Why blame G-d for the condition of the world?

Love it! And so true! G-d :) bless you! :bump:

Why do you leave out the "o" in God?

I was wondering that too! Is God a "dirty" word?

It's origin is the Hebrew practice of not writing vowels when using the creators name. It's out of respect, and to not allow the written name of YHWH to be blasphemed.

If i'm not mistaking, he mentioned this earlier. Something about Hebrew and the non-use of vowels.

OP please correct me if I am mistaking...

Thank you. I often wondered about that.

Because "God" is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING.

Ah, there it is. Thanks!

NP...and G-d bless.

You are mistaken, G-d is only responsible for creating the universe, and 'us,' to have free will. That requires nothing further...or we wouldn't be free. We are the ones destroying what G-d made.

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You think we have free will?

How is that possible?

If you buy into the the whole "God knows all, sees all, is omnipotent and omniscient, and can see everything from the beginning of time, until the end of existence, he damn well knows everything you're going to do, before you do, or even think of it, and he knew it even before your parents were born.

If you were to do something unexpected by God, it would mean he's capable of making mistakes, and after that the whole God thing all kinda falls apart, and he joins everyone else on the unemployment line, and we're stuck interviewing new Deities.

All mankind has, at best is the illusion of free will.

That is unless you don't Believe in God; then everything is based on free will and chance.

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If the manufacturer could of simply walked over to the drunk and gently removed him prior to the cascading devestation, yes i would have a concern about that. And apparently, God has that power.

God required upon Itself to create a domain where God would not know what was to happen next. In order to do that, it had to be an illusionary domain of created 3D space with the parasitic harmonic called time, another illusion. (Time is caused by the angular radiation of the one infinitesimal singulatity being influenced kinetically, infinitely so that the one singularity APPEARS to be an infinite number of infinitesimal singularities. The illusion is created by this "moving upon the waters")

For God to be true to the definition of omnipresent, God had to also be not-infinite, that's us. God infiltrates and communes with the finite entities (us) to become imperfect, greater than just infinite but also to be finite.

We're being used. It's not all about you, but at the same time, it's all about you. You need to have happen whatever happens because it's unique. It'll take forever and untold trillions of civilizations each with trillions of entities to have every variable and variation of finite entities to happen. All for God to be greater than infinite.

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It would'nt be the car makers fault it would be gods!he invented the concept of alcohol and decided how it would work on the human body,and he's the one that blessed us with a store on every corner that sells this tasty useful beverage.

I don't blame God at all.

He created us with the potential to reach Him yet many of us have thrown that away, probably unknowingly...I'm believing in Karma more and more....

Amen

the only people to blame are tptb for the world being the way it is

+1


I think one of the biggest problems we have is that we are so out of touch that we don't even know God, we can't discern between God and the light of Lucifer pretending to be God.

Absolutely true. Thanks...well put. By grace...we will know G-d. Sounds like you know. For anyone who doesn't, all you have to do is ask G-d to show you...and free yourself enough to see, and all will be revealed.

That's an interesting theory, but I have to ask one question;

"why would God require anything?"

Again, if the creator is indeed all knowing, the alpha and omega if you will, he has no need to "require" anything. He knows. It's his duty to know; it's in his job description. And I do apologize; I don't intentionally mean to be pejorative when I say "he". I was just too lazy to type she/he. (but obviously not so lazy since I had to write this disclaimer)

The idea that God "requires" something kinda blows the whole "all powerful, all knowing" thing, and thus moves his role in the multi-verse from supreme being, to really, really talented magician who could really pack 'em in, in Vegas.

Again, a nice theory, but you're trying to give God, one who by his very nature and definition has no parameters, parameters to make your theory work. Interesting, but I'm not buyin' it.

You have it all wrong. There is no such thing as death. We are spiritual beings in a physical body. Only the physical body "dies" per se. The spiritual being is immortal and eternal. When and how the physical body "dies" is predetermined by our own Higher Self (God if you like), before we're even born. But, since you obviously beLIEve in the "Biblical" god, here's my answer to your question.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create EVIL: I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

OP. I know your not as stupid as your question seems to be.

