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Why do YOU think YOU DON'T deserve HELL?

 
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"Since you think it is fiction, why do you care?"

>>Since you believe so strongly... why are you afraid to answer?
 Quoting: Sinanju2


Since you think you already have the answer, I will show you his words, not for you since you are unable to understand but for the others who might be able to learn something.





Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Mar 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Luk 10:15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.

Luk 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
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But since you think you know it all, you should also know this too

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
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So once he has judged and you are found guilty you shall be cast into hell.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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So many replies

And no one answers the question.

Can anyone read?

Or does everyone already know they DESERVE HELL?
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You'd just say actions don't matter anyway, no matter how good we are, so what's the point.
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So many replies

And no one answers the question.

Can anyone read?

Or does everyone already know they DESERVE HELL?

You'd just say actions don't matter anyway, no matter how good we are, so what's the point.
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If you know that why don't you know the point?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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I personally was not there when god or jesus spoke..

THEREFORE...

i am forced to take the words of other agenda ridden fallable humans as being 100% accurate...

i cannot accpet that...humans have always been decievers and fallable ever since their creation,,,,your garden of eden proves that..



So you can not accept that we are wicked, and sin.

So you are perfect then?

You are saying that You don't deserve hell because you are perfect.

Is that what you are saying?
 Quoting: Preacher Bob



IMHO...one only deserves what they get in the afterlife, by what theyve done in the material physical world..

I do not buy into the notion of religions that I must worship a certain spiritual entity...

I dont kill... I dont steal...I dont hurt others physically..etc....therefore I believe that any afterlife I shall be in, will be one where there wont be those evils present.

I will be more then happy to spend a etenrity with others who act and think the same as me...at least I wont have to here them tell me how I must live and worship

I hope your etenrity is full of people like yourself, who try and puch their own beleifs onto others, and then make them feel guilty or evil or bad, if they dont embrace YOUR BELEIFS.
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"Since you think it is fiction, why do you care?"

>>Since you believe so strongly... why are you afraid to answer?


Since you think you already have the answer, I will show you his words, not for you since you are unable to understand but for the others who might be able to learn something.





Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Mar 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Luk 10:15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.

Luk 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.



But since you think you know it all, you should also know this too

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;


So once he has judged and you are found guilty you shall be cast into hell.
 Quoting: Preacher Bob



>>I asked for JESUS quotes... if you cannot provide them, then your argument is moot. THOSE are not quotes from your imaginary figure... they are quotes from people who claimed to KNOW this imaginary figure... written down years and years after the imaginary figure supposedly died.

Show me the words of your JESUS.
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Since SO many of you think you are so good, I want to know why YOU think YOU should not be sent to hell.


What makes you think YOU are a GOOD person.


What argument do you think you can tell God that will force him to let you into heaven.


And if you don't want to got to heaven, Then why are you complaining about the alternative?


If you jump out of a speeding car, you open the hatch on a submarine, or a hatch in a space ship, and then complain when you get hurt.
 Quoting: Preacher Bob


well pussy bob.
some of us don't belive in your fake death cult bull shit.
i guess you should stick with the weak and the old, sence noone who has any smarts would beleave a lier such as yourself.

it's funny, you cults never see the truth, you never ever want people outside of your groups to be happy,
it's because you are unhappy and spend all your life hurting yourself and others, and you think it's ok.
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I look like mary
I talk like jesus
my boots are made of plastic
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I mean really Bob..thats what most of religion is based upon..

humans proclaiming there way is the only way...there religion is the only religion, there god is the only god..

YES BOB..

RELIGION = A POWER TRIP.
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YES BOB..

RELIGION = A POWER TRIP.
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I think actions do matter. But they cannot save us, or earn us passage to heaven. Salvation comes by Jesus alone. But, what's important is that our actions here determine our capacity to enjoy eternity with God. It's for our own benefit that we follow God's advice and instruction. He can already see eternity. From God's vantage point, he sees the best ways for us. It is foolish not to listen to someone who already knows the outcome of everything on earth, and into the eternal. Just plain foolish.

God says to me that if I live in a certain way, it will ultimately harm me in the eternal, and even now in this life. I am going to listen to that advice and act on it, because I take that very seriously.

People tend to live in the now, but there is a bigger picture out there. Forever is a long time. Not only does God let us know how to get through this life expediently, he also makes it clear that this life has a direct impact on the bigger picture that we cannot reverse once we are already dead. It's important information we have at our disposal.
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Since you think you already have the answer, I will show you his words, not for you since you are unable to understand but for the others who might be able to learn something.




>>I asked for JESUS quotes... if you cannot provide them, then your argument is moot. THOSE are not quotes from your imaginary figure... they are quotes from people who claimed to KNOW this imaginary figure... written down years and years after the imaginary figure supposedly died.

Show me the words of your JESUS.
 Quoting: Sinanju2


I told you you would not understand, you failed to read what was written, proving my point for me.

Thanks.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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I look like mary
I talk like jesus
my boots are made of plastic
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Just how do you talk like Jesus?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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I look like mary
I talk like jesus
my boots are made of plastic



Just how do you talk like Jesus?
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Out of his ass
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I look like mary
I talk like jesus
my boots are made of plastic



Just how do you talk like Jesus?
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Look past your diatribe of religion and your heavenly father will guide you beyond this realm.
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So many replies

And no one answers the question.

