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Somali gangs murder & terrorize Minneapolis

 
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From: Newmax.
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Monday, July 20, 2009 4:40 AM

MINNEAPOLIS -- Ahmednur Ali's family fled the chaos and violence of their East African homeland Somalia in the 1990s, eventually making their way to Minnesota like thousands of their compatriots.


Although many of the estimated 32,000 Somalis who settled in the state have struggled to adapt, Ali flourished, blazing a path to Minneapolis' Augsburg College on a soccer scholarship by age 20. He studied political science and aspired to a political career modeled on President Barack Obama's.


He was shot and killed in September outside a busy community center where he worked part-time as a youth counselor, and prosecutors said the 16-year-old accused of killing him was part of a gang.


Ali was one of seven Minneapolis-area Somali men killed over a 10-month period, and authorities believe all were killed by fellow Somalis. Police say it's too simple to tie all the killings to Somali gangs, which have lured hundreds of young community members to their ranks in recent years.


Those in the insular community willing to speak out, however, disagree.


"It was all gang activity, totally, 100 percent," said Shukri Adan, a former Somali community organizer who estimated in a 2007 report for the city that between 400 and 500 young Somalis were active in gangs. "The police don't want to say that but everybody else knows that."


Despite anger and despair over the killings in Minnesota's Somali community — the nation's largest — police and prosecutors have struggled to catch and try the killers. Few witnesses have stepped forward because of a fear of reprisal and deep-rooted distrust of authority. More than half of Minnesota's Somalis are living in poverty, according to state statistics, and many complain that authorities are biased against Somalis because of their Islamic faith.


Last month, prosecutors dropped the murder charge against the teenage boy in Ali's case after one witness backed out and another apparently fled the state.


Gangs like the Somali Hot Boyz, the Somali Mafia and Madhibaan with Attitude have grown more active in recent years, said Jeanine Brudenell, the Minneapolis Police Department's Somali liaison officer.


The recent spate of killings started in December 2007, when two Somali men, ages 27 and 25, were found shot to death at a south Minneapolis home. No arrests have been made in that case.


They culminated last September, when a man was fatally shot outside of the Village Market Mall, a cluster of Somali-owned businesses and a popular destination for local Somalis. Investigators believe the shooter was retaliating for the death of his cousin, one of the other slain Somalis. The mall shooting was the only of the seven slayings for which anyone was convicted _ 23-year-old Hassan Mohamed Abdillahi.


Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman said he hoped the conviction would show local Somalis that the law is on their side, and spark new progress in closing the other cases. "We have a job to do to convince people they can trust us," he said.


A gang expert in California said economic and social factors are more likely to blame for the spike in gang activity than any spillover of violence from war-ravaged Somalia.


"When there's unemployment and poverty and lack of external support, there's gangs," said Jorja Leap, a social welfare professor at the University of California Los Angeles and former gang adviser to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.


Investigators in a separate criminal investigation have said they've also had trouble penetrating Minnesota's Somali community. The FBI is looking into the disappearance in recent years of up to 20 young Somali men, mostly from Minneapolis, believed to have been recruited into Islamist terror groups back in Somalia.


The first sign of progress in that investigation came this week with the indictment on terrorism charges of two young Somali men, at least one of whom is accused of traveling to Somalia to fight.


Elsewhere in the U.S. and Canada, police and community officials have reported an increase in Somali gang activity.


In and around Edmonton, Alberta, six young Somali men have been slain in the last six months. The leader of a small Somali outreach group there said the deaths are seen as evidence of a growing gang problem, and that they've led to better cooperation between Somalis and police.


"It seems like the community now is getting to the point where we are trying to give information to the police, and they are sharing information with us," said Mohamednur Mardowe, who heads the Brotherhood Community Support Service Association.


Police in Columbus, Ohio, which has the second largest U.S. population of Somalis, have also seen growing evidence of Somali gangs, said Sgt. Chantay Boxill.


Ahmednur Ali's sister, Hindia Ali, said she hopes her fellow Somalis will stand up against the violence.