Do you believe G_d created the world?

Do you believe that G_d is in control of the world?


Of course you do. So why is G_d not responsible for his creation??? It is all in G_d's Plan, right???

Everything happens for a reason according to people like you, right????

If there is a G_d then he created the world and is in control of it, right???? Otherwise, G_d is not G-d, right???

G_d has the power to prevent suffering and yet does nothing. Thousands of innocent children died today from starvation and yet G_d did not move a muscle.

Wake up from your delusion OP. That is not a G_d worth believing in my friend. And, you know it.

Read the book "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley. He addresses the question "Is there a Supreme Being?" His explanation is the very best I've ever come across. Here it is:

“Every spiritual being (unit of awareness) seems to be completely unique and independent. Each appears to possess its own distinct viewpoint, which cannot entirely be duplicated by any other unit of awareness. This uniqueness and individuality of viewpoint appear to be the very essence and purpose of spiritual existence. We may see some evidence of this in the fact that when individuals are crushed into a sameness, they become unhappier and worse off; their perceptions deteriorate and they are less creative. When true uniqueness and individuality are restored to people, they regain their vitality and creativity. It appears that every unit of awareness is capable of infinite creation because creation by a spiritual being is accomplished by the act of thought or imagination. If you imagine there is a white cat on top of this book, you have created a white cat, even if it only exists for you. Such creations, when shared and agreed to by others, eventually give rise to universes that can be shared and experienced by others. This seems to be how spiritual beings create universes of their own and in cooperation with others, and why there exists evidence in modern physics that our universe appears to be ultimately based on thought. …… Every unit of awareness is the source of its own infinity because thought and imagination have no bounds; any amount of space, time or matter may be imagined by any spiritual being and ultimately agreed to and shared by other spiritual beings. Where did all these countless units of awareness come from? Did there exist at one time only a single unit of awareness from which all others originated? The many similarities between all spiritual beings make it appear so. That original unit of awareness would be what is normally called a Supreme Being, which we might also call the Primary Being. It appears that individual spiritual beings are actually units of awareness of a Primary, or Supreme Being, yet each unit is possessed of its own self-awareness, personality, free will, independent thought, and infinite creativity. …….. :how could a Supreme Being be so foolish? Why would it create awareness units that were self-aware? ……. why did a Supreme Being not do the sensible thing and simply retain its own single undivided viewpoint? Self-awareness is apparently the quality which gives spiritual beings the capacity for thought and imagination, and hence to be a source of infinity and creation. ……. Theoretically, of course, a Supreme Being was already capable of creating an infinity and of creating anything within it, but only from its own single viewpoint. A Supreme Being could only be the source of one infinity: its own. If a Supreme Being wanted to experience another infinity, it had to first create another unique self-aware unit of awareness like itself. So, it apparently did just that. But it did not satisfy itself with just one more unit of awareness: it appears to have put out an uncountable number of them so that it could enjoy an almost infinite number of infinities and realities. This suggests that the potential scope of a Supreme Being extends far beyond the boundaries of this one small universe – it encompasses trillions of potential infinites and universes. …… It is hard to imagine that a Supreme Being would condemn its own units of awareness, no matter how small and entrapped they have become, and no matter how insanely and destructively some of them behave as a result.”

Then why thank God for anything either?

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How many innocent children have to die of starvation and preventable disease every single friggin' day to make "freewill" worth it to you?

What kind of G_d makes that the price of freewill???? I'll answer that one for you -- only the most Vain and Evil type of G_d you could ever imagine.

Can you even conceive of how much suffering and needless death could be prevented if your G_d could get over his self-centered idea of freewill?????????????

G_d gave you a brain. Think about it.

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but the car manufacturer is not one and the same with the physical car. Where as the world, universe and even that car you drive is one and the same with god and hence can be enacted upon by divine intervention.

I don't blame anyone. We were given free will. We have the power to manifest our destiny.

I'll do my best to answer your question honestly, but if you want me to prove G-d, sorry I can't. That's why it's called faith...maybe you've heard of it?

uh.. it's like egyptian n' stuff.