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| Revbo
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 538751  United States12/02/2009 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 830704 United States12/02/2009 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Evil Twin
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| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  They actually seem to think that people are going to consult this database and avoid living in neighborhoods with "too many" gun owners. Are they insane? As if knowing that your law-abiding neighbor has a gun is even remotely a problem for anyone who isn't a pantywaste pinko commie. This is actually good, in a way. Besides guaranteeing more gun sales among the good guys, it will also guarantee that the pinkos stay out of decent, God-fearing American neighborhoods. Last Edited by Revbo on 12/02/2009 02:08 PM TANSTAAFL |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 832027  United Kingdom12/02/2009 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They actually seem to think that people are going to consult this database and avoid living in meighborhoods with "too many" gun owners. Are they insane? As if knowing that your law-abiding neighbor has a gun is even remotely a problem for anyone who isn't a pantywaste pinko commie. This is actually good, in a way. Besides guaranteeing more gun sales among the good guys, it will also guarantee that the pinkos stay out of decent, God-fearing American neighborhoods. "Unintended Consequences", eh?  |
| MakeMyDayPunk
User ID: 829960 United States12/02/2009 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scott Schurz Quoting: MakeMyDayPunk1900 S Walnut St Bloomington, IN 47401-7720 (812) 332-4401 Job: Hoosier Times, President I wonder if Scott owns a gun, and if not, I wonder how he feels about his own newspaper letting every rapist and burglar in the state of Indiana know that he's left his family defenseless. Unintended consequences, indeed. If you live in Indiana, don't wait. Make sure you get yourself a gun before they publish this list. You can pretty much guarantee you'll never have to use it, because all the criminals will be heading next door to rob your liberal neighbor. TANSTAAFL |
| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857 United States12/02/2009 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  over reaching to be sure now criminals who cannot legally get guns the STATE will help them profile houses to gain weapons on their next burglaries Dysfunction seems to be the new pc glad I am out of the cities-I may "suffer" because I am not sharing parking with walmart patrons but c'est la Vie! ************************************ fortitudo et spes ************************************ When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has. Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator +++++++++++++++ "Ego et Dominus sumus amici" +++++++++++++++ Ego et mea umbra +++++++++++++++ 'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Realeyesrealizereallies. C. Thread: GIRD uP as GRID Collapses Thread: Eugenics 101 (Page 27) Thread: Frankenfoods for YOU (Page 2) Thread: I Do Not Consent Thread: FOOD Thread: Cern Power___Colder than Space Thread: Hempilation Compilation Contemplation Thread: Harmonics and Healing (Page 35) Thread: Sarah's Nightmare (Page 10) Thread: Destination Maccabees Thread: Let's Play a GAME Thread: Throat Singing |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 713601 United States12/02/2009 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A gun on a yellow background with a red circle with a line drawn through it across the gun and a statement below: We do NOT believe in guns. Make that sticker available for people to put on their front doors ... that way the criminals would know who was unarmed and not likely to resist! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 794866 United States12/02/2009 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 832097 United States12/02/2009 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reminds me of the fake sticker ... one we should probably have printed up for real: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713601A gun on a yellow background with a red circle with a line drawn through it across the gun and a statement below: We do NOT believe in guns. Make that sticker available for people to put on their front doors ... that way the criminals would know who was unarmed and not likely to resist! That's effectively what the Herald-Times is doing. Unfortunately, all those unarmed people don't have a say in the matter. These journalists are so afraid of guns, and think that everybody who owns a gun is a potential threat to them, that they willingly and blindly endanger all the non-gun owning citizens of their own state. TANSTAAFL |
| CIAOp09
User ID: 683708 United States12/02/2009 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper. Quoting: Evil TwinAgreed "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison "Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance-- |
| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can this even be legal?? would not a gun owner, or even a non-owner have some grounds for legal action? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 794866One would assume gun registrations are public record, but there's a reason nobody has every published them before. See above. TANSTAAFL |
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| Evil Twin
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| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper. Quoting: CIAOp09Agreed No addresses, but how's this? Management Scott Schurz, Sunday Hoosier Times/Editor-in-Chief 812-331-4250 E. Mayer Maloney Jr., Publisher (812) 331-4251 Bob Zaltsberg, Editor (812) 331-4364 Todd Davidson, Digital Media Director (812) 349-1415 Cory Bollinger, Advertising Director (812) 331-4279 Laurie Ragle, Retail Advertising Manager (812) 331-4303 Tim D. Smith, Circulation Director (812) 331-4203 Brad Clarke, Production Manager (812) 331-4272 Kim Sutton, Human Resources Director (812) 331-4253 Brooke McCluskey, Marketing Manager (812) 349-1400 Newsroom Staff Bob Zaltsberg, Editor (812) 331-4364 Andrea Murray, Managing Editor (812) 331-4351 Bill Strother, Assistant Managing Editor, Projects & Business (812) 331-4265 J.J. Perry, Assistant Managing Editor, Digital (812) 331-4352 Chris Korman, Sports Editor (812) 331-4353 Janice Rickert, News Editor (812) 331-4347 David Snodgress, Photography/Video (812) 331-4365 TANSTAAFL |
| meagain User ID: 831330 United States12/02/2009 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| CIAOp09
User ID: 683708 United States12/02/2009 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can this even be legal?? would not a gun owner, or even a non-owner have some grounds for legal action? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 794866invasion of privacy? a lot of hurdles to jump in order to pursue legally but definately worth a shot. Only way to hurty these idiots is in their pocket books. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison "Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance-- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 802888 United States12/02/2009 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm what about the ones who have unregistered firearms LOL. Do you register yours? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 730810It depends on the state. In Alabama, for example, we don't have to register, unless we want a concealed carry permit. In Indiana, who knows? TANSTAAFL |
| Evil Twin
12/02/2009 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm what about the ones who have unregistered firearms LOL. Do you register yours? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 730810There is no gun registration in Indiana, or most other states. The only records that are supposed to be kept are the 4473 forms (background check questionnaire), by the retail establishment from which the gun was purchased. The state and federal governments are prevented by law, supposedly, from compiling those forms and data. What they want to publish is the list of concealed carry permit holders. |
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| Revbo
(OP) User ID: 538751 United States12/02/2009 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm what about the ones who have unregistered firearms LOL. Do you register yours? Quoting: Evil TwinThere is no gun registration in Indiana, or most other states. The only records that are supposed to be kept are the 4473 forms (background check questionnaire), by the retail establishment from which the gun was purchased. The state and federal governments are prevented by law, supposedly, from compiling those forms and data. What they want to publish is the list of concealed carry permit holders. Thanks for the clarification, ET. What a joke. Do they have any statistics on how many concealed carry permit holders commit violent crimes? I would imagine it would be pretty close to zero, excepting a rare domestic issue. Last Edited by Revbo on 12/02/2009 02:46 PM TANSTAAFL |
| Evil Twin
12/02/2009 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the clarification, ET. Quoting: RevboWhat a joke. Do they have any statistics on how many concealed carry permit holders commit violent crimes? I would imagine it would be pretty close to zero, excepting a rare domestic issue. I'm sure they do, if you dig for it. I looked it up for my state, Florida, last year, and it was a ridiculously low number like .02%. |
| BinaryNinja
User ID: 708196 United States12/02/2009 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 826146 United States12/02/2009 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First time you buy a gun in Indiana you need ID. Now if I buy a shotgun at Walmart,to hunt on my own property,no permit is needed. If I need my hand gun/shotgun repaired,going to a firing range (or any other reason I take it off my land) I will need a consealed permit to drive to the repair store. |
