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After years of trying every kind of remedy - from OTC to prescription to alternative/natural treatments, I've finally been prescribed a functional medicine.

If you suffer from Eczema then you know what it is like when a flare-up makes you go bonkers.

My doctor prescribed the following:

Halobetasol Propionate Cream, 0.05%

Rx only and comes in a 50g tube

Use a pea sized drop once or twice a day.
10 days later my breakout areas are gone.
Not only gone, but the skin looks perfectly healthy & normal again. No more scratching - no more irritation.


If you or someone you care about suffers from the debil known as Eczema - you have got to give this stuff a try.
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I do know somebody with it and will let them know, thanks.
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I do know somebody with it and will let them know, thanks.
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They're going to fall out when they see what this stuff does. My patches were so bad I'd scratch them in my sleep and wake up with blood running down my arm. It has been like that for more than 20 years. 10 days of this stuff and BOOM - it's GONE.
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I have chronic Eczema on the skin around my eyes and eyelids, I use steroid cream regularly which going through the eyelids will most likely cause Cataracts!! I also use cancer causing shit called Protopic.........NASTY!!

Can this stuff be used around the eyes??
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I do know somebody with it and will let them know, thanks.



They're going to fall out when they see what this stuff does. My patches were so bad I'd scratch them in my sleep and wake up with blood running down my arm. It has been like that for more than 20 years. 10 days of this stuff and BOOM - it's GONE.
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Thats great, the guy I work with has it and in the winter time it gets bad.
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try some emu oil capsules
(seriously)

this stuff really works

The cream is also recommended for any eczema type rashes
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try some emu oil capsules
(seriously)

this stuff really works

The cream is also recommended for any eczema type rashes
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+1
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I have chronic Eczema on the skin around my eyes and eyelids, I use steroid cream regularly which going through the eyelids will most likely cause Cataracts!! I also use cancer causing shit called Protopic.........NASTY!!

Can this stuff be used around the eyes??
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I don't know. That's something a doctor should be able to answer.
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try some emu oil capsules
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this stuff really works

The cream is also recommended for any eczema type rashes



+1
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I tried Emu oil... and man does that shit stink! Alas, it did nothing to help. Like I said, I've pretty much tried everything under the sun. A native Alaskan shaman even gave me beaver tail oil! rofl.
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Do some internal cleansing like bowel cleanses. Your toxins are trying to get out.
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The common Burdock which is regarded as a weed.
The top-most leaves(a good handful) being boiled down in a handful of hog,or goose lard, (fresh from a butcher) being boiled until the leaves ar a dark brown crisp.
The strained juice to be used on itchy, un-broken skin.
An old quack cure of my mother.
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Do some internal cleansing like bowel cleanses. Your toxins are trying to get out.
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yea...you got to poop more. get that poop out.
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try some emu oil capsules
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this stuff really works

The cream is also recommended for any eczema type rashes



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I tried Emu oil... and man does that shit stink! Alas, it did nothing to help. Like I said, I've pretty much tried everything under the sun. A native Alaskan shaman even gave me beaver tail oil! rofl.
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Have you tried slippery elm bark?
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Oral vitamin D supplements may prevent eczema.
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After years of trying every kind of remedy - from OTC to prescription to alternative/natural treatments, I've finally been prescribed a functional medicine.

If you suffer from Eczema then you know what it is like when a flare-up makes you go bonkers.

My doctor prescribed the following:

Halobetasol Propionate Cream, 0.05%

Rx only and comes in a 50g tube

Use a pea sized drop once or twice a day.
10 days later my breakout areas are gone.
Not only gone, but the skin looks perfectly healthy & normal again. No more scratching - no more irritation.


If you or someone you care about suffers from the debil known as Eczema - you have got to give this stuff a try.
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Cortozone cream works for me- over the counter.
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Have you tried slippery elm bark?
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Yep
And because I live so far north I also take vitamin D every day as it is supposed to help replace the D we far northerners don't get during the dark months.

