but scientists suspect wobbles in planet's orbit change the amount of sunlight hitting the surface enough to affect temperatures every 100,000 years or so.

Still, glaciers melted rapidly near the end of the last ice age, and CO2 levels in the atmosphere rose by 100 parts per million.

Uh OH
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The goal at Copenhagen is the birth of the WEO.
Remember this.

...Yes..and the elite have gotten every single thing they have wanted..since the begining of time. They have gotten away with every lie..They just murder people in your face (JFK) and get away with it. They take down the twin towers leaving enough evidence of their guilt behind to shame any adult that buys into their story. They openly steal (2) presidential elections.. The current POTUS is not only a Muslim...and a super liar....he isn't even a citizen of the USA. Believe me. They will get their WEO and whatever else they want. You can't fight them with a pea shooter. They have to be physicaly rounded up (starting with the top 20 families that control us all) and forced to give up all they have taken.. And forced to reveal all of the knowledge they have hidden from us.. Anything short of (physicaly rounding them up) and arresting them for crimes against humanity is a total waste of time and effort. Waking more people up to the truth is not working. There are enough people awake now. And still they march forward with their evil plan.. Tell me.....I'm wrong.
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Good stuff, I'd just start shooting them myself, but that's me.
"Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379
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Good move on the pin. Thanks.

Will all due respect, i devote this pin for Steve McIntyre and his life's work. It's tough stuff to get your head around.

[link to www.climateaudit.org]

A fellow, with the help of others, helped expose the dodgy practices in scientific methodology long before "climategate" came to surface.

Cheers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 834770



Steve McIntyre is just another fraud scientist who is trying to sell the story that Carbon Dioxide causes man made global warming.

Like Wigley, Mann, Jones, Trenberth etc.. he is just another sell out scientist!

..and I would like to thump him too..

test him out..

put in "global warming" into the search engine on his site and see for yourselves if he is a sellout or not..

Carbon Dioxide is not the enemy...

..but these "scientists" surely are..
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Britain and France are proposing to tackle climate change with a 30 billion US dollar environmental fund.

[link to english.cctv.com]
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wtf WHAT about they use their own DAMN MONEY, HUH????
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'Not Rearing Pigs' Business'
NIGEL JOHNSON-HILL, PARK FARM, LIPHOOK GU30 7JF

Rt Hon David Milliband MP
Secretary of State,
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA),
London SW1P 3JR

1st July 2007

Dear Secretary of State Milliband

My friend, who is in farming at the moment, recently received a cheque for £3,000 from the Rural Payments Agency for not rearing pigs. I would like to join the 'not rearing pigs' business.

In your opinion, what is the best kind of farm not to rear pigs on, and which is the best breed of pig not to rear? I want to be sure I approach this endeavour in keeping with all government policies, as dictated by the EU under the Common Agricultural Policy. I would prefer not to rear bacon pigs, but if this is not the type you want not rearing, I will gladly not rear porkers. Are there any advantages in not rearing rare breeds such as Saddlebacks or Gloucester Old Spots, or are too many people already not rearing these?

As I see it, the hardest part of this programme will be keeping an accurate record of how many pigs I haven't reared. Are there Government or Local Authority courses on this?

My friend is very satisfied with this business. He has been rearing pigs for forty years or so, and the best he ever made on them was £1,422 in 1968. That is - until this year, when he received a cheque for not rearing any.

If I get £3,000 for not rearing 50 pigs, will I get £6,000 for not rearing 100?

I plan to operate on a small scale at first, holding myself down to about 4,000 pigs not raised, which will mean about £240,000 for the first year. As I become more expert in not rearing pigs, I plan to be more ambitious, perhaps increasing to, say, 40,000 pigs not reared in my second year, for which I should expect about £2.4 Million from your department. Incidentally, I wonder if I would be eligible to receive tradable carbon credits for all of these pigs not producing harmful and polluting methane gas?

Another point: These pigs that I plan not to rear will not eat 2,000 tonnes of cereals. I understand that you also pay farmers for not growing crops. Will I qualify for payments for not growing cereals to not feed the pigs I don't rear?

I am also considering the 'not milking cows' business, so please send any information you have on that too. Please could you also include the current Defra advice on set aside fields? Can this be done on an e-commerce basis with virtual fields (of which I seem to have several thousand hectares)?

In view of the above you will realise that I will be totally unemployed, and will therefore qualify for unemployment benefits.

I shall of course be voting for your party at the next general election.

Yours faithfully

Nigel Johnson-Hill
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I can't wait! This is going to be fun to watch...all of this uproar in MY town!
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All the misguided, brainwashed fools arrive.


UN delegates take train to Copenhagen‎ - 14 hours ago

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See the hypocrisy ???

If they want to fight CO2 emissions they should have ridden Camels. Or a caravan of Elephants.
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ya know, when hitler was around he made the problem look like it was the jews fault. this time around tptb have made all of humanity into the bad guys.
i'll be honest, i was never too proud of the fact that i am human but i never thought humanity would be so gullable as to be brainwashed and fooled into thinking that by destroying itself the problem will go away.

TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.....
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iamwith
And when it becomes time to start rounding up the enemies of the planet(state), most will just try to live in ignorance, hoping that be licking the boots of the PTB, that will keep them one step further out from the maximum security camps. They will take their marc, live on the (minimum security)plantation that will be assigned and will do their best to keep vigilant to rat out anyone who doesn't have a brand/marc/tag to the planetary SS, so that by being a good little "Zonder Commando", that will give them the privilege of being exterminated last.
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Spokesmen for other parties are denouncing the chairman of the parliament's statements, with the Socialist People's Party climate spokesman saying that the effect could be compared to if Nancy Pelosi were to question climate change in the U.S. — that that would draw the U.S. climate change position into question.

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Nah that slime would rather screw one of her illegal workers than cross the bankers.
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If they want to fight CO2 emissions they should have ridden Camels. Or a caravan of Elephants.
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No they should do what they have planned for us. If they are too cowardly to kill themselves I will gladly pull the trigger for them, if asked. For a small fee of course.
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I don't think any one of us has a clue as to how far and wide the damage done to our society by these enviroMENTAL morons. Here in Oregon our state meteorologist was fired by the governor because he refused to get in line on the human global warming issue! He is just one of thousands I am sure who knew this was a farce tried to stand his ground ended up out of a job because he was resisting the brainwashing.

I really really want heads to roll I want someone held accountable for this crime against humanity. But thats the first lesson liberal aggressive aggrivators learn no one is ever held accountable so lie, deceive, mislead, ruin people ruin community's ruin all you want if you get caught in the lie Oh well.... OH wellllllllllllllllllllll....





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