"I don't think any Somali person wants killing to continue," she said. "We all want this violence to stop."
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Re: Somali gangs murder & terrorize Minneapolis
The gangs form here because society is weakened by the liberal left. They know they won't be prosecuted and if they are it will be a soft sentence.
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The gangs form here because society is weakened by the liberal left. They know they won't be prosecuted and if they are it will be a soft sentence.
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Fruits of fake diversity, before long this will lead to collapse of western civization.
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No more africans allowed please.
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No more africans allowed please.
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I am an african living in Europe and its damm fine here!!
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So? Let them kill themselves, saves tax payers money, jails are emptier and more food for us. Don't need immigration officials anymore they will be obsolete. Just allow them in and shoot themselves
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They are really bad in minnesota. I see these douchebags every day and want them all gone
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So? Let them kill themselves, saves tax payers money, jails are emptier and more food for us. Don't need immigration officials anymore they will be obsolete. Just allow them in and shoot themselves
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The problem is that they commit a great deal of rapes...against those that are NOT Somali. It is a serious problem.
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The very same things are happening in Columbus, Ohio too!
Criminal activity can be confirmed by the Columbus Police Dept. We know of many rapes and robberies. Why did they do this to two former great cities to live in?
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The very same things are happening in Columbus, Ohio too!
Criminal activity can be confirmed by the Columbus Police Dept. We know of many rapes and robberies. Why did they do this to two former great cities to live in?
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Yeah, they turned Columbus into scum central.
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police and prosecutors have struggled to catch and try the killers. Few witnesses have stepped forward because of a fear of reprisal and deep-rooted distrust of authority. More than half of Minnesota's Somalis are living in poverty, according to state statistics, and many complain that authorities are biased against Somalis because of their Islamic faith.

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cry me a fucking river

remind me again what these savage animals are doing living amongst humans
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The very same things are happening in Columbus, Ohio too!
Criminal activity can be confirmed by the Columbus Police Dept. We know of many rapes and robberies. Why did they do this to two former great cities to live in?


Yeah, they turned Columbus into scum central.
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It was POS Central before so technically that's an improvement.
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Don't you think that this is what tptb want to happen by allowing all these immigrants into the states? tptb want chaos and the collapse of society. Idol1 bump
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Stop ALL immigration for 10 years!

Let those that LEGALLY entered the country adapt, give the Americans in the communities where the federal government pushed these people upon them have time to try and get along with them.

It appears the government is trying to incite race wars by pushing the Vietnamese on those of viking and anglo saxon descent and now the Somalis.
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I am an african and I like Amsterdam.

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No more africans allowed please.



I am an african living in Europe and its damm fine here!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 341042


Of course. Isn't the white world better? You KNOW it is. Appreciate and don't try to change it, because it won't be fine anymore. After WWI and WWII they know how to appreciate the nice tings, because things were so fucking horrible for sooo long.
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Human beings enjoy killing.

End of story.
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BTW, Somalia are pigs, no matter where they go, thye shouldn't be allowed anywhere because they lack any sense of civility, and have always been that way.

But Europeans like Africans. I do too. It's "African" Americans with enormous issues and self pity that no one likes very much. The whining is too much.
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I am an african living in Europe and its damm fine here!!


Of course. Isn't the white world better? You KNOW it is. Appreciate and don't try to change it, because it won't be fine anymore. After WWI and WWII they know how to appreciate the nice tings, because things were so fucking horrible for sooo long.
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Yeah but you white folks have a bad history..
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Re: Somali gangs murder & terrorize Minneapolis
The gangs form here because society is weakened by the liberal left. They know they won't be prosecuted and if they are it will be a soft sentence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729086

bsflag For blaming everything on the left. If you hadn't noticed gangs have been getting a hold through for decades through left and right control. Don't over-simplify everything
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AMERICA: the worlds melting pot ? , more like the dumpster of the worlds garbage
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Gangs like the Somali Hot Boyz, the Somali Mafia and Madhibaan with Attitude have grown more active in recent years, said Jeanine Brudenell, the Minneapolis Police Department's Somali liaison officer.
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I left Minneapolis in 2001 and I have never looked back. You can keep it, my home town, I don't want any part of it.