I've done cleanses twice a year for the last decade. (which are so good for your health, btw).
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07/10/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Leslie:

Most eczema, not all, are often a result of a fungus or mycobacterium that exists along the skin or some minute amounts leading to eczema. The condition is often metabolic acidosis which initiates the eczema, but at the same time the ACV have certain properties which may raise the immune system through its malic acid and mineral content found in the ACV. For example the malic acid is converted into malates which is used by the Krebs cycle giving more energy to the cells. If the energy to the cells is increased, the immunity is increased in the long term. The problem about ACV is it's acid content which does kill the fungus and mycobacterium by the actions of malates or organic components that leads to longer term alkalization. But since the body has insufficient bicarbonates to neutralize the acidity, the mycobacterium may cause greater growth when the body is temporarily acid in the short term, and hence the eczema. This eczema is the result of temporary metabolic acidosis.

There is a way to prevent side effects from ACV use by what chemist use to buffer the acidity to make it more alkaline in many consumer products and medicine we used. One of the simplest buffer is the baking soda, which raises the pH of the Apple Cider vinegar to a close 7 or 7.5 pH, which is closer to biologically active pH that doesn't support short term mycobacterium growth. Mycobacterium, fungus, and other usually flourishes in a more acidic pH. Therefore, this remedy was resolved mostly by taking 2 tablespoons of Apple Cider vinegar plus at least 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 or preferably 1 glass of water. Taken usually three times a day. However, if the conditions of eczema is present, usually I will raise the baking soda remedy from 1/4 teaspoon to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda plus 2 tablespoons of ACV in 1 full glass of water taken at least twice a day instead.

However, I am not dealing with the fundamentals here. I have a bad history of eczema myself. In an attempt to understand the basic cause of eczema just for me I decided to take an experiment with a carbicarb remedy. The carbicarb remedy used by me is 1/4 teaspoon of sodium carbonate (washing soda...a precursor of baking soda) plus 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) in one full glass of water taken twice or three times a day will stop the eczema within a matter of an hour at most. For me it stopped within a couple of minutes. Mycobacterium, fungs and bacterium won't generally grow whenever the body's pH is raised to an alkaline level. It is this reason why the Ocean's water is so sterile: salinity and alkalinity. The alkalinity of Ocean's water is 8.

As to where ACV comes in is that the malic acid raises the energy level of cells raising the immunity of the cells at the same time - the cells simply have more energy to fend off invading organisms. There may be other elements found in ACV, such as acetate, which has limited antifungal.

The problem about temporary eczema may go away with ACV use, but in some cases eczema may be persistent too. The issue appears that some people may have limited ability to neutralize the acidity from the ACV using the body's available bicarbonates to neutralized them and hence why baking soda was added to put less pressure on the body to come up with the bicarbonate currency to make it biologically compatible with the body's pH of 7.35. So some cases eczema may persists and some may get better, but if baking soda was added immediately before use, eczema wouldn't flare up, generally speaking.

Am I missing any other factors on eczema besides alkalization and immunity issues? One other additional fact is most people's diet, with industrialized farming practices, has caused humans, cats, dogs, cows, chickens, and pigs to have low level of omega 3. Low level of omega 3 didn't happen in humans first. It happened in farm animals. Chickens source of food were originally high in omega 3, if raise in the wild, but with modern methods, the omega 6 to omega 3 has risen lowering greatly omega 3. This happens in cows in U.S. as farming practices changed from grass fed to grain fed to economize. When we do that omega 3 goes precipitously down.

Omega 3 is responsible for immune conditions and anti-inflammatory properties and reduction in eczema. So much of the problems in the benefits of raw food of Pottinger Cats, and the eating of animal fats from Weston A. Price is useless since the animals we eat today (unlike Weaton A. Price's time) is that the omega 3 has droped precipitiously. So what we have now in U.S. is an Omega 6 to Omega 3 of 20: 1 instead of an ideal 4:1 or 1: 1 omega 3 to omega 6 ratios. Currently the country that has the highest known omega 3 is Japan at 4: 1 or Omega 6 to Omega 3. Fish oil is the supplements I would very likely take for my eczema besides just the baking soda be added to the apple cider vinegar.

However in a more severe cases of eczema I used a stronger alkalization method, which is commonly called the carbicarb remedy as mentioned already, which causes the eczema to go away in a matter of hours. As a hint to further reduction the use of dechlorinator of sodium thiosulfate added to drinking water may further help (chlorines and fluorine are pro-inflammatory) while sodium thiosulfate will at least neutralize the chlorine. A simpler way to remove chlorine is to add a couple of drops of 3% H2O2 per glass of water, such as 2-3 drops, which will neutralize the chlorine.