Can anyone read?

Or does everyone already know they DESERVE HELL?

You'd just say actions don't matter anyway, no matter how good we are, so what's the point.



If you know that why don't you know the point?
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I KNOW that's not how it works. You'll find out too someday.
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I look like mary
I talk like jesus
my boots are made of plastic



Just how do you talk like Jesus?


Look past your diatribe of religion and your heavenly father will guide you beyond this realm.
 Quoting: bed


So how does that make you Not Deserve Hell?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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well, i'm neither christian nor of the judaic blood, so how does yer hell apply to me? i'm one of the other people that were not involved in the fall in eden. i walk and talk with the creator daily. i do feel sorry for ye though. so much fear...
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hey Preacher Bob

dose your last name mean bend over boyfreind?
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So many replies

And no one answers the question.

Can anyone read?

Or does everyone already know they DESERVE HELL?

You'd just say actions don't matter anyway, no matter how good we are, so what's the point.



If you know that why don't you know the point?

I KNOW that's not how it works. You'll find out too someday.
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So how does it work.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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hey Preacher Bob

dose your last name mean bend over boyfreind?
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Are you looking for a DATE?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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"I told you you would not understand, you failed to read what was written, proving my point for me.

Thanks."

>>Oh, I understood completely. You failed because you provided quotes written down GENERATIONS after your imaginary friend supposedly died... when I asked for his words DIRECTLY.

You cannot provide said quotes... therefore you cannot PROVE any of what you attempt to push on us.

get back to us when you have actual quotes... not some bullshit created to control the masses.
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hey Preacher Bob

dose your last name mean bend over boyfreind?



Are you looking for a DATE?
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lols
na,
i can find a gay bar, i don't have to cruse glp or some church like you.
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I attended a church where there was a "preacher" that preached "fire and brimstone" and it drove me right out of the church. He condemned the people and his message left many feeling hopeless and confused because we could not "live up" to what God wants. He was heavy handed with the law and did not balance that with grace. His style was even condescending and superior at times.

I think hell should be taught in a way that educates a person on the reality and the details. Not in a way that is outright condemnation. That is what the Holy Spirit does. It is that spirit of God that convicts a man or woman's heart. We only deliver a message, we are not supposed to attach our hang ups and emotions to that message, or fight with people about it.

I now attend a church that has a TEACHER, not a preacher. Preachers demand and talk AT you. Teachers educate and talk WITH you.
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I look like mary
I talk like jesus
my boots are made of plastic



Just how do you talk like Jesus?


Look past your diatribe of religion and your heavenly father will guide you beyond this realm.


So how does that make you Not Deserve Hell?
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It isn't your place to judge me, not now, not ever. you my dear will have a lot to answer upon your head for your heart is empty of all but smearing of fowl blood.
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well, i'm neither christian nor of the judaic blood, so how does yer hell apply to me? i'm one of the other people that were not involved in the fall in eden. i walk and talk with the creator daily. i do feel sorry for ye though. so much fear...
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So you claim to be perfect, so since you will never die, how is that working out for you.

Do you really think you will not die?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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Since SO many of you think you are so good, I want to know why YOU think YOU should not be sent to hell.


What makes you think YOU are a GOOD person.


What argument do you think you can tell God that will force him to let you into heaven.


And if you don't want to got to heaven, Then why are you complaining about the alternative?


If you jump out of a speeding car, you open the hatch on a submarine, or a hatch in a space ship, and then complain when you get hurt.
 Quoting: Preacher Bob



What makes you think hell exists?
Pardon me for interrupting your premature celebration, but I thought it only fair to give you a sporting chance as you are new to this game.
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You should spend more time capturing the true nature with god instead of the beast which ladens your soul. be well.
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I look like mary
I talk like jesus
my boots are made of plastic



Just how do you talk like Jesus?


Look past your diatribe of religion and your heavenly father will guide you beyond this realm.


So how does that make you Not Deserve Hell?

It isn't your place to judge me, not now, not ever. you my dear will have a lot to answer upon your head for your heart is empty of all but smearing of fowl blood.
 Quoting: bed


Judge you, is it my fault that you are going to die?

If I say you can not live forever am i judging you?

I am merely stating a fact and the sooner you accept it the sooner you can prepare for it.


No different with hell. You think you will not go because you are some how exempt, or not Deserving, you are the criminal in prison saying he is innocent and doesn't deserve to be here.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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What makes you think hell exists?
 Quoting: The Boss


What makes you so sure it does not?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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10/10/2009 01:39 PM
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Re: Why do YOU think YOU DON'T deserve HELL?
well, i'm neither christian nor of the judaic blood, so how does yer hell apply to me? i'm one of the other people that were not involved in the fall in eden. i walk and talk with the creator daily. i do feel sorry for ye though. so much fear...



So you claim to be perfect, so since you will never die, how is that working out for you.

Do you really think you will not die?
 Quoting: Preacher Bob

i never claimed to be perfect. nor did i claim i would never die. not sure how ye got either of those ideas, but they are not true. i simply said yer religion does not apply to me. and it's working out great for me. life is good.





GLP