I was living across the street from a 7 story apt building full of Somalis for the last 5 years I was there. It was sort of interesting at first. It got less so as time went on.

(edited out my usual rant here)

The museums are still really really good though. I would go back for them, and the State Fair.
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Are the somalis muslims in america?
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The gangs form here because society is weakened by the liberal left. They know they won't be prosecuted and if they are it will be a soft sentence.
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My God you are a retarded piece of shit. Society is weakened by lying whiney phoney so called conservative family values as long as it's my family brain damaged inbred assholes like you.
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same thing happened when the polish,italians, and germans came to this country. oh yeah, who could forget the irish.

anywho, they just blended in better.
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

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Most of them are savage illiterate animals, and they must be stopped. I have witnessed somalians doing uncivil things, and we have to do something about them before they start harming the white community.
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I left Minneapolis in 2001 and I have never looked back. You can keep it, my home town, I don't want any part of it.

I was living across the street from a 7 story apt building full of Somalis for the last 5 years I was there. It was sort of interesting at first. It got less so as time went on.

(edited out my usual rant here)

The museums are still really really good though. I would go back for them, and the State Fair.
 Quoting: mercury2



I agree, and we left 2 1/2 years ago, hate even going back to visit family. Although, like you say, it does have some finer things to offer, like Museums, Zoos, Fairs, etc, it really isn't worth it to live there.

Are the somalis muslims in america?
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For the most part, yes.

There are the exceptions, but they are very few and far between, and then those Somali's who are of different faiths (Christian, animists, etc) are still fast becoming victims at the hands of Muslims (as the religion is making a HUGE conversion impact here in the states...once a Muslim, no changing faiths). Generally, Somali's of other faiths are ostracized by ALL...American's tend to think them automatically Muslims, other Somali's want to kill them because they aren't Muslim, racial tensions between Hispanics and Somali's etc...so for example, Christian Somali's will be found isolated, chastised, ostracized, and very much alone, unless someone goes out of their way to invite them in, and then, the Somali's will keep at arms length because they are very distrustful by nature.
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same thing happened when the polish,italians, and germans came to this country. oh yeah, who could forget the irish.

anywho, they just blended in better.
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The reason all those immigrants got assimilated, besides the fact that they wanted to, and that they shared more cultural background with America to begin with, was that from 1924 to 1965 the immigration door was closed, hardly anyone was allowed into the USA, giving time for those newcomers that were already here to adjust, assimilate, and learn English. They WANTED to be Americans.

We need another long period with little to no immigration, starting NOW.
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same thing happened when the polish,italians, and germans came to this country. oh yeah, who could forget the irish.

anywho, they just blended in better.

The reason all those immigrants got assimilated, besides the fact that they wanted to, and that they shared more cultural background with America to begin with, was that from 1924 to 1965 the immigration door was closed, hardly anyone was allowed into the USA, giving time for those newcomers that were already here to adjust, assimilate, and learn English. They WANTED to be Americans.

We need another long period with little to no immigration, starting NOW.
 Quoting: mercury2


oh i totally agree. with everything. look at what is going on in europe these days.
the sad thing is, people with family still in europe, can no longer bring their relatives into this country, of which we are primarily founded on, thank Bush for that. but we get people from other countries that do not have a clue, nor will they ever understand our way of life, do NOT want to assimilate, and are a drain on the economy and other resources.

when the shit hits the fan, and it will, the silent majority is going to speak up, violently
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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these somali gangs are weak
there over 50 members who most scariest weapon is machete
according to abc news white lead the way in gang membership
white gangs such as
almighty gaylords - 150,000
simon city royals - 120,000
southside popes - 120,000
northside popes - 120,000
insnae popes - 115,000
goth low riders - 120,000
armanian power - 100,000
peni punks - 100,000
dog patch winos - 200,000
lords of lawndale - 250,000
venice hoodlums - 250,000
suicidal tendencies - 250,000
westside russians - 200,000
okies - 300,000
this just of tip of iceberg
these somali shitstains are hardley a threat





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