If there is anything i forget about the other cause of eczema, its that certain foods, such as wheat products, cheese tomatoes, aspartame, potatoes, peanuts, sugar, fruit juices (contains fructose), yeast product, peppermint in toothpastes, and other fermented products are some of the common causes of eczema due to the mycotoxin and fungus content found in these products. Interestingly the reason why antibiotics causes eczema is it is acid forming, raises free heavy metals, and has mycotoxins and fungus. Antibiotics is usually made from fungus, and hence it's no surprise that it causes eczema too. Meats now cause eczema because it raises the body's omega 6 as omega 3 is now reducing. So

I greatly doubt if unethical industrialized farming practices using GMO cows, pigs, chickens raised on grains, cannibalism and steroids injection is going to have much positive impact on practitioners of raw food diet, paleolithic diet, Atkins diet, eat right for your blood type diet, or any other similar diets fads if the foods we are now eating are toxic. The issue that pervades any dietary practice is to avoid bad industrialized farming practices (U.S. may be the worse), which is a lot simpler theory I proposed than the other guru diet fads. Much of my eczema comes from bad farming practices by corporate world. Now we have babies, dogs and cats to worry about because they eat from the same source of food which comes from processed foods and using the same bad farming practices. Perhaps this is where some of the eczema is coming from.

Ted"
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If my experience is typical, that medicine will eventually stop working for you.

The only thing that keeps mine at bay is a combination of Omega-3 and cod liver oil supplements.

Stumbled on the combination quite by accident - I started taking the Omega-3 to get my cholesterol under control, and noticed that my flare-ups were less severe. I mentioned that to an elderly lady in WV, who told me to take cod liver oil too - that does the trick!

If I run out of either the eczema comes back.

Can't give you the IUs I'm taking, but I take 4 ResQ-1250 gelcaps and 4 Nature's Pride or GNC cod liver oil gelcaps every day at breakfast.
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I have a spot on the top of my foot that started dime size over a year ago and now takes up half the top of my foot!

I also had eczema on 4 fingers before the foot and totally eliminated all of the small spots with zinc cream and keeping covered with band aides.

With foot I've tried almost everything. encluding stinky emu oil LOL Right now coconut oil (smells good) LOL and cotton gauze seems to be helping. Ice is amazing to stop itching. Just should not leave on longer than 15 min.

Going to google Halobetasol Propionate Cream. First time I have heard of this... thanks OP hf
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Have you tried Echinacea topically and as a tea?
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If my experience is typical, that medicine will eventually stop working for you.

The only thing that keeps mine at bay is a combination of Omega-3 and cod liver oil supplements.

Stumbled on the combination quite by accident - I started taking the Omega-3 to get my cholesterol under control, and noticed that my flare-ups were less severe. I mentioned that to an elderly lady in WV, who told me to take cod liver oil too - that does the trick!

If I run out of either the eczema comes back.

Can't give you the IUs I'm taking, but I take 4 ResQ-1250 gelcaps and 4 Nature's Pride or GNC cod liver oil gelcaps every day at breakfast.
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IMO eczema can't be cured just kept under control. And I also think the meds may eventually stop working.

Not long after my hands returned to normal and absolutely NO signs of eczema on them it started on my foot. What I used on my hands to get rid of it did not work for my foot!

Good tips on the oils.... thanks! I've heard other people say this about Omega-3 but hadn't heard about cod liver oil being good for keeping eczema at bay.. will give it a try.
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I have had eczema all my life

I have used steroid creams, help sometimes but dangerous to your health. I've had it so bad I've had to take oral steroids so i can sleep, the itching was so bad.

I have tried all the oils, including Emu, raw Aloe etc, to little effect.

Vitamin creams, and large doses etc have no effect.

The one thing that has miraculously gotten rid of my eczema is Apple Cider Vinegar, I use the Braggs type. I can go to bed with a patch or two at night, itchy as all hell, take some ACV before I go to bed, and by morning the itchiness is gone and the site looks to be 50% healed.

The stuff doesn't taste that bad for the effects it has on healing your skin,

Since it has cleared up my the area around my eyes, buttocks, back of my legs, feet, back (basically areas that sweat) I have only had an rare re-occurrences. And when I do, 3-4 days of ACV and its gone.

I don't sell the stuff, don't work for them, don't own stock, just sharing what works for my once severe eczema.

Also now when i travel somewhere where the weather is going to be different, I used to load up on steroid creams, now i just pack some ACV
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After years of trying every kind of remedy - from OTC to prescription to alternative/natural treatments, I've finally been prescribed a functional medicine.

If you suffer from Eczema then you know what it is like when a flare-up makes you go bonkers.

My doctor prescribed the following:

Halobetasol Propionate Cream, 0.05%

Rx only and comes in a 50g tube

Use a pea sized drop once or twice a day.
10 days later my breakout areas are gone.
Not only gone, but the skin looks perfectly healthy & normal again. No more scratching - no more irritation.


If you or someone you care about suffers from the debil known as Eczema - you have got to give this stuff a try.
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A bit of info on Halobetasol propionate cream:

HALOBETASOL PROPIONATE CREAM, 0.05% contains halobetasol propionate, a synthetic corticosteroid for topical dermatological use. The corticosteroids constitute a class of primarily synthetic steroids used topically as an anti-inflammatory and antipruritic agent.

Halobetasol propionate cream is a super-high potency corticosteroid indicated for the relief of the inflammatory and pruritic manifestations of corticosteroid-responsive dermatoses. Treatment beyond two consecutive weeks is not recommended, and the total dosage should not exceed 50 g/week because of the potential for the drug to suppress the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis. Use in children under 12 years of age is not recommended.

As with other highly active corticosteroids, therapy should be discontinued when control has been achieved. If no improvement is seen within 2 weeks, reassessment of the diagnosis may be necessary.
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I have had eczema all my life

I have used steroid creams, help sometimes but dangerous to your health. I've had it so bad I've had to take oral steroids so i can sleep, the itching was so bad.

I have tried all the oils, including Emu, raw Aloe etc, to little effect.

Vitamin creams, and large doses etc have no effect.

The one thing that has miraculously gotten rid of my eczema is Apple Cider Vinegar, I use the Braggs type. I can go to bed with a patch or two at night, itchy as all hell, take some ACV before I go to bed, and by morning the itchiness is gone and the site looks to be 50% healed.

The stuff doesn't taste that bad for the effects it has on healing your skin,

Since it has cleared up my the area around my eyes, buttocks, back of my legs, feet, back (basically areas that sweat) I have only had an rare re-occurrences. And when I do, 3-4 days of ACV and its gone.

I don't sell the stuff, don't work for them, don't own stock, just sharing what works for my once severe eczema.

Also now when i travel somewhere where the weather is going to be different, I used to load up on steroid creams, now i just pack some ACV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743843



That's amazing!

I'm going to try this. I've tried ACV but just couldn't get it down because of the taste. Do you have any ideas how to mix it in something to hide the taste? My grandmother never missed a day of taking apple cider vinegar. : )
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I'm with the cod liver oil people. It's good for skin teeth and bones with D and omegas all in one. You could also go with chlorella and spirulina.

I know that eczema can be hard to overcome. Sometimes it is misdiagnosed atually being dermatitis which is an fungus.
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I was searching for Florasone cream because I had read it can reduce itching from eczema and just came across this newsletter.

Soothing products such as Florasone (Cardiospermum) for rashes/itching and calendula products for raw skin can also be useful.

Excerpt:
The most important aspect of eczema treatment is addressing the immune system imbalance that underlies the skin inflammation.

This can be accomplished in a number of ways depending on the type of practitioner and the modalities he or she provides. Constitutional treatment with homeopathy and/or Chinese medicine (herbs and acupuncture) is essential to strengthen and balance the body's immune function. A good supplement program is also important. Omega 3 fats in adequate doses are a mainstay. The therapeutic dose of cod liver oil is 1 tsp per 25 lbs body weight or at least 450 mg of DHA in fish oil capsules. Vitamins A and D should be added if children are not taking cod liver oil (10,000 IU of A and 400 IU of D from a fish oil source). Other supplements to support digestive function will fortify the immune system, especially in children with leaky gut and impaired intestinal integrity. Supplements may include digestive enzymes, probiotics, and glutamine to support the intestinal lining.

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re - itching, sleeping, bleeding

- Long time ago - had very bad contact dermatitis -

had to cut nails all the way down and wear tube socks on my arms and hands. Even tape them around the wrists so I wouldn't take them off in the night.
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T-Cut for the skin!
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My dermatologist gave me fluticasone propionate cream, 0.05% (a/k/a cutivate cream), works like a charm! Plus, it's one of those $5 prescriptions.

I had it around my lips and eyelids at different times and after using it for about two days it went away and never came back.





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